George8600: Dzerzhinsky off the list, he was a self hating Pole, administered the Katyn Massacre into action and monitored it
Are you for real? He died in 1926, Katyn happened in 1940 how could he administer this massacre and monitor it? He was dead for 14 years.
George8600: to purge certain foreign ethnic gorups-one being Poles) until Stalin the Poles deported.
Now here's an oxymoron, Poles deported themselves to Russian far east.
George8600: He was a criminal in Poland and was put in the Warsaw Political Crimes Prison, until it was bombed by the Russians in 1935 and he escaped.
Once again we have a miracle on our hands, shall I remind you one more time He died in1926 in Moscow. Dzerzhinsky served several prison terms, the last time he was serving his prison term as a political prisoner was in one of Moscow's Prisons. BTW he never escaped, he was released from there when Tsar abdicated, that was in 1917.
George8600: Other thank Poles, being the leader of the NKVD, he monitored the starvation of over 3 millions to 7 million innocent Ukrainians in the Stalinist famines of 1937,
Once again he was dead, dead, dead as a doornail by this time in history. Black Famine in Ukraine happened in 1932-33, this happened 6 years after he died. Yes he was a Pole by ethnicity but he was first and foremost a Russian Communist born and raised in part of Poland that was under Tsarist Russian control therefore a citizen of Russia. What are you trying to say here? That it was not the Russian communists and Stalin himself that were responsible for the famine in Ukraine but somehow Poles were involved?Even if you are making this connection here through Dzerzhinsky because of his ethnicity forgetting everything else you know about the man, like I said he was long dead before this happened.
George8600: requested HIMSELF that the dog tags of many red army soldiers be pulled off to make the unidentifiable to the Germans and so lower casualties could be supported (no country in the history of mankind has treated their war dead like this), likewise he aslo ordered NKVD officers to shoot and kill any Russian soldiers whom were seen retreating or surrendering. I also got his pre-NKVD history off of an encyclopedia here:
Here you are talking about the events that happened during WWII, once again long after his death, so how did he “requested HIMSELF”? As you put it. Perhaps it's not the fault of the source that you try to learn your history from but your reading comprehension skills that fail you.
George8600: Soviet leader Vladimir Lenin regarded Dzerzhinsky as a revolutionary hero, and appointed him to organize a force to combat internal political threats.
Other than the fact that they were both fighting for the same cause Lenin and Dzerzhinsky rarely
saw eye to eye on many issues. His appointment came about not because Lenin liked him or even admired him but simply because he was one of the powerful grass root leaders of the communist movement and as such he could not have been ignored or overlooked by Lenin. It's obvious you learned your history in Russia or Ukraine during the Soviet times. What's couple of years this way or that way? It's around the same time so what's the difference? I had enough, no more, please.
Just checked the profile, your a Yank, this explains it all.
The title of the thread is Famous Polish Russians.
Is he Polish? Is he Russian? Is he famous? SO why you want him off the list? He was an SOB, we all know that, be it good or bad it dose not matter he fits the title. You on the other hand have to learn a great deal.
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