Anger over Bielski detachment film

Anger over Bielski detachment filmThe Guardian, Wednesday 11 March 2009 Article historyIt is an outrage that the Bielski brothers continue to be smeared by baseless allegations airing in the Polish press (Jewish resistance film sparks Polish anger, 5 March). The suggestion that these Jewish heroes of the Holocaust "turned to pillaging, murder and rape", is so outlandish and erroneous that it causes the mind to reel. Where is the evidence? The further suggestion that Tuvia Bielski was a "drunk and womaniser" is an odd one - how could a drunken carouser save 1,200 Jews from the Nazis in the midst of a genocidal campaign of world-historical proportions? (And what does it matter anyway?)

The "allegation" that the Bielski unit participated in a joint operation with the Soviets to wipe out Polish anti-communist units - and that Tuvia Bielski may have helped the Soviets find a Polish underground leader - is hardly surprising. The Bielskis were fighting on the side of the Soviet Union and some Polish outfits were not. They were enemies in a war for survival.
Peter Duffy
Author, The Bielski Brothers
Jack Kagan
Member, Bielski partisan detachment

This embassy has been in touch with Defiance's only distributor in Poland, Monolith Plus, and we have been told that this film has not experienced any form of booing, let alone been banned by any cinemas. While the historical accuracy of the film is debatable, the film itself bears no association with Poland whatsoever - be this in linguistic terms (German and Russian phrases appear frequently throughout the film) or geographical references.
Robert Szaniawski
Press counsellor, Polish embassy

celinskiThreads: 83 Posts: 2,800 Joined: Nov 14, 07	Mar 12, 09, 12:37 / #
I could not beleive this from the producer of Defiance. From denial to "(And what does it matter anyway?") I guess to Holocaust studies it matters. Openly admitting to killing Polish and in a "war for survival" does he know they were from Poland and ran from the woods to kill Polish families, children, burn them within homes. But they were with the Soviets. Wonder if he knows that Soviets turned on Jewish when all was said and done? Anger over Bielski detachment film Anger over Bielski detachment filmThe Guardian, Wednesday 11 March 2009 Article historyIt is an outrage that the Bielski brothers continue to be smeared by baseless allegations airing in the Polish press (Jewish resistance film sparks Polish anger, 5 March). The suggestion that these Jewish heroes of the Holocaust "turned to pillaging, murder and rape", is so outlandish and erroneous that it causes the mind to reel. Where is the evidence? The further suggestion that Tuvia Bielski was a "drunk and womaniser" is an odd one - how could a drunken carouser save 1,200 Jews from the Nazis in the midst of a genocidal campaign of world-historical proportions? (And what does it matter anyway?) The "allegation" that the Bielski unit participated in a joint operation with the Soviets to wipe out Polish anti-communist units - and that Tuvia Bielski may have helped the Soviets find a Polish underground leader - is hardly surprising. The Bielskis were fighting on the side of the Soviet Union and some Polish outfits were not. They were enemies in a war for survival. Peter Duffy Author, The Bielski Brothers Jack Kagan Member, Bielski partisan detachment This embassy has been in touch with Defiance's only distributor in Poland, Monolith Plus, and we have been told that this film has not experienced any form of booing, let alone been banned by any cinemas. While the historical accuracy of the film is debatable, the film itself bears no association with Poland whatsoever - be this in linguistic terms (German and Russian phrases appear frequently throughout the film) or geographical references. Robert Szaniawski Press counsellor, Polish embassy http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/mar/11/bielski-poland-film

SokratesThreads: 19 Posts: 4,464 Joined: Jan 19, 09 [Suspended]	Mar 12, 09, 17:13 / #
Fucking disgrace, murderers and bandits sold as heroes, we should dig untill we find some grounds on which to sue this little dipshit as well as forward the film to our media to rip it apart. Soon we will get a movie where heroic Jewish NKVD officers murdered our civilians in self defence.

Polonius3Threads: 1,005 Posts: 4,833 Joined: Apr 11, 08	Mar 14, 09, 17:17 / #
Long live Berman, Fejgin, Romkowski, Brystygier, Wolińska, Różański, Michnik, Morel and the many other "chosen ones"!

HarryThreads: 62 Posts: 8,508 Joined: May 2, 07 [Suspended]	Mar 16, 09, 09:47 / #
Sokrates: Fucking disgrace, murderers and bandits sold as heroes, we should dig untill we find some grounds on which to sue this little dipshit as well as forward the film to our media to rip it apart. Why not do what you did to me? Report the man for the crime of insulting the Polish nation. Which reminds me, the police still haven't come to drag me off in chains. How long did you say it took "last time we nailed someone"? Oh yes, in http://www.polishforums.com/responsibility_murder_catholic-34_28133_0. html#msg631028 you said it was 23 days and you reported me on February 22, so that was 22 days ago. Guess I should be expecting a knock on the door any day now.

SokratesThreads: 19 Posts: 4,464 Joined: Jan 19, 09 [Suspended]	Mar 17, 09, 16:28 / #
I suspect you'd like to be friends with people who made that movie Harry, then you could all burn a Polish flag and be happy little hobbits :)