A few thoughts after plowing through most "Sabaton: 40-1" comments on YouTube

Well...they will always serve as a prime example that a country needs more than a "grande army" with good equipment to be an effective force.
The french had all that but look what happened...

They had the Nazi gold in their banks? I'm only guessing here...

Allies, BB, we are allies. I wouldn't go as far as saying "friends".

Well...maybe I could acknowledge more the achievements of the polish army when you could acknowledge that the german army did actually sometimes fight against enemy military during breaks slaughtering civilians.

Closer than with Russia, I would say.

On a gun-control note, rate of firearm crimes in Switzerland is relatively quite low.

You've been to this forum for long enough to know the rules of engagement against
me :) Everytime you try to diminish the bravery of Polish soldiers or try to ridicule our
war effort etc. etc. I will remind you about the inhuman atrocities that your army
comitted. Such are the rules, sorry - ordnung muss sein :)

Do I smell another treaty here??? :)

Good point. When will people finally understand that gun-control is only in the
interest of criminals, who will always acquire weapons when needed, and against
the interest of common people.

You know, I do believe there are certain people in the world
who are just not capable of wrapping their minds around the concept.

It's even more amusing trying to make the Poland campaign somehow to something else than a devastating, humiliating defeat for the "in one week in Berlin" types of "proud" Poles. :):):)

If Czechs didn't surrender like cowards in 1938 but decided to ally themselves
with Poland instead, it would result in Germany not being able to encircle Polish
armies from the South and add some Czech troops to our forces (having very
good weapons, mainly tanks). The only problem would be to convince those
Czech divisions to actually fight *rolls eyes*

303 Squadron (most enemy kills during Battle of Britain)

If Czechs didn't surrender like cowards in 1938 but decided to ally themselves
with Poland instead,

The only problem would be to convince those Czech divisions to actually fight

joined the invasion of Czechoslovakia'

Don't you mean 'If Poland hadn't allied itself with Hitler

Our army only took back what the Czechs stole from us, backstabbing us
when we were busy fighting the red hordes in the Polish-Soviet war.

At no point in history Poland was an ally to Hitler. Such lies only make
you look ridiculous.

Your ignorance, when it comes to history, never ceases to amaze me.

Your outstanding ability to lie about the darker points of Polish history

The Polish side based its claim to the area on ethnic criteria: a majority of the area's
population was Polish according to the last (1910) Austrian census.

The new Czechoslovakia claimed the area partly on historic and ethnic grounds, but
especially on economic grounds. The area was important for the Czechs as the
crucial railway line connecting Czech Silesia with Slovakia crossed the area.

On 5 November 1918, the area was divided between Poland and Czechoslovakia by an interim agreement of two local self-government councils (Czech Národní výbor pro Slezsko and Polish Rada Narodowa Księstwa Cieszyńskiego). Before that, the majority of the area was taken over by Polish local authorities. In 1919 both councils were absorbed by the newly created and independent central governments in Prague and Warsaw. The former was not satisfied with this compromise and on 23 January 1919 invaded the area.

The reason for the Czech invasion in 1919 was primarily the organisation of elections to the Sejm (parliament) of Poland in the disputed area.The elections were to be held in the whole of Cieszyn Silesia. The Czechs claimed that the polls must not be held in the disputed area as the delimitation was only interim and no sovereign rule should be executed there by any party. When the Czech demand was rejected by the Poles, the Czechs decided to resolve the issue by force.

I can show you one of yours in this very thread - you said that Poland allied itself to Hitler - that's an obvious lie. Now your turn.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zaolzie

Nevertheless, the Polish leader, Colonel Józef Beck believed that Warsaw should act rapidly to forestall the German occupation of the city. At noon on 30 September, Poland gave an ultimatum to the Czechoslovak government. It demanded the immediate evacuation of Czech troops and police and gave Prague time until noon the following day. At 11:45 a.m. on 1 October the Czech foreign ministry called the Polish ambassador in Prague and told him that Poland could have what it wanted. The Germans were delighted with this outcome. They were happy to give up a provincial rail centre to Poland; it was a small sacrifice indeed. It spread the blame of the partition of Czechoslovakia, made Poland a seeming accomplice in the process and confused the issue as well as political expectations. Poland was accused of being an accomplice of Nazi Germany – a charge that Warsaw was hard put to deny.

They were happy to give up a provincial rail centre to Poland

Would you now like to claim that being an accomplice of Hitler is so very different to being an ally of Hitler?

Even the word "accomplice" is highly debatable in this context

because being an ally means to have an alliance and there was never any kind of alliance between Poland and Third Reich.

Poland didn't help Hitler to invade Czechoslovakia.

He would do it anyway and wouldn't need any help.

taking back what was rightfully ours in the process

It was not rightfully yours. Poland agreed at the Spa conference that the area in question belonged to Czechoslovakia.

So now you disagree with the source which you yourself posted, how surprising.

Frankly, those Czechs living there were probably happy the Poles took over administration, rather than Nazis.

to forestall the German occupation of the city

Please point out how doing something to forestall the German occupation
is allying oneself to Germany.

In exactly the same way that Poland invaded it in 1938, the Czechs were unable to defend it, and the Czechs agreed that it was Polish. Czechs invaded it prior, and the Polish were unable to defend it.

Frankly, judging by your previous posts on this forum, you're just an angry man with a huge chip on your shoulder, but that's your problem. I have no time for
muppets like you.

That would be a good argument if Poland had limited itself to taking only the parts of the region which had been Polish from 1918 to 1920. But Poland didn't limit itself to taking only those parts, they took more. In fact they even took territory which had never been part of Cieszyn!

What's the fuss about?

I read about this but couldn't detect anything special (besides Germans dropping leaflets to give the Poles a chance to surrender).

Germans attack - Poles defend a fort - Poles get overrun - Poles kill themselves - Germans march on - Poland done 3 weeks later

So what?

But hey...maybe you should put it in your holy lists of battles against Germans...like...um....say ...Grunwald...:)

PS: Sabatons lyrics are quite funny when you think about it:
"So come, bring on all that you've got/Come hell, come high water, Never stop/Unless you are 40 to 1/Your lives will soon be undone"
If I were a Pole I would rather not try it again...
The last times Poles bragged about a war with Germany they did not look so good later!

Oh puuuuuuuuuuuleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeze! ROFL

You belong to the same type of Poles who screamed still in August '39 "Bring 'em on!" "We will show them!"
Totally overestimation of your capabilities...must be a polish thing!:)

Do you deny that Poland took part in Hitler's dismemberment of Czechoslovakia? If you were not Hitler's ally in that invasion, you were at least his accomplice.

if it happened in my times I will still stood up for it since it's my duty as a citizen.

So British invasions were also unacceptable? Because I think they were more belligerent than most other European nations.

If Czechs didn't surrender like cowards in 1938 but decided to ally themselves
with Poland instead, it would result in Germany not being able to encircle Polish
armies from the South and add some Czech troops to our forces (having very
good weapons, mainly tanks). The only problem would be to convince those
Czech divisions to actually fight *rolls eyes*