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An insight into understanding the Polish case system!



LeftyThreads: 19
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Hejo,

How's everyone going? I've been very busy of late but I've been working on something designed to give learners of Polish an insight into understanding the Polish case system! :D

Believe me it's quite a challenge! I could really do with someone to help me by reviewing it and seeing if they think it is ready for posting onto Polish forums!

It's a combination of some ideas taken from other website which were then mixed together and watered down (or in some cases beefed up) and made easier for me (therefore you!) to understand.

I should be done with this by the end of next week but if anyone is interested in reviewing this please can you PM me your email address :) I could do with some Poles and English perspectives on this so I am sure it makes as much sense as possible and then if it works I will ask the mods to make it a sticky!

I hope for this to be a great help to people who are confused by cases like I was (and still am a little bit :P).

dzięki
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Sounds interesting! Just put a sample of your work onto the PF and we'll see if it's going to be a breakthrough in understanding the Polish case systems.
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Lefty:
How's everyone going? I've been very busy of late but I've been working on something designed to give learners of Polish an insight into understanding the Polish case system! :D

What is a Polish case system?
LeftyThreads: 19
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santander:
What is a Polish case system?

How long have you been learning Polish?
santanderThreads: 1
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Lefty:
How long have you been learning Polish?

Sorry I thought you were talking about Polish Casework and reports, of which I was curious, you are obviously talking about the grammatics of the language.
SeanusThreads: 22
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Polish cases, wow, what a topic to choose. I have many shortcomings when it comes to them.
SeanusThreads: 22
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What cases are you not comfortable with, Lefty?
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The one and only place to learn Polish - from starter work to advance is Live Mocha.com
I discovered it a couple of weeks ago and wish I had known about it for the last year while I have been learning.
LeftyThreads: 19
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Seanus:
Polish cases, wow, what a topic to choose. I have many shortcomings when it comes to them.

I'm trying and hoping I can get something sorted... It will just be a base guide though and nothing comprehensive!

I'm sure it will be nothing you don't know already!

Seanus:
What cases are you not comfortable with, Lefty?

The only ones I know so far are Nominative and Instrumental because my teach won't let me overload myself and we have to stick to my workbook!




dug321:
The one and only place to learn Polish - from starter work to advance is Live Mocha.com
I discovered it a couple of weeks ago and wish I had known about it for the last year while I have been learning.

It's a good site but I find myself getting sidetracked with correcting other peoples English :) I don't think you can replace the teacher though.
SeanusThreads: 22
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I wouldn't be so sure. It might strike you as odd but I've never really studied Polish grammar to any appreciable extent. I've picked up 90% of what I know from listening alone.

The instrumental is a nice one to learn. There is some kind of regularity to the rules which is good.
LeftyThreads: 19
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Seanus:
I wouldn't be so sure. It might strike you as odd but I've never really studied Polish grammar to any appreciable extent. I've picked up 90% of what I know from listening alone.

I often think about this and if I just moved to Poland would that be the better option? I don't know maybe I'm doing the right thing maybe I'm not.

Seanus:
The instrumental is a nice one to learn. There is some kind of regularity to the rules which is good.

I have a feeling that my teacher hasn't told me everything there is to do with it though but that's fine I feel like I know something and it's an inspiration to keep learning :D
SeanusThreads: 22
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It really boils down to how you learn. Many teachers intentionally withhold information. Times have changed and we have the tools necessary for effective self study. I don't baby my students and I sure as hell don't encourage laziness. Some people here expect a magic wand which, simply put, they are not going to get from me. I give them the building blocks without giving out too much.
Lyzko   Dec 12, 09, 14:40 /  #
Any of you folks find that Poles will correct your Polish mistakes, that is, notice case confusions, and tell you what you've done wrong? Or is it more like here in the US, where people are usually so glad a foreigner speaks their language that they don't bother to say anything?

Just curious)))
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They tend not to correct case mistakes if they get the meaning. Some do and some don't but they tend to let it slide.
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Lefty:
I have a feeling that my teacher hasn't told me everything there is to do with it though but that's fine I feel like I know something and it's an inspiration to keep learning :D

Duh, you simply can't take it all at once!! Given some time, your teacher might discuss more issues! :) What about if you post the summary of what you have learnt so far? It will be a good revision for you and possible benefits for others.
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