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Rule for determining of Polish adjectives?



spell of bliss   Oct 13, 06, 18:42 /  #
can sum1 explain 2 me the rule for determining whether or not an adjective is supposed to follow or precede a noun?
KowalskiThreads: 12
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procede - in most cases
spell of bliss   Oct 13, 06, 18:56 /  #
ok seems like it. but y is it after in zwiadek radziecki? or stany zjednoczone? or uniwersytet jagellonski? or bitwa stalingradzka etc.?
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dzien dobry also . you have the noun first
spell of bliss   Oct 13, 06, 19:51 /  #
thats true. but y? wat is the reason?
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im not sure . ? but i'll find out for you ok
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plg:
im not sure . ? but i'll find out for you ok

Hey plg,

This guy is still waiting ;)

I am too now...

:)
gumishu   Mar 19, 09, 16:17 /  #
if you are to describe something (a quality) then it's mostly in front of the noun

postposition is when there's a new distinct notion (name) created with the adjective added
(often the case in science) - biały orzeł is different to orzeł biały
Biały orzeł is simply some white eagle.
Orzeł biały - is the (official) name of Polish national symbol.

Przedni orzeł - would be some excellent eagle
Orzeł przedni - is a name of a species (as in Latin Aquila sth ;)

but
pyszny obiad - delicious lunch
and obiad pyszny would make sense only if it were obiad 'Pyszny' - a name of some specific course (or lunch set) (there is no such thing to my knowlegde tho)
gumishu   Mar 19, 09, 16:27 /  #
zjedonoczone stany are some states that are united (especially not considered as some specific entity)

Stany Zjednoczone - is an entity (isn't it)

tho there were some other Stany Zjednoczone before (Estados Unidos do Brasil for instance) - but then these were also entities

Stany Zjednoczone Brazylii - name of a federal state
zjednoczone stany Brazylii - those states of Brasil that are united (when there are some out of the agreement)
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