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Farewell of Slavianka - who is able to understand Poles ?


Borrka 37 | 593  
9 Nov 2009 /  #1
Look at this video clip, listen to this great music: youtube.com/watch?v=3XywSEhJ1mI&NR=1

"Farewell of Slavianka" is a Russian march composed by Vasily Agapkin just before ww1.
Melody and very patriotic or rather nationalistic lyrics became an unofficial anthem of Kolchak's White Army.
Even Soviets decided to use the composition for propaganda 1941 (having on the beginning some problems with its "czarist" roots).

As far everything easy to understand.

Now we have to use YouTube again:

"Rozszumialy sie wierzby placzace" was a favorite march of the anti-communist and anti-Russian Polish Home Army (AK).
It was adopted for Polish partisans already after Katyn crime, with some new lyrics but being fully aware of its Russian imperialistic background.

Even me, Borrka, visiting Russian glubinka use to ask the local band to play Proshchanye Slovianki for me.
But first after several drinks and being in highly patriotic mood lol.
Crow 155 | 9,025  
9 Nov 2009 /  #2
Borrka

Thank you.

i understand you. Absolutely and completely. i deeply admire to your Polish spirit.

no, EU wouldn`t be a mother. Never
ConstantineK 26 | 1,284  
10 Nov 2009 /  #3
Even me, Borrka, visiting Russian glubinka use to ask the local band to play Proshchanye Slovianki for me.
But first after several drinks and being in highly patriotic mood lol.

Ohhh, I can imagine this picturesque scene..... One thing I cannot understand, why you are still alive? These Russian provincial bands, knowing what are you singing inwardly to the accompaniment of their patriotic music, might have picked you up on pitchfork...
gumishu 13 | 6,133  
10 Nov 2009 /  #4
well - even if they new the text they wouldn't mind singing it - cause it is in no way anti Russian - there is actually no mention of Russia/ns in the text, neither there is of Germans, communist etc - I recommend you get a translation of it

the only thing is that the song was popular among the AK

by the way I like the original song even better - after all it has been written to the melody of Russian language
ConstantineK 26 | 1,284  
10 Nov 2009 /  #5
well - even if they new the text they wouldn't mind singing it - cause it is in no way anti Russian - there is actually no mention of Russia/ns in the text

What? Do you say that this ersatz-song dose not contain even a word about Russia? Do you understand that exactly this fact serves a perfect prove of its Russofobic context? It might have meant only one thing! Those who sing it, has ani-Russian, cruel intentions in mind!
gumishu 13 | 6,133  
10 Nov 2009 /  #6
you really should get a translation
ConstantineK 26 | 1,284  
10 Nov 2009 /  #7
No, no....I don't need it, please spare me of your barbarous polish imitations, otherwise I can be touched and shall recognase in Poles, human beings equal to divine and godlike Russians! No way!
Mr Grunwald 33 | 2,158  
10 Nov 2009 /  #8
please spare me of your barbarous polish imitations

I would rather be proud someone trying to "copy" something from my own culture, for instance the Jugoslavias anthem. Allmost identical as the Polish one!
Crow 155 | 9,025  
10 Nov 2009 /  #9
ah those Russians

I would rather be proud someone trying to "copy" something from my own culture, for instance the Jugoslavias anthem. Allmost identical as the Polish one!

in a circles of ultimate and true Polish elite Serbia and Yugoslavia- that was created in 1918 was seen as realm of old Polish warlords/kings and embrio of future southern Poland`s territory (read part of Great Sarmatia). Serbs were key Polish player in this but, German (Croatia) and Turkish (Muslims of Bosnia and Kosovo Albanians) elements inside of Yugoslavia destablized country. Germany then managed to move complete EU/NATO (which culmination was in 1999) against Serbs and defeated them.

one more patriotic Russian song

Tatu - Yugoslavia

Russians seams can`t nor forget, nor forgive what NATO did to Yugoslavia and Serbia

interesting

Ekaterina Shelehova, 12 years old - Farewell of Slavianka


OP Borrka 37 | 593  
10 Nov 2009 /  #10
katerina Shelehova, 12 years old - Farewell of Slavianka

Poor kid...only 12 of age and already Russian ...
ConstantineK 26 | 1,284  
10 Nov 2009 /  #11
It's much batter of realizing each morning that you are Pole during whole life!
OP Borrka 37 | 593  
10 Nov 2009 /  #12
Ah Kostik, even don't try to hide away your true feelings, you wannabe Pole !
ConstantineK 26 | 1,284  
10 Nov 2009 /  #13
Sure, I want. For instance, I have a dog, his name is "Dar" (Gift). In any case I don't want to be a dog generally, but in the morning, you will not believe me, I am jealous of his profound sleep...Each morning I want to be a dog...the same is with my desire to be Pole.
Crow 155 | 9,025  
10 Nov 2009 /  #14
Poor kid...only 12 of age and already Russian ...

It's much batter of realizing each morning that you are Pole during whole life!

ahaha hahah hhaha hha

i have no words. You are all crazy

Ah Kostik, even don't try to hide away your true feelings, you wannabe Pole !

well, possible

as you probably heard, by genetic science Russians originate from Polish population.
Torq  
10 Nov 2009 /  #15
Russians seams can`t nor forget, nor forgive what NATO did to Yugoslavia and Serbia

Yugoslavia was OK - a strong Slavic country in the south. Much better than all those
tiny statelets that are there now :(

However, as far as I remember Russia didn't do much to stop NATO from bombing
Serbia and prevent the dismantling of Yugoslavia. Or did they do anything substantial?
OP Borrka 37 | 593  
10 Nov 2009 /  #16
as you probably heard, by genetic science Russians originate from Polish population.

From now I will address Kostik "my little brother".
ConstantineK 26 | 1,284  
10 Nov 2009 /  #17
Serbia and prevent the dismantling of Yugoslavia. Or did they do anything substantial?

We are doing, even now, much more than Serbia itself. We will never recognise Kosovo as independent state; though I don' have the same assurance concerning Serbia
Crow 155 | 9,025  
10 Nov 2009 /  #18
From now I will address Kostik "my little brother".

listen, that would be correct. Its a scientific fact

We are doing, even now, much more than Serbia itself. We will never recognise Kosovo as independent state; though I don' have the same assurance concerning Serbia

Serbia is now satelite dominion of NATO, under occupation. Soon, EU would anex us. So, what you expect?

Russians didn`t come to help us. Russia prefered peace with `German reich and friends`. Then, first time in history, Poles arrived on the Turkish and German side. What should Serbs do now?

Later, some Gavrilo Princip would arise, again. No doubts about that. One day
ConstantineK 26 | 1,284  
10 Nov 2009 /  #19
Later, some Gavrilo Princip would arise, again. No doubts about that. One day

He-he.....And who will be his victim?
Crow 155 | 9,025  
10 Nov 2009 /  #20
some degeneric for sure
Sasha 2 | 1,083  
10 Nov 2009 /  #21
And who will be his victim?

prince obama. :)

Poor kid...only 12 of age and already Russian ...

Ha-ha... good1 :)) well... being Russia is a diagnosis in a way.

Boria is there a translation of your song anywhere?

However, as far as I remember Russia didn't do much to stop NATO from bombing
Serbia and prevent the dismantling of Yugoslavia. Or did they do anything substantial?

They fed Serbs with promises of sending S-300 (anti-aircraft missile complex). Of course they didn't send them, that would be a suicide.
ConstantineK 26 | 1,284  
10 Nov 2009 /  #22
prince obama. :)

mmmm, small correction in the name of historical objectivity; not prince, but archduke....
OP Borrka 37 | 593  
11 Nov 2009 /  #23
Sasha, bad Yanks don't like postings in Russian.
Check your PM pls.
Seanus 15 | 19,674  
11 Nov 2009 /  #24
CK, Bob Dylan said it very well in his song, 'The Times, they are a' Changin', when he said "don't criticise what you can't understand".

Do you really understand Poles or do you have some form of superiority complex?
Piorun - | 658  
11 Nov 2009 /  #25
More like Napoleon complex.
ConstantineK 26 | 1,284  
11 Nov 2009 /  #26
Do you really understand Poles or do you have some form of superiority complex?

It is not that honesty, personal courage, pride, and artistry have no value in my eyes.... But, all these merits, quite valuable taken separately, are blended in Pole in such wrong way that transform him to his own caricature...
Seanus 15 | 19,674  
11 Nov 2009 /  #27
That's a very nice post, CK. Please elaborate as I'm curious to see what you had in mind. There is sth in what you said for sure.
ConstantineK 26 | 1,284  
11 Nov 2009 /  #28
Oh, Seanus, please don't say that my english is too clumsy to understand it...

Be that as it may, but Poles have such specific demeanour that each act of his generosity, each piece of virtue looks in him like base antic...He is always excessive, always shallow; he is like magpie
Seanus 15 | 19,674  
11 Nov 2009 /  #29
Not at all, CK. I believe that when you make profound statements, you should put some more flesh on the bones. Magpie? (sroka?) What do you mean? They have a skewed concept of virtues?

Always excessive? I know many moderate Poles. Shallow? In what way?

Don't expect them to be like us Scots ;) ;) ;)
ConstantineK 26 | 1,284  
11 Nov 2009 /  #30
Magpie? (sroka?) What do you mean?

Soroka, in Russian means boasting but empty character

They have a skewed concept of virtues

mmm, slightly distorted

Always excessive? I know many moderate Poles. Shallow? In what way?

They are actors on public but their skills never exceed level of market buffoonery...

Don't expect them to be like us Scots ;) ;) ;)

Ah Seanus, you, Scots, even worse.... Poles had struggled for their independence at least, you had sold it for opportunity of trading together with englishmen...

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