Zajebiiiiiście!

Pan Zuk GnojowyThreads: 7 Posts: 27 Joined: Oct 26, 09	Oct 26, 09, 21:48 / #
Cześć! My first post on this forum is a bit unusual, though I have spent many hours happily reading through discussions on here. I am learning Polish at the moment. Of course I enjoy frequent familiar curse words, though I am attempting a greater fluency than just that. However I get a bit stuck on this wonderful sounding word so satisfying to cry at the end of a day's work! My confusion is about the simple etymology of the word. Whereas most swears in most languages are evidently referring to hmm, various biological and sexual functions, I can't seem to work out where it comes from, or more importantly what it is about the word that makes it a 'coarse' or 'RUDE!' word!? Can anybody enlighten me? Z góry dziękuję za pomoc. :-)

BartolomeThreads: 2 Posts: 1,345 Joined: Sep 14, 06	Oct 26, 09, 22:01 / #
Simply it's because it derives from the word 'zajebać', which means 'to fu(king kill sb'.

SzwedwPolsceThreads: 13 Posts: 1,915 Joined: Feb 21, 09	Edited by: SzwedwPolsce Oct 26, 09, 22:26 / #
Zajebać and jebać are different words. But if you look at the verb (zajebać) corresponding to the adverb zajebiście (or adjective zajebisty), you see that the stem is the same as in jebać (fuck). This can be one of the reasons why you can translate for example zajebista piosenka as "fucking great song". But it's kind of vulgar.

BondiThreads: 4 Posts: 148 Joined: Sep 11, 07	Oct 26, 09, 22:27 / #
"Over-f.ckingness." :) The root is j.bać, to f.ck. In the context, it's quite similar to the English unbe-f.cking-lievable, for instance. :) "F.cking great" etc.

Pan Zuk GnojowyThreads: 7 Posts: 27 Joined: Oct 26, 09	Oct 26, 09, 22:27 / #
zajebingo! Thanks! Although I could be awkward and ask how zajebać comes to mean f***ing kill sb, as opposed to just 'to kill sb..' ;-)

SzwedwPolsceThreads: 13 Posts: 1,915 Joined: Feb 21, 09	Edited by: SzwedwPolsce Oct 26, 09, 22:29 / #
Pan Zuk Gnojowy: how zajebać comes to mean f***ing kill sb, as opposed to just 'to kill sb..' Because it's vulgar. And the normal way to say "to kill somebody" is completely different, and has nothing to do with zajebać. But it's important to remember that zajebisce/zajebisty can have a positive meaning, like in "zajebista piosenka" (fucking great song).

pgtxThreads: 49 Posts: 6,327 Joined: Feb 14, 09 MEMBER	Oct 26, 09, 22:32 / #
Pan Zuk Gnojowy: Pan Zuk Gnojowy very cool nickname, Mr. Żuczku...

Pan Zuk GnojowyThreads: 7 Posts: 27 Joined: Oct 26, 09	Edited by: Pan Zuk Gnojowy Oct 26, 09, 22:57 / #
Thank you for your replies! I feel a lot better now. It's true, I never had noticed the 'jeb' root in the word as if the Zaje and the biscie had felt like the significant elements, I understand much better now. And pgtx, thanks ;)... gówno jest dobrze ale wolę gnój

SzwedwPolsceThreads: 13 Posts: 1,915 Joined: Feb 21, 09	Edited by: SzwedwPolsce Oct 26, 09, 23:01 / #
Pan Zuk Gnojowy: Zaje and the biscie Even Zajeb as a "stem". Or jeb if you correspond it to jebać (to fuck).

BzibziohThreads: 6 Posts: 3,657 Joined: Oct 15, 08 [Suspended]	Oct 26, 09, 23:04 / #
Pan Zuk Gnojowy: muzik uliczny....i fabryczny malpa Uliczny muzykant i fabryczna małpa ... that's very original occupation I must say :)

learn polishThreads: 2 Posts: 71 Joined: Oct 15, 09	Oct 27, 09, 16:25 / #
Bzibzioh muzik uliczny....i fabryczny malpa Uliczny muzykant i fabryczna małpa ... that's very original occupation I must say :) Doesn't "fabryczny" refer to "muzyk"? Ie. The "muzyk" is both "uliczny i fabryczny", and "malpa" is just... ekhm, well... there.

BzibziohThreads: 6 Posts: 3,657 Joined: Oct 15, 08 [Suspended]	Oct 27, 09, 17:46 / #
learn polish: Doesn't "fabryczny" refer to "muzyk"? Ie. The "muzyk" is both "uliczny i fabryczny", and "malpa" is just... ekhm, well... there. Muzyk (or muzykant) uliczny means a street musician. Małpa fabryczna means (sarcastically) a factory worker.

frdThreads: 8 Posts: 1,956 Joined: Feb 3, 09	Oct 27, 09, 17:49 / #
Bzibzioh: Małpa fabryczna That's the first time I see such monster.. where did you take it from? I don't think this combination of words is used at all.

BzibziohThreads: 6 Posts: 3,657 Joined: Oct 15, 08 [Suspended]	Edited by: Bzibzioh Oct 27, 09, 17:55 / #
frd: That's the first time I see such monster.. where did you take it from? I don't think this combination of words is used at all. Are you Pan Zuk Gnojowy? frd: I don't think this combination of words is used at all. Well, it's creative and witty.

frdThreads: 8 Posts: 1,956 Joined: Feb 3, 09	Oct 27, 09, 18:55 / #
Bzibzioh: Well, it's creative and witty. Heh, sorry for suspecting you anyways, I don't think it's very creative nor that it is witty. It's just a random imaginary couple of words glued together.. you could put anything in there.. Beside I didn't see that guy using these words "małpa fabryczna"...

BzibziohThreads: 6 Posts: 3,657 Joined: Oct 15, 08 [Suspended]	Oct 27, 09, 21:47 / #
frd: Beside I didn't see that guy using these words "małpa fabryczna"... It's in his profile under 'occupation'.

esekThreads: 5 Posts: 269 Joined: Jun 3, 08	Edited by: esek Oct 27, 09, 22:14 / #
zajebać has also another meaning... zajebać coś - to steal sth edit: it's vulgar.... as said before.

frdThreads: 8 Posts: 1,956 Joined: Feb 3, 09	Oct 27, 09, 22:19 / #
esek: zajebać coś - to steal sth zajebać komuś / jebnąć komuś/kogoś - hit/punch somebody

Pan Zuk GnojowyThreads: 7 Posts: 27 Joined: Oct 26, 09	Oct 28, 09, 01:04 / #
Hallo again. Moj nowa znajoma Bzibzioh ma 'nail on head' :) / masz recję. Mam tego dosyć ten okupacje, tylko jakoś trzymam się bo ucycz się mówić po polsku...

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Edited by: Bzibzioh Oct 28, 09, 01:35 / #

Pan Zuk Gnojowy:

Hallo again. Moj nowa znajoma Bzibzioh ma 'nail on head' :) / masz recję. Mam tego dosyć ten okupacje, tylko jakoś trzymam się bo ucycz się mówić po polsku...

Something like that?

Pan Zuk GnojowyThreads: 7 Posts: 27 Joined: Oct 26, 09	Oct 28, 09, 01:48 / #
now yer talking....PROSZĘ NISZCZĄ FABRYKA!!! / 'Witam W Piekła'....i . t . d ty wiesz. Can we now divert this thread's etymological curse busting magnifying glass to that handy phrase? (Pierre $ )

BzibziohThreads: 6 Posts: 3,657 Joined: Oct 15, 08 [Suspended]	Oct 28, 09, 01:54 / #
Pan Zuk Gnojowy: Can we now divert this thread's etymological curse busting magnifying glass to that handy phrase? (Pierre $ ) Could be translated as: Fu.ck work.

Pan Zuk GnojowyThreads: 7 Posts: 27 Joined: Oct 26, 09	Oct 28, 09, 02:06 / #
wiem wiem... not a day goes by without at least 3 'pierdolenierobie's for this fabryczna małpa. However, I realised that I'm not certain the deeper meaning or origin of 'pierdolę' either!. i tend to use it like 'ah, sod it' 'to hell with that'

BzibziohThreads: 6 Posts: 3,657 Joined: Oct 15, 08 [Suspended]	Edited by: Bzibzioh Oct 28, 09, 02:15 / #
Pan Zuk Gnojowy: i tend to use it like 'ah, sod it' 'to hell with that' Not really deeper meaning than that! LOL Where do you work?

Pan Zuk GnojowyThreads: 7 Posts: 27 Joined: Oct 26, 09	Oct 28, 09, 02:37 / #
Sure, sure. I'm just trying to understand the mechanics of it... na dole, means downstairs right? Pier, i can think Piekło,..Pies..(s)pierdalej..pierd. I always thought it must be one of either 'to the dogs' or 'to hell. Am I getting close?

BzibziohThreads: 6 Posts: 3,657 Joined: Oct 15, 08 [Suspended]	Oct 28, 09, 03:24 / #
Pan Zuk Gnojowy: na dole, means downstairs right? Yes. Pan Zuk Gnojowy: Pier, i can think Piekło,..Pies..(s)pierdalej..pierd. Pierdolić=to fu.ck, also: talking nonsense Piekło=hell Pies=dog Spierdalaj=fu.ck off

Pan Zuk GnojowyThreads: 7 Posts: 27 Joined: Oct 26, 09	Oct 28, 09, 04:51 / #
Pierdolić.... ok, that clears things up somewhat! it's its own verb. I knew the meanings of the rest, I was attempting to formulate the word from them. Ie - dogdownstairs..etc :) you missed off 'Pierd' ;)

learn polishThreads: 2 Posts: 71 Joined: Oct 15, 09	Oct 30, 09, 16:42 / #
Muzyk (or muzykant) uliczny means a street musician. Małpa fabryczna means (sarcastically) a factory worker. Yeah, I know, I'm Polish :) it's just that I saw a different syntactic connection there. you missed off 'Pierd' ;) pierd = a fart

Lyzko	Oct 31, 09, 14:42 / #
'Bąk' is a close synonym for 'fart', isn't it?

esekThreads: 5 Posts: 269 Joined: Jun 3, 08	Oct 31, 09, 17:34 / #
Lyzko: 'Bąk' is a close synonym for 'fart', isn't it? yes

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