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rick54Threads: 5
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A search on Pimsleur gave little results, so I'd like to ask if anyone has used the Pimsleur language learning system in their Polish language studies. How did it work for you, and if you'd recommend it's use to others. It can be rather costly beyond the first 8 lessons, so an honest opinion would be greatly appreciated.
Thank you!
daffyincognito   Mar 14, 07, 09:44 /  #
pimsleur in not bad at all, i found myself learning on my own quicker with it, it is aimed at americans and so it takes it nice and slow

daffy in cognito (aka Wroclaw)
szarlotkaThreads: 14
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Quoting: daffyincognito
it is aimed at americans and so it takes it nice and slow


You may expect some flak in return. Brave man
daffyincognito   Mar 14, 07, 09:48 /  #
Quoting: szarlotka
You may expect some flak in return. Brave man


well perhaps but if you actually LISTEN to it, you cannot deny, its how do you say you are american, how do you say are you american
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Quoting: daffyincognito
well perhaps but if you actually LISTEN to it, you cannot deny, its how do you say you are american, how do you say are you american



rick54Threads: 5
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Daffy,
Thank you for your comments. I would hope that the Pimsleur system was aimed towards all slow folks, American or otherwise. I must confess I don't have a photographic memory, so learning Polish is a slow process for me. AND I am American, which must make me an exception and not the rule!
Then again, maybe I missed something on this American thing?
The part of the format I did appreciate was the forward and backward pronunciation in a slow and clear manner. This is unlike the IVONA human speech synthesizer, which gives a much faster word pronunciation and was the subject of a previous post of mine.
Did you proceed beyond lesson 1 with your studies? Did you find the additional lessons as good as the first?
The reason for my asking this is that the Pimsleur website does offer a free lesson 1, which is a good sales tactic to get you to buy the whole set. Did you find that the additional lessons were as good as the first, or were they lacking in any way? Thanks
andylow   Apr 4, 07, 21:16 /  #
I can help you with that.
Joe Ackney   Apr 8, 07, 10:02 /  #
I've been using pimsleur style audio lessons and found them to be useful in training my ear to polish. However,i find it slow and in some cases limited.

Each lesson is about 28 minutes long. In that time an english phrase is spoken then repeated again in english, with small pause between to give you chance to translate the english phrase for your self. Each lesson contains around 10 phrase that are based around a simple dialouge. Those phases are repeated in and out of context. Every lesson introduces a few new words and maybe a phrase.

From my understanding the main focus is on vocab and sentance structure. Detailed grammer is often over looked.

Each lessons builds on the previous lesson so you can progress quickly through the lessons without having to repeat each one more than once. But like i said, it's slow as new material is introduced gradually and each lesson contains alot of old material.

That said, i've found them useful but i wouldn't rely soley on them, try using the pimsleur lessons in conjuction with other learning material.
sledzThreads: 29
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how much does that system cost???

I have rosetta stone and transparent lang program

seems to work pretty good I think
daffyThreads: 40
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you can downlaod it for free with utorrent or something similar
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cool......
Like that old saying " if its free its for me"......
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Well my copy fell off a back of a website
daffyThreads: 40
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Quoting: Joe Ackney
Well my copy fell off a back of a website



weird, mine too! that happens alot these days
svengoolieThreads: 1
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hey send us a link
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BYKI.com! It's great! I did the Pimsler and that was good for speaking simple phrases but to learn to read and write try byki.com. It's free dowload to start and it's at your own pace so if your fast or slow, you can control it.
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Quoting: valmoe1
BYKI.com!

True I bought the full version myself
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Quoting: svengoolie
True I bought the full version myself



i found it basic - though i only took the free version, whats in the full version?
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transparent language its byki`s full version
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Quoting: svengoolie
hey send us a link


Download edonkey and search for pimsleur polish.
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Quoting: Joe Ackney
Download edonkey and search for pimsleur polish.


I have to give it a go...Thanks
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Quoting: Joe Ackney
Download edonkey


Its a p2p site.. Its gotta be loaded with spyware?????
daffyThreads: 40
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use a torrent.

torrents are not loaded with spyware and are more difficult to track and easier/safer to downlaod

ok, well they are both easy to download but safer, yes

utorrent.com

azureus.com

and use for eg.pirate bay for the torrent
sledzThreads: 29
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way kewl daffy
I have it downloading right now....
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Quoting: daffy
though i only took the free version, whats in the full version


transparent.com/languagepages/polish/polish.htm

I like the part that you can load into a ipod
daffyThreads: 40
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pimsleur can be loaded too.

infact, any audio file on your computer can (including WMA if you know how - google how )

Quoting: sledz
transparent.com/languagepages/polish/polish.htm


cool thanks
sledzThreads: 29
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Yo daffy. I was able to get the whole program,
its seems like a pretty good one
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daffy: But as I understand it, you can have the whole interactive lesson on the iPod, it isnt a media file
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ipods hold a wide range of media.

Quoting: ludamad
daffy: But as I understand it, you can have the whole interactive lesson on the iPod, it isnt a media file


i dont fully comprehend your text sorry

as any audio file, they can be made to work on an ipod
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Quoting: sledz
Yo daffy. I was able to get the whole program,
its seems like a pretty good one


cool
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theres another good one on here I just have to find it

Hope it didnt get deleted, It was a good one
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