Farewell of Slavianka - who is able to understand Poles ?

ConstantineK:

What? Do you say that this ersatz-song dose not contain even a word about Russia? Do you understand that exactly this fact serves a perfect prove of its Russofobic context? It might have meant only one thing! Those who sing it, has ani-Russian, cruel intentions in mind!

BorrkaThreads: 49 Posts: 770 Joined: Apr 25, 08	Edited by: Borrka Nov 9, 09, 16:50 / #
Look at this video clip, listen to this great music: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3XywSEhJ1mI&NR=1&feature=fvwp "Farewell of Slavianka" is a Russian march composed by Vasily Agapkin just before ww1. Melody and very patriotic or rather nationalistic lyrics became an unofficial anthem of Kolchak's White Army. Even Soviets decided to use the composition for propaganda 1941 (having on the beginning some problems with its "czarist" roots). As far everything easy to understand. Now we have to use YouTube again: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qXT7DwpsG8Q "Rozszumialy sie wierzby placzace" was a favorite march of the anti-communist and anti-Russian Polish Home Army (AK). It was adopted for Polish partisans already after Katyn crime, with some new lyrics but being fully aware of its Russian imperialistic background. Even me, Borrka, visiting Russian glubinka use to ask the local band to play Proshchanye Slovianki for me. But first after several drinks and being in highly patriotic mood lol.

CrowThreads: 367 Posts: 7,316 Joined: Feb 14, 07 [Suspended]	Edited by: Crow Nov 9, 09, 17:51 / #
Borrka Thank you. Borrka: Even me, Borrka, visiting Russian glubinka use to ask the local band to play Proshchanye Slovianki for me. But first after several drinks and being in highly patriotic mood lol. i understand you. Absolutely and completely. i deeply admire to your Polish spirit. no, EU wouldn`t be a mother. Never

ConstantineKThreads: 35 Posts: 1,949 Joined: May 10, 07	Nov 10, 09, 08:55 / #
Borrka: Even me, Borrka, visiting Russian glubinka use to ask the local band to play Proshchanye Slovianki for me. But first after several drinks and being in highly patriotic mood lol. Ohhh, I can imagine this picturesque scene..... One thing I cannot understand, why you are still alive? These Russian provincial bands, knowing what are you singing inwardly to the accompaniment of their patriotic music, might have picked you up on pitchfork...

gumishuThreads: 17 Posts: 3,943 Joined: Apr 6, 09	Nov 10, 09, 10:15 / #
ConstantineK: One thing I cannot understand, why you are still alive? These Russian provincial bands, knowing what are you singing inwardly to the accompaniment of their patriotic music, might have picked you up on pitchfork... well - even if they new the text they wouldn't mind singing it - cause it is in no way anti Russian - there is actually no mention of Russia/ns in the text, neither there is of Germans, communist etc - I recommend you get a translation of it the only thing is that the song was popular among the AK by the way I like the original song even better - after all it has been written to the melody of Russian language

ConstantineKThreads: 35 Posts: 1,949 Joined: May 10, 07	Edited by: ConstantineK Nov 10, 09, 15:39 / #
gumishu: well - even if they new the text they wouldn't mind singing it - cause it is in no way anti Russian - there is actually no mention of Russia/ns in the text What? Do you say that this ersatz-song dose not contain even a word about Russia? Do you understand that exactly this fact serves a perfect prove of its Russofobic context? It might have meant only one thing! Those who sing it, has ani-Russian, cruel intentions in mind!

gumishuThreads: 17 Posts: 3,943 Joined: Apr 6, 09	Nov 10, 09, 17:11 / #
ConstantineK: What? Do you say that this ersatz-song dose not contain even a word about Russia? Do you understand that exactly this fact serves a perfect prove of its Russofobic context? It might have meant only one thing! Those who sing it, has ani-Russian, cruel intentions in mind! you really should get a translation

ConstantineKThreads: 35 Posts: 1,949 Joined: May 10, 07	Nov 10, 09, 18:30 / #
gumishu: you really should get a translation No, no....I don't need it, please spare me of your barbarous polish imitations, otherwise I can be touched and shall recognase in Poles, human beings equal to divine and godlike Russians! No way!

Mr GrunwaldThreads: 34 Posts: 2,358 Joined: Dec 16, 08	Nov 10, 09, 19:18 / #
ConstantineK: please spare me of your barbarous polish imitations I would rather be proud someone trying to "copy" something from my own culture, for instance the Jugoslavias anthem. Allmost identical as the Polish one!

CrowThreads: 367 Posts: 7,316 Joined: Feb 14, 07 [Suspended]	Edited by: Crow Nov 10, 09, 19:18 / #
ah those Russians Mr Grunwald: I would rather be proud someone trying to "copy" something from my own culture, for instance the Jugoslavias anthem. Allmost identical as the Polish one! in a circles of ultimate and true Polish elite Serbia and Yugoslavia- that was created in 1918 was seen as realm of old Polish warlords/kings and embrio of future southern Poland`s territory (read part of Great Sarmatia). Serbs were key Polish player in this but, German (Croatia) and Turkish (Muslims of Bosnia and Kosovo Albanians) elements inside of Yugoslavia destablized country. Germany then managed to move complete EU/NATO (which culmination was in 1999) against Serbs and defeated them.

CrowThreads: 367 Posts: 7,316 Joined: Feb 14, 07 [Suspended]	Edited by: Crow Nov 10, 09, 19:39 / #
one more patriotic Russian song Tatu - Yugoslavia Russians seams can`t nor forget, nor forgive what NATO did to Yugoslavia and Serbia interesting Ekaterina Shelehova, 12 years old - Farewell of Slavianka

BorrkaThreads: 49 Posts: 770 Joined: Apr 25, 08	Nov 10, 09, 20:12 / #
ConstantineK: It's much batter of realizing each morning that you are Pole during whole life! Ah Kostik, even don't try to hide away your true feelings, you wannabe Pole !

ConstantineKThreads: 35 Posts: 1,949 Joined: May 10, 07	Nov 10, 09, 20:24 / #
Borrka: Ah Kostik, even don't try to hide away your true feelings, you wannabe Pole ! Sure, I want. For instance, I have a dog, his name is "Dar" (Gift). In any case I don't want to be a dog generally, but in the morning, you will not believe me, I am jealous of his profound sleep...Each morning I want to be a dog...the same is with my desire to be Pole.

CrowThreads: 367 Posts: 7,316 Joined: Feb 14, 07 [Suspended]	Nov 10, 09, 20:27 / #
Borrka: Poor kid...only 12 of age and already Russian ... ConstantineK: It's much batter of realizing each morning that you are Pole during whole life! ahaha hahah hhaha hha i have no words. You are all crazy Borrka: Ah Kostik, even don't try to hide away your true feelings, you wannabe Pole ! well, possible as you probably heard, by genetic science Russians originate from Polish population.

BorrkaThreads: 49 Posts: 770 Joined: Apr 25, 08	Nov 10, 09, 20:36 / #
Crow: as you probably heard, by genetic science Russians originate from Polish population. From now I will address Kostik "my little brother".

BorrkaThreads: 49 Posts: 770 Joined: Apr 25, 08	Nov 10, 09, 19:52 / #
Crow: katerina Shelehova, 12 years old - Farewell of Slavianka Poor kid...only 12 of age and already Russian ...

ConstantineKThreads: 35 Posts: 1,949 Joined: May 10, 07	Nov 10, 09, 20:03 / #
Borrka: Poor kid...only 12 of age and already Russian ... It's much batter of realizing each morning that you are Pole during whole life!

TorqThreads: 65 Posts: 4,024 Joined: Apr 10, 09 MEMBER	Edited by: Torq Nov 10, 09, 20:34 / #
Crow: Russians seams can`t nor forget, nor forgive what NATO did to Yugoslavia and Serbia Yugoslavia was OK - a strong Slavic country in the south. Much better than all those tiny statelets that are there now :( However, as far as I remember Russia didn't do much to stop NATO from bombing Serbia and prevent the dismantling of Yugoslavia. Or did they do anything substantial?

ConstantineKThreads: 35 Posts: 1,949 Joined: May 10, 07	Nov 10, 09, 20:39 / #
Torq: Serbia and prevent the dismantling of Yugoslavia. Or did they do anything substantial? We are doing, even now, much more than Serbia itself. We will never recognise Kosovo as independent state; though I don' have the same assurance concerning Serbia

CrowThreads: 367 Posts: 7,316 Joined: Feb 14, 07 [Suspended]	Edited by: Crow Nov 10, 09, 20:49 / #
Borrka: From now I will address Kostik "my little brother". listen, that would be correct. Its a scientific fact ConstantineK: We are doing, even now, much more than Serbia itself. We will never recognise Kosovo as independent state; though I don' have the same assurance concerning Serbia Serbia is now satelite dominion of NATO, under occupation. Soon, EU would anex us. So, what you expect? Russians didn`t come to help us. Russia prefered peace with `German reich and friends`. Then, first time in history, Poles arrived on the Turkish and German side. What should Serbs do now? Later, some Gavrilo Princip would arise, again. No doubts about that. One day

ConstantineKThreads: 35 Posts: 1,949 Joined: May 10, 07	Nov 10, 09, 20:55 / #
Crow: Later, some Gavrilo Princip would arise, again. No doubts about that. One day He-he.....And who will be his victim?

CrowThreads: 367 Posts: 7,316 Joined: Feb 14, 07 [Suspended]	Nov 10, 09, 21:23 / #
ConstantineK: He-he.....And who will be his victim? some degeneric for sure

SashaThreads: 2 Posts: 1,597 Joined: Apr 19, 08	Nov 10, 09, 22:06 / #
ConstantineK: And who will be his victim? prince obama. :) Borrka: Poor kid...only 12 of age and already Russian ... Ha-ha... good1 :)) well... being Russia is a diagnosis in a way. Boria is there a translation of your song anywhere? Torq: However, as far as I remember Russia didn't do much to stop NATO from bombing Serbia and prevent the dismantling of Yugoslavia. Or did they do anything substantial? They fed Serbs with promises of sending S-300 (anti-aircraft missile complex). Of course they didn't send them, that would be a suicide.

ConstantineKThreads: 35 Posts: 1,949 Joined: May 10, 07	Nov 10, 09, 22:33 / #
Sasha: prince obama. :) mmmm, small correction in the name of historical objectivity; not prince, but archduke....

BorrkaThreads: 49 Posts: 770 Joined: Apr 25, 08	Nov 11, 09, 00:06 / #
Sasha, bad Yanks don't like postings in Russian. Check your PM pls.

SeanusThreads: 22 Posts: 30,158 Joined: Dec 25, 07	Nov 11, 09, 01:01 / #
CK, Bob Dylan said it very well in his song, 'The Times, they are a' Changin', when he said "don't criticise what you can't understand". Do you really understand Poles or do you have some form of superiority complex?

PiorunThreads: - Posts: 741 Joined: Nov 11, 07	Nov 11, 09, 16:28 / #
More like Napoleon complex.

ConstantineKThreads: 35 Posts: 1,949 Joined: May 10, 07	Nov 11, 09, 19:07 / #
Piorun: Do you really understand Poles or do you have some form of superiority complex? It is not that honesty, personal courage, pride, and artistry have no value in my eyes.... But, all these merits, quite valuable taken separately, are blended in Pole in such wrong way that transform him to his own caricature...

SeanusThreads: 22 Posts: 30,158 Joined: Dec 25, 07	Nov 11, 09, 20:11 / #
That's a very nice post, CK. Please elaborate as I'm curious to see what you had in mind. There is sth in what you said for sure.

ConstantineKThreads: 35 Posts: 1,949 Joined: May 10, 07	Nov 11, 09, 20:26 / #
Seanus: That's a very nice post, CK. Please elaborate as I'm curious to see what you had in mind. There is sth in what you said for sure. Oh, Seanus, please don't say that my english is too clumsy to understand it... Be that as it may, but Poles have such specific demeanour that each act of his generosity, each piece of virtue looks in him like base antic...He is always excessive, always shallow; he is like magpie

SeanusThreads: 22 Posts: 30,158 Joined: Dec 25, 07	Nov 11, 09, 20:32 / #
Not at all, CK. I believe that when you make profound statements, you should put some more flesh on the bones. Magpie? (sroka?) What do you mean? They have a skewed concept of virtues? Always excessive? I know many moderate Poles. Shallow? In what way? Don't expect them to be like us Scots ;) ;) ;)