Farewell of Slavianka - who is able to understand Poles ?

Seanus:

Look at prominent 'Russians', CK. Kasparov, an Azerbaijani by birth but with Armenian-Jewish roots. Jozef Dzhindhashvili, a Georgian and Fyodor Emelianenko, born in Ukraine :)

Should I be rummaging through the archives for some Baltic Russians? LOL ;)

ConstantineKThreads: 35 Posts: 1,949 Joined: May 10, 07	Nov 11, 09, 20:45 / #
Seanus: Magpie? (sroka?) What do you mean? Soroka, in Russian means boasting but empty character Seanus: They have a skewed concept of virtues mmm, slightly distorted Seanus: Always excessive? I know many moderate Poles. Shallow? In what way? They are actors on public but their skills never exceed level of market buffoonery... Seanus: Don't expect them to be like us Scots ;) ;) ;) Ah Seanus, you, Scots, even worse.... Poles had struggled for their independence at least, you had sold it for opportunity of trading together with englishmen...

SeanusThreads: 22 Posts: 30,158 Joined: Dec 25, 07	Nov 11, 09, 20:50 / #
Sroka in Polish would be sb who steals from others. If an object is left lying, they will swipe it. That's what my Polish wife told me she understands by magpie. Yes, and we have Great Britain and the United Kingdom :) You don't even have the Soviet Union, just Russia. Your mighty country couldn't even take on tiny Chechnya, LOL. What's wrong with trade btw?

SashaThreads: 2 Posts: 1,597 Joined: Apr 19, 08	Edited by: Sasha Nov 11, 09, 20:56 / #
Borrka: Sasha, bad Yanks don't like postings in Russian. Check your PM pls. Thanks Boria. :) I liked the text. It sounds humane to me, as if it's first and foremost written by people and for people (not for the governmental needs). ConstantineK: Soroka, in Russian means boasting but empty character Kostia, priwet! Do you personally know any Poles and whatever your answer is... how would describe then a Russian character? Wouldn't aforesaid fit him either? Sean, do you speak any Scottish or it's as dead as Lenin? :) UPD: Seanus: Sroka in Polish would be sb who steals from others So is in Russian. Konst's simply making up new meanings. :)

SeanusThreads: 22 Posts: 30,158 Joined: Dec 25, 07	Nov 11, 09, 21:03 / #
CK is quite the character, ascribing new meanings to this and that ;) I speak Scottish dialect and understand basic Gaelic greetings. However, we weren't given the option of Gaelic in school and I'm from the east coast where it isn't really spoken. There is no widespread effort to suppress it. I don't think many Poles are that hard to understand.

gumishuThreads: 17 Posts: 3,943 Joined: Apr 6, 09	Nov 11, 09, 21:09 / #
Seanus: Sroka in Polish would be sb who steals from others. sroka would rather be someone who compulsively takes possesion of bright/ visually attractive items (or anything that happens to attrats his/her interest) no matter what it is its practical value

ConstantineKThreads: 35 Posts: 1,949 Joined: May 10, 07	Nov 11, 09, 21:11 / #
Seanus: You don't even have the Soviet Union, just Russia. You will see, we shall restore it under new name, it always have happened in the past! Sasha: Kostia, priwet! Do you personally know any Poles and whatever your answer is... how would describe then a Russian character? Wouldn't aforesaid fit him either? Yes, he was veeery polite and agreeable person! But nation as a whole....brrr... Russians are perfect creatures!

SeanusThreads: 22 Posts: 30,158 Joined: Dec 25, 07	Nov 11, 09, 21:11 / #
I agree with that too, gumishu. You have just qualified what I said with more precision. Do you fit that bill, Gumi? ;) ;)

ConstantineKThreads: 35 Posts: 1,949 Joined: May 10, 07	Nov 11, 09, 21:15 / #
gumishu: sroka would rather be someone who compulsively takes possesion of bright/ visually attractive items (or anything that happens to attrats his/her interest) no matter what it is its practical value Seanus: I agree with that too, gumishu. You have just qualified what I said with more precision. Do you fit that bill, Gumi? ;) ;) Ah, ah.....that is precise description of Pole....

lesserThreads: 7 Posts: 2,014 Joined: Oct 19, 07	Nov 11, 09, 21:21 / #
ConstantineK: We are doing, even now, much more than Serbia itself. We will never recognise Kosovo as independent state; though I don' have the same assurance concerning Serbia This comment contain much of true. Russia will recognize Kosovo right after Serbia.

gumishuThreads: 17 Posts: 3,943 Joined: Apr 6, 09	Edited by: gumishu Nov 11, 09, 21:25 / #
Seanus: I agree with that too, gumishu. You have just qualified what I said with more precision. Do you fit that bill, Gumi? ;) ;) yeah pretty much :) ConstantineK: Russians are perfect creatures! well they have to be - noone would survive that long on 'spirt' based diet as Russians do :)

TorqThreads: 65 Posts: 4,024 Joined: Apr 10, 09 MEMBER	Nov 11, 09, 21:28 / #
ConstantineK: It is not that honesty, personal courage, pride, and artistry have no value in my eyes.... But, all these merits, quite valuable taken separately, are blended in Pole in such wrong way that transform him to his own caricature... ConstantineK: Be that as it may, but Poles have such specific demeanour that each act of his generosity, each piece of virtue looks in him like base antic...He is always excessive, always shallow; he is like magpie For a short moment I thought you were for real but then I read... ConstantineK: Russians are perfect creatures! ...LOL - nice wind-up attempt. ConstantineK :)

gumishuThreads: 17 Posts: 3,943 Joined: Apr 6, 09	Edited by: gumishu Nov 11, 09, 23:06 / #
Crow: one more patriotic Russian song Crow - you know why there is not that much sympathy in Polish society towards Serbia? - most people have no idea what kind of damage or what extent of damage has been brought upon Serbia by the American bombings - you probably know who is guilty of that - yes it is journalists - most of Polish journalists are PC ****** ( w.h.o.r.e.s. - I don't know the realities in other countries but in Poland it is einfach spectacular - this is the only reason why PO (also falsle called Platforma Obywatelska or Civic Platform) gained power in 2007 the journalists will 'shy away' from any subject that is not 'in line', they will try to diminish, twist or discredit things there is no way to stop hitting the news

SeanusThreads: 22 Posts: 30,158 Joined: Dec 25, 07	Nov 11, 09, 23:14 / #
Then they are ignorant feckers. I saw only part of the devastation in Belgrade as major parts have been rebuilt. I find it hard to believe that such BS could be written. What motives did those Polish journalists have to paint only one side of things? I don't get this. Then again, who are they in bed with? Those warmongers, the US and Britain.

lesserThreads: 7 Posts: 2,014 Joined: Oct 19, 07	Nov 11, 09, 23:35 / #
From a perspective of time, this is indeed fascinating example of how mainstream western media serve as a lapdogs of political establishment. Politicians influenced proper people in media outlets to justify their military aggression. This is OK to bomb innocent civilians from the sky as long as they claim that their motivations are human rights and democracy. This is OK to portray a nation to be some kind of animals as long they are on the other side of barricade. Warmongering and nationalism is fine as long as this is western socialist establishment the one who encourage these primitive behaviours. Sjam, perhaps you have something to say about how your beloved western media performed during Balkan wars?

SeanusThreads: 22 Posts: 30,158 Joined: Dec 25, 07	Edited by: Seanus Nov 11, 09, 21:58 / #
Look at prominent 'Russians', CK. Kasparov, an Azerbaijani by birth but with Armenian-Jewish roots. Jozef Dzhindhashvili, a Georgian and Fyodor Emelianenko, born in Ukraine :) Should I be rummaging through the archives for some Baltic Russians? LOL ;)

ConstantineKThreads: 35 Posts: 1,949 Joined: May 10, 07	Nov 11, 09, 22:44 / #
Seanus: Look at prominent 'Russians', CK. Kasparov, an Azerbaijani by birth but with Armenian-Jewish roots. Jozef Dzhindhashvili, a Georgian and Fyodor Emelianenko, born in Ukraine :) Should I be rummaging through the archives for some Baltic Russians? LOL ;) Should I remind you that word "Russian" is adjective? You can write or say "Englishman" and it will be correct grammatical form for English language, but "Russianman" is nonsense! You may have evem Jewish roots, but you are still Russian, if you were born in Russia.

SeanusThreads: 22 Posts: 30,158 Joined: Dec 25, 07	Nov 11, 09, 22:53 / #
You are getting into linguistics but in a foolish way, CK. He was born in Azerbaijan, not Russia. Georgia is not Russia. Chechnya is not Russia. Ukraine is not Russia. Start checking out maps, CK.

gumishuThreads: 17 Posts: 3,943 Joined: Apr 6, 09	Nov 11, 09, 23:36 / #
Seanus: Then again, who are they in bed with? Those warmongers, the US and Britain. in this case yes - there are various bandwaggons though - perhaps there is no conservative bandwaggon - this kind of journalists here tend to be quite independent - the thing is the more 'liberal' journalism here the more herd instinct is there too it - the more blinkers and scorn - I get to believe this is valid to the whole PC phenomenon - in many Polish media entities individuals who ask difficult questions are not welcome

SeanusThreads: 22 Posts: 30,158 Joined: Dec 25, 07	Nov 11, 09, 23:53 / #
Lesser, don't ignore the trappings of capitalism either. NYC PR firms gladly signed up to represent the cause of the Bosniaks, spearheaded by Allah Izetbegovic. Serbia could have played that game but didn't. They stuck with the truth. America does this, they finance both sides whether it be Iran Vs Iraq, Israel Vs Palestine or IRA Vs Britain. In my view, this is worse than what socialists do. Gumishu, liberals like Fisk will write what they see and not take allegiances. Independent journalists can present the truth without significant bias. This is what we want, even if it yields 'undesirable results'. This is the opposite of the herding effect. It just leads to more questioning people who will pursue the truth.