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The only polish word a foreigner won't ever say correctly :P

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SajaThreads: - Posts: 9 Joined: Mar 2, 08	Mar 2, 08, 03:46 / #
try "Stół z powyłamywanymi nogami"

Wyspianska	Mar 2, 08, 03:48 / #
or: Szedł Sasza suchą szosą susząc sobie szorty ; )

pipeczko	Mar 2, 08, 12:14 / #
Saja wrote: "Stół z powyłamywanymi nogami ok ok that powył one is tricksy (am going to be waking up in the night practising it - have just done it about 100 times, but the usual slowly-slowly-quicker-quick method doesn't seem to be working ; ) try red lorry yellow lorry very quickly a lot of times

SeanusThreads: 22 Posts: 30,158 Joined: Dec 25, 07	Mar 2, 08, 12:19 / #
What a surprise, this must be the billionth time I've heard that one. Stół bez nóg i tyle!!

KrzysztofThreads: 2 Posts: 1,146 Joined: Jul 26, 07	Edited by: Krzysztof Mar 2, 08, 16:24 / #
pipeczko wrote: red lorry yellow lorry that's why the Japanese don't bother with r/l distinction :) they have only one sound for it (r, I think) red rorry, yerrow rorry

MarekThreads: 4 Posts: 1,120 Joined: Feb 15, 07	Mar 3, 08, 14:40 / #
Many of my fellow learners of Polish shed 'tears' over writing/pronouncing 'łzy' correctly. - - :):)!!! LOL Some of these Polish consonant clusters rival the palatalized groupings of equally simple, everyday words in Russian, e.g. 'dver' (drzwi).

polishgirltx	Mar 3, 08, 14:45 / #
won't ever say correctly łyżwy.... księżyc....wyżłobiony....

osiolThreads: 59 Posts: 4,714 Joined: Jul 25, 07	Edited by: osiol Mar 3, 08, 14:54 / #
polishgirltx wrote: łyżwy.... księżyc....wyżłobiony Sorry, but I don't find these words difficult. Not on their own anyway. chcę isn't too bad, but other forms of the same word are a ******* to say right. It's those consonant clusters that pose the most problems and words mixing ś, ć, ź - type consonants with sz, cz, rz type ones. That is tricky.

panienkaThreads: 2 Posts: 215 Joined: Mar 4, 08	Mar 4, 08, 10:41 / #
special one: "zamarznięty" what means freezed, remember to say r and z as separate letters

JustysiaSThreads: 15 Posts: 2,869 Joined: Oct 14, 07 MEMBER	Mar 4, 08, 11:30 / #
panienka wrote: freezed you mean frozen ;). some Polish people tend to say zamarźnięty as well.

panienkaThreads: 2 Posts: 215 Joined: Mar 4, 08	Mar 4, 08, 14:29 / #
ohhh yes, i mean frozen :)

DaveyThreads: 17 Posts: 436 Joined: Jun 29, 07	Mar 4, 08, 14:54 / #
JustysiaS wrote: some Polish people tend to say zamarźnięty as well. It's so misleading

James RevanThreads: 1 Posts: 67 Joined: Jan 24, 08	Mar 4, 08, 14:57 / #
panienka wrote: special one: "zamarznięty" what means freezed, remember to say r and z as separate letters Yeah, this could be a bit hard, but just say the "r" "z" like in the word "Tarzan" ex: http://www.wrzuta.pl/audio/3q0cWOXaIP/

SeanusThreads: 22 Posts: 30,158 Joined: Dec 25, 07	Feb 15, 09, 00:25 / #
The Polish word for arrow springs to mind. That's a bugger to get right :(

osiolThreads: 59 Posts: 4,714 Joined: Jul 25, 07	Feb 15, 09, 00:35 / #
Do you mean strzała?

SeanusThreads: 22 Posts: 30,158 Joined: Dec 25, 07	Feb 15, 09, 00:37 / #
Yes, it's like a pressed sound. When foreigners pronounce ptak, we elongate it too much. The same with strzała. 2 beers and all is well :)

RubasznyRumcajsThreads: 9 Posts: 283 Joined: Mar 29, 08	Feb 15, 09, 01:52 / #
źrebiątko zażółć gęślą jaźń

MarekThreads: 4 Posts: 1,120 Joined: Feb 15, 07	Feb 17, 09, 17:22 / #
'przyjaźń' used to cause me terrible problems--:)

ShelleySThreads: 18 Posts: 3,647 Joined: Jun 26, 07	Feb 17, 09, 17:49 / #
Tak?....

MarekThreads: 4 Posts: 1,120 Joined: Feb 15, 07	Feb 18, 09, 14:38 / #
Ależ tak, Shellyczko! Wyobrazasz tobie 'PSCHII -YAH -DZ'NN', Boż mój!! Man, I get tired just remembering how all tongue-twisted up my poor tongue used to get years ago when first began studying Polish formally. I'd come home from class both frustrated as well as exhausted, yet emboldened and revived by the consolation that half the world, (not only the Poles) struggle the same way with English...and most never really make it either-::) LOL

ShelleySThreads: 18 Posts: 3,647 Joined: Jun 26, 07	Edited by: ShelleyS Feb 18, 09, 15:56 / #
polkurw: I like to learn more about polish culture but why ppl like to say only kurwa? It must be the affect you have on them, personally I've not really come across it ;-) Actually the hardest word I found was: Przepraszam, my "teacher" was so proud when I finally managed it...actually I think relieved is probably the right word, it meant we could move on to other words :)

MarekThreads: 4 Posts: 1,120 Joined: Feb 15, 07	Feb 18, 09, 16:02 / #
I frankly agree with Shelley! It's the same as with many a young lusty male visitor to Sweden and the first word they want to learn how to pronounce in Swedish is 'knulla'. Which country are you from?

MarekThreads: 4 Posts: 1,120 Joined: Feb 15, 07	Feb 18, 09, 16:25 / #
"Boże mój"!, sorry-:) LOL

SunflowerThreads: 15 Posts: 102 Joined: Jun 29, 07	Feb 20, 09, 03:00 / #
paczka: Łódz he he .. easy ;0)

MarekThreads: 4 Posts: 1,120 Joined: Feb 15, 07	Feb 20, 09, 14:29 / #
My teacher tried 'UWWOOTS' for 'Łódź', among numerous other, what she titled "phonmonics" or mnemonic tricks/allusions to different phonetic symbols which often translate in to different, yet familiar, sounds, even words, in the learner's native language. It worked-:):)

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