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I know Russian language - will it help me learn Polish?


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Seanus:
I listen to a lot of TATU and gain from that.

here you go. practice the numbers one, two, three in russian.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tmqjf26JDCg
Lyzko   Dec 19, 09, 16:58 /  #
Seanus!

Drawing from my own experience, it's super easy to confuse Russian with Polsh pronunciation, which, as you know already, is quite a bit different. False friends too abound, and therefore, TAKE IT SLOW!!!!
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That's the best advice but I am under no pressure to learn. I find that I can pick things up more freely that way. There is no gun at my head and no tests in front of me.
Lyzko   Dec 19, 09, 17:23 /  #
Regrettably, less of a gun to your head than to the head of Russian pupils learning (...to hate....! LOL) English in school!!

Who's to say if a bit of gentle pressure's not altogether a bad thing? -:)
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Lyzko, are you Polish or Russian or a mix? A little stress is needed for sure. Russian suits me better in some ways as it's softer. Scottish people tend not to have an easy time of making hard sounds. My wife tried to teach my parents to say CZ in the proper way but it always came out weaker than it was supposed to be, more like CI. My mum knows a little Russian as she studied it some years ago.

You can imagine the lesson where my wife tried to teach my parents to say CZIPA, LOL. The soft version is, um, different ;) ;)
Lyzko   Dec 19, 09, 17:44 /  #
How exactly does the 'Scottish burr' translate into the Polish 'R-trill'???

LOL)))))
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The rolled R is not a problem for Scottish people at all. To jest akurat łatwy.
Lyzko   Dec 19, 09, 19:03 /  #
I've been told the Celtic tongues, such as Welsh (Cymrae) and Scots Gaellic, are grammtically quite challenging as well as unphonetically pronouncable.

Can you speak/understand or read Scots Gaellic?
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I can understand parts but I'm from the east coast where it isn't spoken so very little unfortunately.
Lyzko   Dec 19, 09, 19:33 /  #
...Do you mean, "where it isn't spoken a lot..." or "where it's spoken only a little....", I was confused:-)

You asked me before if I'm Polish or Russian. Actually, I'm neither. I'm US-born and bred of German-Jewish grandparentage!
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Aha, so what draws you to Russian and Polish language? I should have put a comma before 'so' above right enough.
Lyzko   Dec 19, 09, 19:43 /  #
....The sheer practicality of knowing foreign languages:-)
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Well, Russian is more widely spoken of course but knowing both doesn't hurt.
Lyzko   Dec 19, 09, 20:32 /  #
You can say that again.

As I just posted in another thread about an unrelated forum topic, what's the bloody sense in speaking English in Poland, or for that matter, Russia? Maybe it seems superficially easier for the native English speaker falling back on his or her native tongue, but it sure won't be understood as a native speaker would by your run-of-the-mill Pole, Russian or whatever!!!
k98_man   Dec 19, 09, 20:39 /  #
My native language is English and I have a grasp of German. Combined, I have a decent understanding of some Flemish and Dutch.

With similar family sets it is possible for Russian to help, no doubt. It will still be a challenge, however (especially because I have heard Polish grammar is more difficult than Russian).
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Yeah, I only use English here (outside of class, of course) when the Polish person wants me to. Otherwise, I will speak to them in their mother tongue.
Lyzko   Dec 19, 09, 20:49 /  #
Nice addition to our thread!

Indeed, the case could be made either way, depending on whom you talk to. As far as the meta -universal mega-tongue English, I've no problem with visitors wishing to make it easier on themselves and speak English in Poland or wherever, just so long as we're clear that it's a makeshift attempt, rather like a marriage of convenience; it may not work out in the long run, but for a while anyway, it does the trick:-)
Lyzko   Dec 19, 09, 20:51 /  #
Smart move there, Seanus!

Can see you're in it for the long hall. Kinda like marine boot camp; never give in, never give up. LOL
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There are always thing to learn, even in English :)
Lyzko   Dec 19, 09, 21:00 /  #
You bet. Wish certain nationalities were as open minded about their English:-)

A Swede once actually said to me while we were with company that he didn't need to practice his English, as it was perfect (enough) and therefore resented wel-meaning correction by colleagues.

Poles are far more modest, I think.
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When it comes to language they are. When it comes to some other things, most certainly not.

A knowledge of Russian will help but only to get a feel for some common Slavic pronunciation.
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