Help translating a phrase on a coffee mug. boze ja rada kavu

mav:

Just used google translate 'auto detect language' option

This is the result:
Translation: Czech (automatically detected) » English
God I love coffee

corradcm:

You guys are cracking me up! The mug has more sentimental value to me than monetary value, I'm sure. I think of my grandparents whenever I see it, which is better than a few dollars.

I'm glad my mug has kept everyone entertained :)

SeanusThreads: 22 Posts: 30,160 Joined: Dec 25, 07	Oct 3, 09, 01:25 / #
Exactly!

OsiedleRuda	Oct 3, 09, 01:42 / #
Seanus: Exactly! Almost. ;) In Czech, ráda is not the same as rada. The former is from rád (to like/care for), the latter means "advice" (among other things). You can't "advise" the coffee, you "like" it! :) After all this argument, the coffee must surely be cold by now :D

SeanusThreads: 22 Posts: 30,160 Joined: Dec 25, 07	Oct 3, 09, 01:51 / #
I was merely agreeing with asik :)

Lir	Oct 3, 09, 02:02 / #
OsiedleRuda: After all this argument, the coffee must surely be cold by now :D 34 posts in reply overall and all the person wanted was a translation of four words.......LOL :)

asikThreads: 2 Posts: 547 Joined: Feb 17, 09	Oct 3, 09, 02:03 / #
As I've mentioned earlier, an early Polish language was a mix of West Slavic languages (including Czech). The oldest Polish sentenced discovered and registered as Polish was such a mix . This oldest sentence contains elements characteristic of (alphabetically) Czech, Polish, and Silesian languages and comes from the year 1270 : Day, ut ia pobrusa, a ti poziwai and transcripted as "Daj ać ja pobruszę, a ty poczywaj" which means: "Let me, I shall grind, and you take a rest". With the sentence on the mug I'm almost sure (won't give my hand to be cut) it is written in early Polish.

SeanusThreads: 22 Posts: 30,160 Joined: Dec 25, 07	Oct 3, 09, 02:05 / #
I'll grind and you take a rest :) That could be applied to the dance floor or, um, somewhere else ;) ;)

OsiedleRuda	Edited by: OsiedleRuda Oct 3, 09, 02:10 / #
asik: Day, ut ia pobrusa, a ti poziwai That sounds like a mixture of Slovak and Silesian :) All languages are a "mixture", except maybe the few which are regarded as language isolates.

asikThreads: 2 Posts: 547 Joined: Feb 17, 09	Oct 3, 09, 02:34 / #
OsiedleRuda: asik: Day, ut ia pobrusa, a ti poziwai That sounds like a mixture of Slovak and Silesian :) All languages are a "mixture", except maybe the few which are regarded as language isolates. What language "mixture" it represents, is already proven by the experts. Seanus: I'll grind and you take a rest :) That could be applied to the dance floor or, um, somewhere else ;) ;) No one was dancing:) A Czech settler and peasant from the village named Brukalice (within Ząbkowice Śląskie County) is reported to say this sentence to his wife as he felt compassion for his wife, who "very often stood grinding by the quern-stone".

MagdalenaThreads: 5 Posts: 1,365 Joined: Aug 15, 07	Oct 3, 09, 12:46 / #
asik: With the sentence on the mug I'm almost sure (won't give my hand to be cut) it is written in early Polish. So you think that coffee was known and enjoyed in medieval Poland? And the mug is an antique? I agree of course that the early Slavonic languages were very similar to each other, having gone their separate ways only recently, but why would you think a coffee mug would be inscribed in early Polish when coffee, coffee mugs, and especially coffee mugs with funny and/or silly phrases on them are a very modern phenomenon? And the text in question is Czech (modern Czech) through and through? Why go to all the trouble? I am trying to use Occam's Razor here, you see.

corradcmThreads: 1 Posts: 4 Joined: Sep 28, 09	Edited by: corradcm Oct 4, 09, 04:50 / #
Thank you to everyone who replied to this request. I apologize for any headaches I have caused you. :) I admittedly forgot to check underneath for information and just assumed it was Polish since that was where my grandmother was from. The mug is stamped as made in Czechoslovakia (my grandfather was born and raised in Ružomberok); therefore, it could have been his, or his mothers. I should have examined it more carefully and feel very foolish. My mistake. I've attached a photo of the mug for all those interested. Thanks again for all of your help! Carolyn

corradcmThreads: 1 Posts: 4 Joined: Sep 28, 09	Oct 4, 09, 05:17 / #
I don;t see the photo, so I am not sure what I am doing wrong. Help with attaching a photo, anyone? (After I choose the file and write the description, how do I attach it to the message?)

VincentThreads: 15 Posts: 1,606 Joined: Sep 9, 07 [Moderator]	Oct 4, 09, 09:39 / #
corradcm: I don;t see the photo, so I am not sure what I am doing wrong. Help with attaching a photo, anyone? (After I choose the file and write the description, how do I attach it to the message?) This guide should help. Here

rafikThreads: 21 Posts: 740 Joined: Jun 22, 06	Edited by: rafik Oct 4, 09, 10:06 / #
It could also be the size of the picture you want to attach. To resize it use a very simple program that you may find here; http://bluefive.pair.com/pixresizer.htm click "load" then find a picture on your PC,tick 50% for example and save.Done!

MichalThreads: - Posts: 2,408 Joined: Feb 27, 07	Edited by: Michal Oct 4, 09, 20:35 / #
OsiedleRuda: he Polish transalation wouldn't include "Bóg", eithe Then why include it if not included in the first place? however, looking at the jug, the wording is different from that originally posted.

OsiedleRuda	Oct 4, 09, 17:03 / #
Haha! At last!!!! The corradcm: infamous mug which has caused so much argument over something so comparatively simple!!! Can you imagine the trouble you would have caused if your mug had this on: 我喜欢咖啡 :D ;)

OsiedleRuda	Edited by: OsiedleRuda Oct 4, 09, 20:59 / #
Michal: Then why include it if not included in the first place? I give up. The Polish translation would be "Boże, ja lubię kawę" Michal: however, looking at the jug, the wording is different from that originally posted. lmfao. how exactly???? :D Just to annoy everyone, this is the Chinese translation 上帝我喜欢咖啡 haha

ZiemowitThreads: 10 Posts: 1,056 Joined: May 8, 09	Edited by: Ziemowit Oct 5, 09, 11:07 / #
corradcm: the infamous mug Why infamous? ... It is truly famous by now ... So, checking the mug underneath for any further information has resulted in an epoch finding that the mug was... Czechoslovakian! No early Polish writings on it then? None the less, I would like to point your attention to the fact that both Czechia (Bohemia) and Slovakia were temporarily conquered by the Polish king Bolesław Chrobry around A.D. 1000 (anyway, Bolesław was half-Czech so he claimed that not only Poland but the lands of future Czechoslovakia should rightly belong to him), so we can never tell for sure... He might have ordered an inscription in early Polish to be engraved on the mug to commemorate the fact that his beloved German (if I'm not mistaken) wife loved coffee which she used to drink while visiting lands conquered by his brave husband ...

Lir	Oct 5, 09, 11:20 / #
Ziemowit: checking the mug underneath Ah ha! Ziemowit: epoch finding Great! Ziemowit: his beloved German (if I'm not mistaken) wife loved coffee That explains it then! **Hope the coffee tested nice in that mug then ? Did they use mugs a long time ago then? Did they drink coffee that long ago too ? corradcm: I've attached a photo of the mug for all those interested. How old is this mug? Is it an antique? Should you get it valued then ? I like coffee too but I don't care what it says on the mug so long as the coffee is good :) Just wondering. :))

MagdalenaThreads: 5 Posts: 1,365 Joined: Aug 15, 07	Oct 5, 09, 12:45 / #
Lir: How old is this mug? Bearing in mind that Czechoslovakia was only created after WW1, this mug could not have been produced earlier than 1918 ;-p

Lir	Oct 5, 09, 13:11 / #
Ziemowit: Polish king Bolesław Chrobry around A.D. 1000 Ziemowit: He might have ordered an inscription in early Polish to be engraved on the mug to commemorate the fact that his beloved German (if I'm not mistaken) wife loved coffee which she used to drink Magdalena: Bearing in mind that Czechoslovakia was only created after WW1, this mug could not have been produced earlier than 1918 ;-p Blows that theory out of the window then LOL....... Am sure there will be some more theories on this for us to read, prove or disprove.. I love this thread but not as much as I love coffee :))

ZiemowitThreads: 10 Posts: 1,056 Joined: May 8, 09	Edited by: Ziemowit Oct 5, 09, 15:04 / #
Lir: Blows that theory out of the window then LOL....... Well, not quite, I should say ... Bolesław Chrobry in his great wisdom (combining in him the wisdom of both the Polish and the Czech nation) had forseen that Czechoslovakia should one day come into existence. Having forseen that, he had no trouble in telling his craftments to mould this very beautiful (no question about that, it was intended to be offered to his beloved German wife) mug in the proper style of the epoch to come after the Austrian-Hungarian Empire would fall ruined (for ever, let's hope). What's more, he was prophetic to the point that he envisaged the arrival of the great Czech reformer Ian Hus who in 1415 or 1416 invented diacritical marks for the Czech language like the one over the letter "ż" (punctus rotundus) in the word "Boże" which later on the Czechs changed into "ž" as their printing machines couldn't always print the punctus distinctly, although the Polish, having partially followed his idea within their own language, never changed it to "ž", abiding by the original "ż" of Ian Hus to this very day ...

corradcmThreads: 1 Posts: 4 Joined: Sep 28, 09	Oct 5, 09, 16:53 / #
You guys are cracking me up! The mug has more sentimental value to me than monetary value, I'm sure. I think of my grandparents whenever I see it, which is better than a few dollars. I'm glad my mug has kept everyone entertained :) Thanks again!

mavThreads: - Posts: 10 Joined: Oct 4, 09	Edited by: mav Oct 5, 09, 18:48 / #
Bože, Já ráda kávu Just used google translate 'auto detect language' option This is the result: Translation: Czech (automatically detected) » English God I love coffee

OsiedleRuda	Edited by: OsiedleRuda Oct 5, 09, 18:59 / #
mav: Just used google translate 'auto detect language' option This is the result: Translation: Czech (automatically detected) » English God I love coffee Won't stop Michal telling you it's wrong, though :) Ziemowit: great Czech reformer Ian Hus Jan Hus ;) corradcm: You guys are cracking me up! The mug has more sentimental value to me than monetary value, I'm sure. I think of my grandparents whenever I see it, which is better than a few dollars. I'm glad my mug has kept everyone entertained :) This mug should become the official PF mascot, or something ;) Never have so many argued so much over so little :D And the biggest miracle of all - 96 replies, without a single mention of Polsh Wmen! haha

ZiemowitThreads: 10 Posts: 1,056 Joined: May 8, 09	Oct 5, 09, 20:15 / #
OsiedleRuda: And the biggest miracle of all - 96 replies, without a single mention of Polsh Wmen! haha We, however, do mention a German woman here, wife of king Bolesław I, whose enormous appetite for coffee led him to conquer the peace-loving folk of the future Republic of Czechoslovakia ...