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Polish Case System

dannyboyThreads: 24 Posts: 298 Joined: Feb 15, 07	Edited by: dannyboy Feb 21, 07, 10:15 / #
Howdely doodely, I realize I may be asking the impossible, but could somebody either post a link to, or else a breakdown of the polish case system. I have many books and there is no 1 resource where the whole system is summed up into a diagram. My girlfriend gets annoyed whenever I ask her even a word in polish so I know she won't teach it to me, she may help me to understand if I have some diagram to follow however. Appreciate any help

MarekThreads: 4 Posts: 1,120 Joined: Feb 15, 07	Feb 21, 07, 13:38 / #
Well, I can try. masculine sing. masc. pl. (table) Nom. stól stoly Gen. stolu stolów Dat. stolu stolom Akk. stól stoly Lok. stole stolach Instr. stolem stolami Vok. stól! stoly feminine sing. (book) feminine pl. Nom. ksiazka ksiazki Gen. ksiazki ksiazek Dat. ksiazce ksiazkom Akk. ksiazke ksiazki Lok. ksiazce ksiazkach Instr. ksiazka ksiazkami Vok. ksiazko! ksiazki neuter sing. (state, Mr. & Mrs.) Nom. panstwo panstwa Gen. panstwa panstw Dat. panstwu panstwom Akk. panstwo panstwo Lok. panstwu panstwach Instr. panstwem panstwami Vok. panstwo! panstwo This is merely a mmost random sampler of only a very few common nouns. A full list of the others (including the exceptions to the exceptions???!!) Until another post! Marek

MarekThreads: 4 Posts: 1,120 Joined: Feb 15, 07	Feb 21, 07, 13:38 / #
The plurals never appeared!!! Sorry. Must be my pc. M.

dannyboyThreads: 24 Posts: 298 Joined: Feb 15, 07	Feb 22, 07, 04:20 / #
thats exactly the kind of thing I was looking for, fantastic, dziekuje bardzo

MarekThreads: 4 Posts: 1,120 Joined: Feb 15, 07	Feb 22, 07, 07:29 / #
Prosze bardzo! Your welcome, DannyBoy. Again, it is BY NO MEANS complete. It should though give you a slight intro. Don't blame your girlfriend for being recalcitrant, by the way. In college, I knew a Hungarian coed while I was teaching myself some of that language. Although she and I were friends (not romantically involved at the time, however!), she consistently balked at attempts to answer my sundry questions. Sometimes native speakers feel embarrassed by their own lack of non knowledge. I didn't included adjectives in the chart. Below's only a brief taste: masc. "maly stól" (small table) N maly stól male stoly G malego stolu malych stolów D malemu stolu malym stolom A maly stól maly stoly L malym stole malych stolach I malym stolem malymi stolami V maly stól male stoly To be continued, I'm sure! Marek

MarekThreads: 4 Posts: 1,120 Joined: Feb 15, 07	Feb 22, 07, 13:24 / #
Hi again, DannyBoy! Regrettably, I have no Polish ligatures/key signs on my keypad, that can be fatal in terms of reproducing Polish words accurately My "list" (for lack of a better word!) did not even begin to include the confusing masculine nouns, e.g. "mezczyzna", "kolega" etc...., with feminine "a"-endings but masculine declensions!! For another time. Marek

Biluś	Jan 3, 08, 10:57 / #
Hi Dannyboy, It's nearly a year ago now that you requested some help with cases - but I've just seen it, so anyway, you might find my new blog useful. It's only just started, but I intend to develop it as a generally available resource as I stumble along learning Polish :-) Anyway, you can find it by googling 'learn polish with bilus blogspot' (I wasn't allowed to post the url here) - and I'd love to hear from you or anybody else who's learning or helping people to learn and might have some great ideas to share! Cheers, Biluś

LadyThreads: - Posts: 7 Joined: Jan 5, 08	Jan 5, 08, 23:05 / #
OK, I know. It was year ago, but please. Nom. stól stoły Gen. stołu stołów Dat. stołowi stołom (stołowi a nie stołu O.o) Akk. stół stoły Lok. stołem, stołami Instr. stole, stołach Vok. stole! stoły People, think before write. Maybe, I didn't write correctly, but Mark made amazing mistakes :\|

MichalThreads: - Posts: 2,408 Joined: Feb 27, 07	Edited by: Michal Jan 6, 08, 08:06 / #
Lady wrote: People, think before write. Maybe, I didn't write correctly, but Mark made amazing mistakes :\| Everybody on this forum makes mistakes and that is how we learn. However, ja dojdę do stołu albo ja idę ku stołowi does indeed seem better Polish.

LadyThreads: - Posts: 7 Joined: Jan 5, 08	Jan 6, 08, 14:30 / #
Michal, I know. And I make mistakes too. But, if you want help someone, you have to (or just should) be sure. Does it any sense, if you give someone something wrong?

MarekThreads: 4 Posts: 1,120 Joined: Feb 15, 07	Jan 7, 08, 09:35 / #
Michał, I remember hearing from Polish speakers at various consulary functions: "Prośimy Państwa! Prośimy gości do stołu!" Presumably, they were speaking correct Polish. Far be it from, at best an advanced intermediate non-native such as myself, to correct a native speaker's Polish.

z_dariusThreads: 22 Posts: 5,091 Joined: Oct 18, 07	Jan 7, 08, 09:43 / #
Michal wrote: ja dojdę do stołu albo ja idę ku stołowi does indeed seem better Polish. That sounds like weird Polish. Both are grammatically correct. Neither has any significant use in everyday Polish. "Ku" in general is falling out of grace. It is used mostly by the older generations of Poles, and those younger Polish speakers who live abroad and know Polish from their grandparents. The natural collocations here would be: - podejść do stołu - przyjść do stołu Marek's suggestions are also correct and frequent.

EvanescentBlooThreads: 1 Posts: 2 Joined: May 28, 09	Edited by: EvanescentBloo May 28, 09, 03:03 / #
Thread attached on merging: Polish Case and Case use? I took an interest in teaching myself Polish for around 2 months now.. I know the Alphabet and how to pronounce things dicently correct. But there is just one thing that seems to be bothering me a little bit. The Cases. I know there are 7 Polish Grammar Cases Nominative, Genetive, Accusative, Dative, Instrumental, Locative, Vocative It just makes me wonder, how do you use each case? I attempted ALOT of research on Google. But no luck.

BabinichThreads: 1 Posts: 1,054 Joined: May 26, 08	May 28, 09, 03:24 / #
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