Poland war propaganda poster - can anyone explain this picture?

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Edited by: SeanBM Oct 25, 08, 12:02 / #

I came across this in my local museum.
It is war propaganda.
Could anyone tell me about it?

Shawn_H	Edited by: Shawn_H Oct 25, 08, 12:10 / #
SeanBM: It is war propaganda. Is it Propaganda? I would view it as a politically motivated statement, as you would find in a any modern newspaper. It just seems to be making the statement that the mess associated with the war is the fault of the English.

Oct 25, 08, 12:12 / #

Shawn_H:

Could anyone tell me about it?

Edited by: SeanBM Oct 25, 08, 12:24 / #

Shawn_H:

the war is the fault of the English.

How? I am assuming it is WW2, is it commenting that England did not react quickly enough or something?

I have more Propaganda or politically motivated statements but I did not understand this one.

puercoespin:

puercoespin

Come on, tell us about it then.

Here another, note Wara does not mean war but something like "go away".

Shawn_H	Oct 25, 08, 12:28 / #
SeanBM: I am assuming it is WW2 As would I.... SeanBM: is it commenting that England did not react quickly enough or something I think it is commenting on the pact that England made with Poland to offer assistance in the event of German aggression. A pact that the English had no possible way of standing behind. SeanBM: I did not understand this one I think it loosely translates to "England, this is your work"

Oct 25, 08, 12:32 / #

This one is pretty self explanatory, I think.
Anyone care to comment on these?

DiceThreads: 20 Posts: 677 Joined: Nov 27, 07	Edited by: Dice Oct 25, 08, 12:33 / #
Poster #1: A Commie propaganda poster blaming UK for Poland's initial defeat in WWII. A lot of Poles still think that way accusing UK of not helping Poland during the first stage of WWII. Poster #2: more of the same.

McCoyThreads: 46 Posts: 1,756 Joined: Jul 3, 08	Oct 25, 08, 12:34 / #
SeanBM: something like "go away". or hands off

Shawn_H	Oct 25, 08, 12:39 / #
Dice: Commie What tells you it is Commie?

SeanBMThreads: 41 Posts: 8,727 Joined: Mar 10, 08	Oct 25, 08, 12:40 / #
Dice: Poster #2: more of the same. The second is a Polish soldier fighting off the Nazis, isn't it? So how could it be more of the same? McCoy: or hands off That makes sence.

PoznanThreads: 8 Posts: 72 Joined: Oct 23, 08	Edited by: Poznan Oct 25, 08, 12:50 / #
I can explain it. We didn't had support and after the war we were sold for Soviets British have confiscated (stolen) our national gold reserves (transported to UK throught Romania in 1939). I answer if you ask but we should rememeber that we learn history.

puercoespinThreads: 1 Posts: 155 Joined: Jun 8, 08	Oct 25, 08, 12:53 / #
SeanBM: Come on, tell us about it then. im going out right now..im sorry buy if this thread will be still alive i will join and help as i like this subject

SeanBMThreads: 41 Posts: 8,727 Joined: Mar 10, 08	Oct 25, 08, 13:01 / #
Poznan: I answer if you ask but we should remmebr that we learn history. Of course, I was just not sure if it was on the way in to WW2 or on the way out, that this poster was blaming England. puercoespin: i will join and help as i like this subject Great all comments welcome. I would like to know more, always.

PoznanThreads: 8 Posts: 72 Joined: Oct 23, 08	Edited by: Poznan Oct 25, 08, 14:23 / #
SeanBM: Of course, I was just not sure if it was on the way in to WW2 or on the way out, that this poster was blaming England. Yes this poster was blaimng england but I don't know exatly this one... but I know one face on this poster so I gues I am right.

plk123Threads: 30 Posts: 6,412 Joined: Aug 29, 07	Oct 25, 08, 19:00 / #
Shawn_H: A pact that the English had no possible way of standing behind. then why sign such a pact? speaks volumes of the limies.

osiolThreads: 59 Posts: 4,714 Joined: Jul 25, 07	Oct 25, 08, 19:34 / #
Never Britain, is it? Always England. Tut tut.

puercoespinThreads: 1 Posts: 155 Joined: Jun 8, 08	Oct 25, 08, 20:14 / #
SeanBM: How? I am assuming it is WW2, is it commenting that England did not react quickly enough or something? thats right Dice: A Commie propaganda poster This is a German poster from the early WW2 time which was printed in Polish for distribution in Poland to undermine any possible alliances.

Shawn_H	Edited by: Shawn_H Oct 25, 08, 20:58 / #
osiol: Tut tut No, he ruled Egypt. I think Chamberlain was in power in Jolly Ole. puercoespin: is a German poster from the early WW2 time That is interesting, so it really would be propaganda then.

z_dariusThreads: 22 Posts: 5,091 Joined: Oct 18, 07	Oct 25, 08, 22:38 / #
Shawn_H: That is interesting, so it really would be propaganda then. It was. A similar poster was produced by Germans for the French consumption: "C 'est L'anglais qui nous a fait ca". SeanBM: Anyone care to comment on these? This is a game of words that in effect has two meanings: 1. Poland was the first country to put up a fight against the Germans (Austria and Czechoslovakia didn't) 2. Poland is always ready to fight. Implies that Poles do not look for excuses to avoid a just fight, or look whether others are ready if there is a need to fight.

Phil33101Threads: 4 Posts: 27 Joined: Oct 5, 08	Oct 26, 08, 00:57 / #
SeanBM: Here another, note Wara does not mean war but something like "go away". Sean, your 2nd and 3rd Images, are Polish propaganda from the time of the Warsaw uprising. Both are displayed in the Uprising Museum in Warsaw. Phil

BorrkaThreads: 49 Posts: 770 Joined: Apr 25, 08	Oct 26, 08, 01:32 / #
Phil33101: Polish propaganda from the time of the Warsaw uprising Not true. Both are from 1939.

Phil33101Threads: 4 Posts: 27 Joined: Oct 5, 08	Oct 26, 08, 01:45 / #
Borrka: Not true. Both are from 1939. I stand corrected, from 1939 and the invasion of Poland, generated Support for the Home Army which led to the Warsaw uprising

BartolomeThreads: 2 Posts: 1,345 Joined: Sep 14, 06	Edited by: Bartolome Oct 26, 08, 04:48 / #
Dice: Poster #2: more of the same. Not true. The first poster accuses England (sic!) of destruction of Poland (I suspect it's a German or Communist post-war propaganda). The second one is pre-war propaganda poster telling 'stay away'. A soldier driving a bayonet into a hand with an armband with svastika is self explanatory.

BorrkaThreads: 49 Posts: 770 Joined: Apr 25, 08	Oct 26, 08, 04:51 / #
Bartolome: I suspect it's a German or Communist post-war propaganda).The second one is pre-war propaganda poster telling 'stay away'. A soldier driving a German Nazi propaganda.

Lodz_The_BoatThreads: 58 Posts: 2,314 Joined: Sep 7, 08	Oct 26, 08, 05:12 / #
Let the flag of Poland fly high... and its neighbours know... this flag is eternal. We know how to forgive... but we are aware of the past aswell. Recent Past.

KrzysztofThreads: 2 Posts: 1,146 Joined: Jul 26, 07	Oct 26, 08, 07:35 / #
(about the first poster in this thread) Borrka: German Nazi propaganda. z_darius: It was.A similar poster was produced by Germans for the French consumption: "C 'est L'anglais qui nous a fait ca". And here is the supposed author of both versions: Theo Matejko (Austria)

PoznanThreads: 8 Posts: 72 Joined: Oct 23, 08	Edited by: Poznan Oct 26, 08, 09:48 / #
In Yalta we were sold it is fact. If we were such great allies so it is time for British to give back our national gold reserves confiscated (stolen) after the war. We are not under communist rule and now it is time to send our gold back to Poland. Gentelmens do so.

SeanusThreads: 22 Posts: 30,158 Joined: Dec 25, 07	Oct 26, 08, 09:52 / #
It is true that u were sold down the river but u have to understand that we could have ill afforded a protracted war with Russia at that time. It was a placating measure.

BabinichThreads: 1 Posts: 1,054 Joined: May 26, 08	Oct 26, 08, 10:00 / #
Seanus: It is true that u were sold down the river but u have to understand that we could have ill afforded a protracted war with Russia at that time. It was a placating measure. What leads you to believe that a war with the Soviet Union would be "protracted"?

SeanusThreads: 22 Posts: 30,158 Joined: Dec 25, 07	Oct 26, 08, 10:02 / #
We sustained heavy casualties as a result of WWII. There was a lot of unfinished business and it would have dragged on until acceptable resolutions came about. I'm no expert but that was the prevailing view at the time.