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A couple of pronunciations...Przemyśl,Rzeszów,Tarnawce



escapee3Threads: 15
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  Oct 30, 09, 20:52 /  #
Dzień Dobry

What's the pronunciation of the following town names? Am I close?

Przemyśl

Shem-shil (or is that 'y' sounded too?)


Rzeszów

She-show (with the 'o' as in the English word 'town')


Tarnawce

Tah-nah-v-ts


I want to talk to an English, non-Polish speaking person about these places (so I can get away with winging it!) but I'd like to get them right. I'm not yet confident in my ability to pronounce words I've not yet heard spoken - but I'm working on it.

Dziękuję

steve

piaskowyThreads: -
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Edited by: piaskowy   Oct 31, 09, 11:57 /  #
I'm from Przemyśl!

Przemyśl - Pshem-i ("y" sound)-shl, but the second "sh" is pronunced "ś".
Rzeszów - Shesh-ouf, but the first "sh" is a specific polish sound - "ż".
Tarnawce - Tar-nav-tse pronunced with polish "r".

If you knew how to read, you wouldn't have any problems with these names.
escapee3Threads: 15
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  Oct 31, 09, 13:47 /  #
Thanks for that.

Of course, I agree with the reading statement, and it's something I'm working on. At the moment I'm only a week or so into learning Polish, so I have my work cut out just making coherent sounds without reading as such. But, I'm happy I see progress even after so short a time.

Can I ask you what you know about Tarnawce? It's where my father-in-law was born, and my plan to visit there late next year is my reason for learning Polish.

Thanks again for the reply...

steve
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Edited by: piaskowy   Oct 31, 09, 17:43 /  #
Well... I don't know much, Tarnawce is (actually "are" because it's a plural name) a small village near Przemyśl.

EDIT
But you can visit Krasiczyn - there is a beautiful castle!
escapee3Threads: 15
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  Oct 31, 09, 18:51 /  #
I'll make a note of the castle... I do like visiting such places.

Is it usual for single towns to be given plural names in Poland?

steve
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Edited by: jakubzurawski   Nov 1, 09, 12:28 /  #
escapee3
Is it usual for single towns to be given plural names in Poland?

Yes, it is quite common for a village/town to have a plural name. Those names often end with "ce" ending (like "Radoszyce", "Maurzyce", "Gorzkowice") but there are also names which don't follow this rule ("Szczuki", "Surowe"). I can't think of any city with a plural name but most likely there are some.

Also you need to be aware of the gender of the name. "Rzeszów" and "Przemyśl" are names of masculine gender (to be more precise - 'inanimate masculine', there are 3 subtypes of masculine in Polish) while "Warszawa" is feminine and "Legionowo" or "Piaseczno" are neuter.
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  Nov 1, 09, 15:37 /  #
Interesting, jakubzurawski, thank you. The more one delves into Polish, the more there is to learn.

steve
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  Nov 1, 09, 19:09 /  #
The more one delves into Polish, the more there is to learn.

Yope, that's right.

I can't think of any city with a plural name but most likely there are some.

Katowice, Skierniewice, Dąbki!

Now the funny ones - Kozie Wólki and Wielkie Oczy (both of them DO exist).

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