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Chlopiec ma zamiar wspiac sie na drabinie into English please.....



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The boy is going to climb on the ladder???

would that be a perfect translation?

cheers
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Yes, that looks like the best translation :)
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Seanus:
Yes, that looks like the best translation :)

Oops, Seanus, are you really English? Scottish??? Welsh??? :):):):)

What about climbing the ladder or climbing up the ladder?
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plg:
The boy is going to climb on the ladder

Chłopiec ma zamiar wspi±ć się na drabinę.

Chłopiec ma zamiar wspi±ć się po drabinie po jabłko.
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plg:
Chlopiec ma zamiar wspiac sie na drabinie


If you insist on the use of the word "drabinie" then the correct way to say it should be "po drabinie" in which case the translation would be The boy intents to climb up the ladder
You probably meant; Chłopiec ma zamiar wspi±ć się na drabinę.
In which case the translation would be; The boy intents to climb the ladder.
plg:
The boy is going to climb on the ladder???

Translates to; Chłopiec będzie się wspinał na drabinę.
Intention and actual attempt are two different things; the first example states he is simply contemplating or toying with an idea in his head but plans do not necessarily translate into action, while the other definitely states that he made up his mind and it’s just a question of time when he will actually do it. English language makes that distinction, so does Polish. Then again who knows what you actually meant in your title so I could be full of shit or I had one too many tonight.
SeanusThreads: 22
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You have to climb onto it to climb up it, Pawian ;) ;)

Spi±ć suggests continuity whereas wspi±ć suggests once but I could be wrong.
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In my view, wspinać się na drabinie is wrong. Wspinać/wspi±ć się na drabinę (Acc) as well as wspinać/wspi±ć się po drabinie (Loc) is correct, the former just stating someone's "relation" with the ladder, the latter "wanting" a certain continuation of the sentence, for example: Wspi±ł się po drabinie na dach/na drzewo, although it may be a stand-alone expression as well.
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Seanus:
You have to climb onto it to climb up it, Pawian ;) ;)

Aaaah, yes! In this meaning- right.

Seanus:
Spi±ć

Wspinać.
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Wspinać, thank you sir. I thought sth looked wrong with spi±ć. The fact that I have never heard of it might have sounded the alarm bells :)
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Seanus:
I thought sth looked wrong with spi±ć. The fact that I have never heard of it might have sounded the alarm bells :)

Spi±ć and spinać do exist as well.
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Spi±cy looks better :) But my use of spi±ć was wrong, right?
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It was. "Spi±cy" has an ¶ in it, so it is ¶pi±cy. You may be thinking of spinaj±cy = doing the spinanie action.
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¦pi±cy, that's what I'm talkin about. I've only written it about 500 times ;) ;)

Thanks, Ziemowit :)
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