Tatar - a raw meat dish

GordonBleu:

Steak Tartare is NOT cooked, not "cooked" in any way. It's raw beef, with a raw egg yolk, a mashed salty anchovy, minced onion, powdered dry paprika, and maybe a bit of mustard. It's delicious on a bit of bread, with icy-cold wodka to accompany. The usual garnishes are chopped boiled egg, or capers, but these are also optional.

Tommy	Mar 10, 08, 13:58 / #
Rakky wrote: I am wondering about the quality of the pork in Poland. What are most of your livestock animals fed? Are they pretty much free-range, or are they kept in pens, like most American livestock, where they are forced to eat an unnatural diet of mostly corn? The quality of meat isn`t so bad in Poland if Poles eat tatar - a dish made with raw meat. I think the recipe advises beef but pork seems OK too. See a few photos and read some expert explanation: polandsite.proboards104.com/index.cgi?board=polishfood&action=d isplay&thread=19

osiolThreads: 59 Posts: 4,714 Joined: Jul 25, 07	Mar 10, 08, 14:11 / #
Perhaps originally the recipe depended on the heat generated by the horse (or by the rider - something spicy last night?) Looks a bit grim to me.

LukaszThreads: 73 Posts: 2,396 Joined: Sep 1, 07	Edited by: Lukasz Mar 10, 08, 14:26 / #
osiol wrote: Perhaps originally the recipe depended on the heat generated by the horse (or by the rider - something spicy last night?) It was how Tatars prepared it ... now you can met civilizated version of this dish in whole europe. btw Ośle ...

plk123Threads: 30 Posts: 6,412 Joined: Aug 29, 07	Mar 10, 08, 15:15 / #
lol.. no, tartar is made with beef only. pork one would kill you. :D

MoonlightingThreads: 60 Posts: 308 Joined: Apr 28, 07	Mar 11, 08, 06:29 / #
My Polish friend prefers veal tatar. I prefer beef. Pork? Never heard of it...

Wroclaw Boy	Mar 11, 08, 06:33 / #
I wouldn't eat anything that consisted of not properly cooked pork, theyt eat there own fesis for goodness sake. Providing the pork is cooked properly its the best ive ever tasted. Turkey here is fantastic too.

ShelleySThreads: 18 Posts: 3,647 Joined: Jun 26, 07	Mar 11, 08, 07:12 / #
Hmmmm...Steak tartare - had it in France a couple of times, its usually horse meat over there or beef :) Steak tatar

Tommy	Mar 13, 08, 13:32 / #
Moonlighting wrote: My Polish friend prefers veal tatar. I prefer beef. Pork? Never heard of it... What`s the difference? Meat is meat, doesn`t matter where it comes from.... A pig or a cow, all the same, aren`t they?

ZgubionyThreads: 21 Posts: 2,037 Joined: Oct 20, 06	Edited by: Zgubiony Mar 13, 08, 13:36 / #
plk123 wrote: lol.. no, tartar is made with beef only. pork one would kill you. :D Moonlighting wrote: Pork? Never heard of it... Try mett. this is similar to tartare, but with pork and won't kill you :)

SeanusThreads: 22 Posts: 30,158 Joined: Dec 25, 07	Dec 24, 08, 16:32 / #
I tried this once, not bad not bad. I ate raw fish (sashimi) for quite a while but I was reluctant to try raw meat. However, it went down well. My landlord prepared it well.

mafketisThreads: 17 Posts: 1,880 Joined: Mar 31, 08	Dec 24, 08, 17:56 / #
From the mistakes-you-make-only-once department: Many years ago, I bought what looked like fresh tatar on Saturday morning from a meat stand. Little did I realize that it was probably from Thursday and the weather hadn't been that cold. I bought it thinking to make hamburger steak (which might have been okay) but a 'friend' said it looked like tatar so I had it that way (minus egg or sardine or pickle or vodka). About 36 hours later I became sick as a dog with a splitting headache and really bad case of the shakes. Strangely I don't remember throwing up though I assume I did. I still enjoy tatar but only from places I trust (and lots and lots of vodka, did I mention lots of vodka?)

SeanusThreads: 22 Posts: 30,158 Joined: Dec 25, 07	Dec 24, 08, 17:59 / #
I was lucky that I lived in port towns in Japan and sashimi was guaranteed to be fresh. Tatar isn't always. Tatar just isn't tasty enough to risk it. Just like carp, fatty but tastes bad.

bigrob	Dec 29, 08, 14:56 / #
Tommy: The quality of meat isn`t so bad in Poland if Poles eat tatar - a dish made with raw meat. My Girlfriend made tatar, the important thing is to use steak mince, or at least a proper cut of meat (always beef). The general mince that is in most supermarkets contains the sort of stuff that NEEDS to be cooked to kill all those nasty bacteria , that will indeed upset any but the most battle hardened stomachs. Me being a bit of a big girls blouse with raw meat, turned mine into burgers, and they were absolutely gorgeous!

plk123Threads: 30 Posts: 6,412 Joined: Aug 29, 07	Dec 29, 08, 17:38 / #
bigrob: My Girlfriend made tatar, the important thing is to use steak mince, or at least a proper cut of meat (always beef). The general mince that is in most supermarkets contains the sort of stuff that NEEDS to be cooked to kill all those nasty bacteria , that will indeed upset any but the most battle hardened stom actually tartar is not raw, per se... it is kind of "cooked". it works the same way as ceviche.

polishgirltx	Dec 29, 08, 15:13 / #
Tommy: Tatar - a raw meat dish i didn't like that dish at first... but i didn't like sushi at first either... and now, pure love! ;)

GordonBleu	Oct 26, 09, 05:11 / #
Steak Tartare is NOT cooked, not "cooked" in any way. It's raw beef, with a raw egg yolk, a mashed salty anchovy, minced onion, powdered dry paprika, and maybe a bit of mustard. It's delicious on a bit of bread, with icy-cold wodka to accompany. The usual garnishes are chopped boiled egg, or capers, but these are also optional. Other considerations: -- It's best to have the meat minced at the latest possible moment before serving and not to use ground or minced beef that has been sitting in the meat display, to avoid food poisoning. If at the market, ask the butcher to grind it at your request, ideally using a clean machine. -- Use the leanest beef there is, for best taste and for your health and digestion. -- Pigs are rather more likely than cows to pick up parasites (trichina worms, for example) that lodge in the muscle meat and that can be equally injurious to humans. Therefore, eating uncooked (or very rare) pork is a bad idea, and pork tartare just isn't done. (Tuna tartare is a modern fad, but be sure to use sushi-quality fish, to avoid oceanic parasites.) Ceviche is made with lemon or lime juice, which has enough acid to reduce the bacteria count somewhat, but ceviche as normally served is not "cooked" as far as breaking down the muscle fibers or aiding digestion. The protein fibers begin to break down a little if the ceviche is held at least three hours, by which time it has become unpalatable.

PlasticPoleThreads: 10 Posts: 5,429 Joined: May 28, 09	Oct 26, 09, 05:53 / #
GordonBleu: Steak Tartare is NOT cooked, not "cooked" in any way. It's raw beef, with a raw egg yolk, a mashed salty anchovy, minced onion, powdered dry paprika, and maybe a bit of mustard. It's delicious on a bit of bread, with icy-cold wodka to accompany. The usual garnishes are chopped boiled egg, or capers, but these are also optional. So, do you mince the steak before you put it on the bread? Sounds like a fancy steak salad.

scottie1113Threads: 11 Posts: 873 Joined: Mar 13, 07	Oct 27, 09, 22:14 / #
I like tatar. I made it in the US, have eaten it in France and even in a Polish home on Easter Sunday amidst all the egg dishes. Delicious. Use beef, NEVER pork. There's a huge difference. You can get trichnosis from undercooked pork so imagine what raw pork can do to you. You can't compare sushi to tatar. Try sashimi (raw fish) instead. Excellent. And ceviche, what a treat! I'm getting hungry.

frdThreads: 8 Posts: 1,956 Joined: Feb 3, 09	Oct 27, 09, 22:20 / #
Never try "tatar" while travelling polish train.. I heard few diarrhea stories..

RaijinThreads: 1 Posts: 23 Joined: Nov 18, 09	Nov 19, 09, 09:59 / #
Oh... This is my thread. I like tatar too! I put cut onion and raw egg into Tatar. When I have tatar and Tyskie, I can be in heaven:-)

Cardno85Threads: 33 Posts: 858 Joined: Jul 11, 08 MEMBER	Nov 19, 09, 11:00 / #
frd: Never try "tatar" while travelling polish train.. I heard few diarrhea stories.. Your first mistake was surely eating food from a train anywhere. I have never even had a decent sandwich on a train so I wouldn't dare eat raw meat! As for Tatar, I love it, raw onions, raw egg and some capers...yummy.

krysiaThreads: 26 Posts: 3,604 Joined: Aug 10, 06	Nov 20, 09, 03:38 / #
Thay're called "cannibal sandwiches"

mafketisThreads: 17 Posts: 1,880 Joined: Mar 31, 08	Nov 20, 09, 09:45 / #
polkamaniac: .The best way to eat it is to chase it down with a nice cold beer!!!!!!!! I prefer vodka, especially czysta żołądkowa....

polkamaniacThreads: 1 Posts: 514 Joined: Aug 2, 09	Nov 27, 09, 01:59 / #
Yeah--This sandwich will put hair on your chest !!!!!!!!

cheehawThreads: 9 Posts: 831 Joined: Oct 10, 09	Nov 27, 09, 03:22 / #
I hope the beef is real beef.. not factory fed antibiotic steroid grown .. personally i wouldn't dare touch it these days. is real tasty though I used to eat that.. back when i ate oysters like a mad woman too. I have done successive parasite cleanses over the years as a result too. saw a good size tapeworm come out once. now go eat your steak tartar.. enjoy! as for me.. never again.

convexThreads: 46 Posts: 7,185 Joined: Nov 25, 09	Nov 27, 09, 03:35 / #
you can get trichnosis from eating the neighbors garbage disposal pig raw. millions of fresh mettwurst sandwiches are sold in german every week without a problem. if you don't trust your source, you probably shouldn't be eating it. another quick tip for having tartar at a restaurant. the decent places will take the slab of beef out and grind it in front of you. i'm not sure if it's true or not, but i heard that there are a certain additional set of criteria that a restaurant has to achieve with regards to the storage and prep area if they want to sell tartar. side note, any suggestions for good tartar? there is a place in klodko that was awesome, will dig out the name...

cheehawThreads: 9 Posts: 831 Joined: Oct 10, 09	Edited by: cheehaw Nov 27, 09, 03:48 / #
My grandfather used to make smoked kielbasa.. when its spiced up, salted and smoked, the parasites get killed. steak tartar is simply raw. I still say.. eat at your own risk. there is not a single living thing on this earth that walks.. that does not carry parasites of one sort or another. (yes, that includes you)