Pole: What is your nationality? I am eurounian....

Matyjasz:

Well I'm European, Pole, Wielkopolanin, Opaleniczanin, ect, ect... and I don't think that one identity contradicts the other.

Zgubiony:

I am Native American with English and Ukranian ancestry. I will never lose my Native heritage.

Fascinating. The territory of today’s Ukraine was once "the wild west" of Europe, with the difference that it was actually located on the east. ;P Many outlaws, adventurers and runaway peasants fled there to start a new and better life. Aside from Poles, Ruthenians, Lithuanians, Jews, Tartars, Germans, Armenians, etc there were also many people from the rest of Europe, even from England or France. The land was very fertile but it was also a very dangerous place because of many Tartar raids, Cossack uprisings, wars with Russia, Turkey etc... I do see a similarity between your Ukrainian and Native American heritage. :) Sorry for the off topic.

YanekThreads: 4 Posts: 49 Joined: Aug 16, 08	Aug 19, 08, 21:53 / #
It's our future, guys...... Very soon we are going to loose our identity.

polishgirltx	Aug 19, 08, 21:56 / #
well, i am Polish... and i don't know about next generations... probably, maybe so....

JaeTheProducerThreads: 4 Posts: 44 Joined: Aug 17, 08	Aug 19, 08, 21:57 / #
English. I have 'italian blood' but i class my self as English as i spent 20 out of my 21 one years of my time on earth in England.

krysiaThreads: 26 Posts: 3,604 Joined: Aug 10, 06	Aug 19, 08, 22:03 / #
I come from Tatarian Royalty "Lipkowie" who where situated in Litwa. Our Royal clan was the Almak-Han. We did not become Muslims in Turkey or anything like that. We stayed in Poland. All of my ancestors including me and my children, as well as my brothers and sisters have a Royal Mark in a shape of a dark spot somewhere on our legs. It is a mark which prooves that we have the Royal Blood in us.

YanekThreads: 4 Posts: 49 Joined: Aug 16, 08	Aug 19, 08, 22:17 / #
I raised this issue because the nature of this union suppose such result. Are you agree with me?

Wahldo	Edited by: Wahldo Aug 19, 08, 22:24 / #
Yanek: Very soon we are going to loose our identity. Well, dont let it happen.. Somebody else might mess up Zywiec. Seriously, I think you'll be okay.

shewolfThreads: 5 Posts: 1,834 Joined: Dec 23, 06	Aug 19, 08, 23:31 / #
krysia: All of my ancestors including me and my children, as well as my brothers and sisters have a Royal Mark in a shape of a dark spot somewhere on our legs. It is a mark which prooves that we have the Royal Blood in us. cute. can we see it?

Warsaw8Threads: 7 Posts: 227 Joined: Jul 23, 08	Aug 20, 08, 02:02 / #
North Central european. With my eyes, nose and facial hair, its not hard to guess where im from...

Bratwurst BoyThreads: 11 Posts: 14,563 Joined: Apr 2, 07	Aug 20, 08, 02:27 / #
Yanek: I raised this issue because the nature of this union suppose such result. Are you agree with me? Ask the americans...

mafketisThreads: 17 Posts: 1,880 Joined: Mar 31, 08	Edited by: mafketis Aug 20, 08, 05:19 / #
Yanek: I raised this issue because the nature of this union suppose such result. Are you agree with me? No. I'm not a fan of everything the EU does, but overall it's done much more good than harm (and has the best record of erradicating poverty of any such supernational alliance). And there's no evidence whatsoever that it's erasing cultural differences. I've travelled in Shengen and landing in Hungary or Amsterdam, it's just as obvious as ever that you're in a different country. But, no one's preventing you from trying to convince Polish people that it's a huge threat and that Poland should withdraw from it. But are Polish people really willing to give up EU money? Do they really want to have to absorb back almost all of the Poles in the EU right away? Do you really want to have to go back to getting visas to cross the Polish border (or going to the post office to try to get your passport)? There's no such thing as a free lunch and EU membership does limit what Poland can do to some extent, but overall it's a tradeoff that's well worth making. ps: my nationality is American though I've lived in Poland well over 10 years now with no plans of moving anywhere else (though february mornings make somewhere sunny seem mighty tempting)

ZgubionyThreads: 21 Posts: 2,037 Joined: Oct 20, 06	Aug 20, 08, 08:07 / #
ShelleyS: Just in case he asks you who you are Mr Z I believe he meant to quote mafketis. Smarta*s :P

ZgubionyThreads: 21 Posts: 2,037 Joined: Oct 20, 06	Edited by: Zgubiony Aug 20, 08, 08:30 / #
Because you're so concerned with saying "my country" and keeping identity, so I was curious if you live there. That's all, no need to be defensive.

ZgubionyThreads: 21 Posts: 2,037 Joined: Oct 20, 06	Edited by: Zgubiony Aug 20, 08, 08:36 / #
He didn't say his nationality is American. He was quoting someone else, but used P.S (post script) instead. ...i've fixed.

MatyjaszThreads: 2 Posts: 1,786 Joined: Jul 20, 06	Aug 20, 08, 09:36 / #
Now I understand why you like polish cuisine. :) It's all makes sense now. :) You need to visit Ukraine. It's a beautiful place. Poor but very picturesque.

YanekThreads: 4 Posts: 49 Joined: Aug 16, 08	Aug 20, 08, 07:52 / #
mafketis: ps: my nationality is American though I've lived in Poland well over 10 years now with no plans of moving anywhere else (though february mornings make somewhere sunny seem mighty tempting) Americans are here... I do need to ask them.... Goodbye Poland and our identity!!!

ZgubionyThreads: 21 Posts: 2,037 Joined: Oct 20, 06	Aug 20, 08, 07:58 / #
I am Native American with English and Ukranian ancestry. I will never lose my Native heritage. Yanek. Where do you reside? You state you're Polish, but do you live in Poland?

ShelleySThreads: 18 Posts: 3,647 Joined: Jun 26, 07	Aug 20, 08, 08:05 / #
Zgubiony: You state you're Polish, but do you live in Poland? Yanek: ps: my nationality is American though I've lived in Poland well over 10 years Just in case he asks you who you are Mr Z Zgubiony: I am Native American with English and Ukranian ancestry. I will never lose my Native heritage.

YanekThreads: 4 Posts: 49 Joined: Aug 16, 08	Aug 20, 08, 08:24 / #
I am Pole, so what? What else do you need to know? My address?

krysiaThreads: 26 Posts: 3,604 Joined: Aug 10, 06	Edited by: krysia Aug 20, 08, 08:35 / #
Yanek: my nationality is American Yanek: I am Pole So you are...........?

krysiaThreads: 26 Posts: 3,604 Joined: Aug 10, 06	Aug 20, 08, 08:38 / #
OK. Sorry. I get it. Never mind.

MatyjaszThreads: 2 Posts: 1,786 Joined: Jul 20, 06	Aug 20, 08, 09:12 / #
Well I'm European, Pole, Wielkopolanin, Opaleniczanin, ect, ect... and I don't think that one identity contradicts the other. Zgubiony: I am Native American with English and Ukranian ancestry. I will never lose my Native heritage. Fascinating. The territory of today’s Ukraine was once "the wild west" of Europe, with the difference that it was actually located on the east. ;P Many outlaws, adventurers and runaway peasants fled there to start a new and better life. Aside from Poles, Ruthenians, Lithuanians, Jews, Tartars, Germans, Armenians, etc there were also many people from the rest of Europe, even from England or France. The land was very fertile but it was also a very dangerous place because of many Tartar raids, Cossack uprisings, wars with Russia, Turkey etc... I do see a similarity between your Ukrainian and Native American heritage. :) Sorry for the off topic.

ZgubionyThreads: 21 Posts: 2,037 Joined: Oct 20, 06	Aug 20, 08, 09:16 / #
It's ok, thanks for that :) It's all interesting material and I'm still in the process of seeing how far I can go back with my genealogy research.

ZgubionyThreads: 21 Posts: 2,037 Joined: Oct 20, 06	Aug 20, 08, 09:42 / #
I'd love to visit one of these days. Slowly but surely I'm making my way around Europe :)

CalicoeThreads: 1 Posts: 205 Joined: Aug 15, 08	Edited by: Calicoe Aug 20, 08, 11:57 / #
Matyjasz: Well I'm European, Pole, Wielkopolanin, Opaleniczanin, ect, ect... and I don't think that one identity contradicts the other. Zgubiony: I am Native American with English and Ukranian ancestry. I will never lose my Native heritage. Fascinating. The territory of today’s Ukraine was once "the wild west" of Europe, with the difference that it was actually located on the east. ;P Many outlaws, adventurers and runaway peasants fled there to start a new and better life. Aside from Poles, Ruthenians, Lithuanians, Jews, Tartars, Germans, Armenians, etc there were also many people from the rest of Europe, even from England or France. The land was very fertile but it was also a very dangerous place because of many Tartar raids, Cossack uprisings, wars with Russia, Turkey etc... I do see a similarity between your Ukrainian and Native American heritage. :) Sorry for the off topic. Yes, it is incredibly fascinating. I have also commented on a couple of other genealogy threads since I started here. I also have Native American blood, via South America (Suriname and Dutch West Indies) on the paternal father's side. I was given up for adoption, and raised in another vibrant ethnic culture. However, I have now started to research my biological heritage of Eastern Europe, and it has been the beginning of a fascinating journey. I am part Polish and Hungarian on the maternal biological side, and Suriname (Arawak and various strains of East Indian, Asian and Dutch). I look European to most people's eyes, but from where exactly??? The research on the E. European side has led me again into Asia, into the Ural-Altai regions and the Turanian migration of Central Asia, and the history of the Slavs, Ural-Altai tribes, Mongolian Turks, multi-ethnic confederations, Scythians, Samaritians, Khazars, Avars, Tatars, Huns, Magyars, Cossacks ... fascinating ride. I feel confident and validated saying that I am Eurasian, because I feel that the term has merit in its own right. I think people who sneered at the term (and previously I could have been one), simply don't know enough about the region and its origins.

chase5Threads: 3 Posts: 20 Joined: May 30, 07	Aug 20, 08, 12:01 / #
Native American (indian) about 90% YEA!

CalicoeThreads: 1 Posts: 205 Joined: Aug 15, 08	Aug 20, 08, 12:03 / #
Yeah, and if you go back long enough, it brings you back to Asia, lol.

Warsaw8Threads: 7 Posts: 227 Joined: Jul 23, 08	Aug 20, 08, 12:21 / #
^ I heard that too. I completely misunderstood this thread, and now im still not sure whats its about.

krysiaThreads: 26 Posts: 3,604 Joined: Aug 10, 06	Aug 20, 08, 12:22 / #
Warsaw8: and now im still not sure whats its about. Nobody does.

plk123Threads: 30 Posts: 6,412 Joined: Aug 29, 07	Apr 6, 09, 07:47 / #
Yanek: What is your nationality? polak