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How long was Poland "lost in history"?



Guest   Apr 17, 07, 23:36 /  #
how long was Poland lost in history, i mean HONESTLY.

i look at all these web sites none of them tell me ANYTHING ?! ?! ?!

-wtf?!-
GoonieThreads: 10
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ever hear of the Roman empire?

it was actually a bunch of Poles
Mix&Match   Apr 17, 07, 23:41 /  #
hmmm ... nope.
i can't seem to find any thing on Polac past.

this sucks !!! GOOGLE SUCKS !!!
shewolfThreads: 5
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do you mean when it was erased from the map in 1795? Just type "Poland 1795" in google and see if it brings anything up.
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You might try reading a book on Polish history. I recommend The Polish Way by Adam Zamoyski.
Magus   Apr 19, 07, 00:28 /  #
Poland is a Latin name (I think it's Poleia or something) meaning Farmers.
Before that, Samerian, noted by the Romans. Everything about the Polish
is the same as the Sumerians. The Germans and Russians for thousand
years have been hiding and distorting, or making up history, mostly because
Sumerians are in the Bible and their system of government undermined the
empire control. Romans march to Poland 1300's, Samerians they were,
and there religion was pagan.
peterwegThreads: 35
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Magus

Your information sound suspect.

freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~atpc/heritage/history/origins.html

the Slavic nations trace their ancestry to three brothers who parted in the forests of Eastern Europe, each moving in a different direction to found a family of distinct but related peoples. Fanciful elements aside, this tale accurately describes the westward migration and gradual differentiation of the early West Slavic tribes following the collapse of the Roman Empire. About twenty such tribes formed small states between A.D. 800 and 960. One of these tribes, the Polanie or Poliane ("people of the plain"), settled in the flatlands that eventually formed the heart of Poland, lending their name to the country. Over time the modern Poles emerged as the largest of the West Slavic groupings, establishing themselves to the east of the Germanic regions of Europe with their ethnographic cousins, the Czechs and Slovaks, to the south.

In spite of convincing fragmentary evidence
of prior political and social organization, national custom identifies the starting date of Polish history as 966, when Prince Mieszko (r. 963-92) accepted Christianity in the name of the people he ruled. In return, Poland received acknowledgment as a separate principality owing some degree of tribute to the German Empire (later officially known as the Holy Roman Empire--see Glossary). Under Otto I, the German Empire was an expansionist force to the West in the mid-tenth century. Mieszko accepted baptism directly from Rome in preference to conversion by the German church and subsequent annexation of Poland by the German Empire. This strategy inaugurated the intimate connection between the Polish national identity and Roman Catholicism that became a prominent theme in the history of the Poles.
JuliePotockaThreads: 6
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It's very complex, and, er, an ancestor of mine is blamed for its demise. Regardless, here's something to digest, and understand that though she was officially not a nation after the Third Annexation, she was still whole in Spirit. History of Poland 1795-1918
That should help explain much.

This should explain the hardships rather well, from WW1
Sacrifice
EbonyandBathoryThreads: 7
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You could even argue that Poland has been lost to history even before the partitions in the late 18th century. Everyone is familiar with Poland's suffering in the Second World War but how many know of its history before that. Poland was one of the most powerful nations of Europe for 700 years and all this is forgotten because of the 123 years it didn't exist. People think of Russia and Germany as "historic powers" but few know that Poland predates both of those empires. There is a western assumption that Poland has always toiled under the yoke of outside governments but there was a time when Poland control its own and other's destinies. This has been lost to history.
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EbonyandBathory wrote:
Poland was one of the most powerful nations of Europe for 700 years and all this is forgotten because of the 123 years it didn't exist.

I think you went too far there.
Poland ruled Moscow and occupied Kremlin twice in history. As my high school teacher would say we are 2-2 with Moscow in that regard remembering Moskale took longer to go away.
Poland was not on the map 1795 - 1918 and was enjoying status of today's Basque people coming back into political spotlight from time to time only.
Ozi DanThreads: 22
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EbonyandBathory wrote:
Poland was one of the most powerful nations of Europe for 700 years


I think Poland had latent power that it never harnessed effectively.

What do you measure power by anyway? Armed forces, political stability, foreign clout? - or a combination of all these and others.

It's a pity Poland devolved after the death of the last Jagiello. European history would undoubtedly have been different and vastly so.

It should be remembered that time passes and nations that are now all powerful fade away and memories of former grandeur again become reality.

I believe that Poland will once again adopt its paramount place in the world as what it was once described as several centuries ago - "the most human of nations". This phrase surely holds more meaning and purpose than any other.
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Are you kidding look at the reply's to this post:

European Union to learn facts "WW2 Polish expellees" 70 years later?

History is being altered and no one seems to care, please tell me I'm wrong?
Eagle20Threads: 34
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Website of Polish History, from early Poland (1000) to around WWI.

Its from the " Political History of Poland" written by E.H. Lewinski-Corwin and published in 1917
celinskiThreads: 83
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Eagle20 wrote:
E.H. Lewinski-Corwin and published in 1917



What aboout 1939-45 when 40% of Poland was gone? People are still alive to tell and yet no one hears.
joepilsudskiThreads: 44
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Poland usually traces it's history to the Piast dynasty...there is a Polish Ancient History thread on this Forum...try this:
http://www.historyworld.net/wrldhis/PlainTextHistories.asp?groupid=987 &HistoryID=ab01

or: http://www.polishforums.com/ancient_polish_history_thread-34_14016_0.h tml
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JuliePotocka wrote:
This should explain the hardships rather well, from WW1
Sacrifice


Thanks for info on WW1. I havn’t come across much info on Poles during WW1.

The website based on the book, " Political History of Poland" written by E.H. Lewinski-Corwin and published in 1917, mentions about 2 million Poles who fought as part of 3 foreign armies fighting on opposite sides.
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Guest wrote:
"lost in history"?

what's that mean? poland was never lost nor found. it's always been there.. for a spell it was under occupation by instruders but it was still there.
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Guest wrote:
how long was Poland lost in history


do you mean the time when Poland disappeared from the map of Europe? i suggest you do check out the history threads here, lots of info there.
JuliePotockaThreads: 6
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Poland has always been here...just occupied. Now that's a funny one to think of. When Japan was occupied, it was said, "Occupied Japan". I have dish sets that say made during that time, even a child's tea set!

But other countries tried to swallow Poland whole...didn't work out.
NathanThreads: 33
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Like Poland tried to swallow other countries as well and choked, it almost cost her life, Julie.
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I thought Poland was Hebrew and it meant "Dwell Here". It's what I read.
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