Poland war propaganda poster - can anyone explain this picture?

SeanBM:

I did not think he was making facts, just showing us something interesting.
I have not read Crnogorac7 posts on this topic, so maybe that is something else but as propaganda posters they are wonderful but that does not mean I agree to them, i just find them interesting.

BubbaWooThreads: 46 Posts: 4,438 Joined: Sep 26, 06	Oct 26, 08, 10:09 / #
right as usual S, but dont you get bored of saying the same thing over and over...? if britain does have the polish gold reserve, giving it back would be the gentlemanly thing to do but british gentlemen tend to spend gold on the finer things in life, perhaps we could come to some sort of deal, give poland the millennium dome or something

SeanusThreads: 22 Posts: 30,160 Joined: Dec 25, 07	Oct 26, 08, 10:13 / #
If I say the same thing over and over, it means I'm merely reiterating a point. If it serves a good purpose, so be it.

PoznanThreads: 8 Posts: 72 Joined: Oct 23, 08	Edited by: Poznan Oct 26, 08, 10:13 / #
This posters were right. History of our National Gold Reserves proves this fact. Canada gave us back our Gold just after the war. Give us back our gold.

SeanBMThreads: 41 Posts: 8,647 Joined: Mar 10, 08	Oct 26, 08, 10:28 / #
I will go to the museum again and look at what is written on each picture, truth be known I actually went there to see a Salvidor Dali exhibition. And I took these photos with my phone. I am still unsure, because of the amount of replies, if they are from the Nazis, communist or Poland, perhaps all three? we will see. The first picture, England being blamed could be. A) Not having entered the war quickly enough, to cut collaboration with them from the Nazis or commies. B) After the war, England signing the secret treaty which effectively meant that Poland became Eastern Block, again perhaps by the Nazis or the Poles. C)England not giving back the Gold that belonged to Poland, therefore the poster could be by the Poles or the commies. Which kind of leaves me almost exactly where I started off, although I did not know about the gold.

Crnogorac7Threads: 1 Posts: 42 Joined: Oct 10, 08	Edited by: Crnogorac7 Oct 26, 08, 12:45 / #
Posters in Serbia during WWII MOTHER SERBIA, THEY'RE PUSHING YOU INTO DEATH, BUT FOR THEMSELVES SAKE! WHY? (Belgrade was bombed by Anglo-American air forces on April 16 and 17, 1944, which was Orthodox Easter Day.) MAY YOUR MOTHER'S MILK POISON YOU WHEN YOU HAVE FAITH IN THE ENGLISH! LOOK AND NEVER FORGET! English Christmas greeting to the Serbian nation RADIO LONDON CALLING: "DIE SERBIAN PEOPLE, BECAUSE THE MORE THE GRASS IS CUT THE MORE IT GROWS." ENGLAND HAS BETRAYED US TO BOLSHEVISM. WHO DEFENDS US FROM CERTAIN DESTRUCTION...? THAT IS ENGLAND! ARE THE ENGLISH FRIENDS OF SMALL NATIONS? RECIPE FOR ENGLISH FRIENDSHIP Dr. Winston Churchill specialist for everything All nations must give to England 1.) In time of peace: your resources and other riches, 2.) In time of war: your lives. ENGLISH PROMISES: EQUALITY BROTHERHOOD FREEDOM ENGLISH REALITY: INEQUALITY HATRED SLAVERY DEEDS AND WORDS One English Drama 1940 "We have the best tanks, the best planes and the best cannons." ---> Dunkirk 1941 "We have the best tanks, the best planes and the best cannons." ---> Greece 1942 "We have the best tanks, the best planes and the best cannons." ---> Tobruk ... America will now produce so much armored vehicles, planes and cannons,... that we next year won't know what to do with them...and most of them we'll send underwater, because the danger there from submarines is most frequent. Democracy advanceguard FOR COMMUNISM

SeanBMThreads: 41 Posts: 8,647 Joined: Mar 10, 08	Edited by: SeanBM Oct 26, 08, 12:56 / #
WOW, Crnogorac7, they are interesting. Style wise also. They probably belong on the "What do you hate about England and English people? " thread but the style is kind of similar I always liked the Russian communist propaganda, the style of it (I forget the name of the style??) Very strong very powerful

Bratwurst BoyThreads: 11 Posts: 14,563 Joined: Apr 2, 07	Oct 26, 08, 12:58 / #
Very interesting I must say...

PoznanThreads: 8 Posts: 72 Joined: Oct 23, 08	Edited by: Poznan Oct 26, 08, 12:59 / #
I thought that Serbs were on "our" side. It means allied

MatyjaszThreads: 2 Posts: 1,786 Joined: Jul 20, 06	Oct 26, 08, 13:11 / #
The first poster was made by the nazis in 1939.

SeanBMThreads: 41 Posts: 8,647 Joined: Mar 10, 08	Oct 26, 08, 13:13 / #
Matyjasz: The first poster was made by the nazis in 1939. Are you sure? and about what were they blaming England?

SeanBMThreads: 41 Posts: 8,647 Joined: Mar 10, 08	Edited by: SeanBM Oct 26, 08, 13:33 / #
Bartolome: Note that here Soviets are put in one line with Western Allies. how so? I do not really like the style of the western allies propaganda, bit too boring in comparison Please note my preference in style has absolutely no similarities with my political presences .

Crnogorac7Threads: 1 Posts: 42 Joined: Oct 10, 08	Edited by: Crnogorac7 Oct 26, 08, 14:24 / #
EUROPE DEFENDS ITS 3000 YEAR OLD HISTORY AGAINST BOLSHEVISM AND SERBIA IS IN THE ANTI-COMMUNIST FRONT "SUN OF FREEDOM" THIS IS WHAT FREEDOM LOOKS LIKE WHICH IS PROMISED BY INTERNATIONAL JEWISH CONSPIRATORS 4 ENEMIES OF THE SERBIAN NATION AND THEIR MISDEEDS (TITO, CHURCHILL, ROOSEVELT, ZIONISM) "I DID AS YOU WISHED, THE COMMUNIST INTERNATIONAL IS ON RECESS. (Jewish Chairs)" PLANS FOR THE BOLSHEVIZATION OF ENGLAND AND AMERICA GERMANY IS THE ONLY RELIABLE BULWARK AGAINST BOLSHEVISM AND YOUR HARVEST IS PROTECTED FROM THE DEVASTATION OF BOLSHEVISM BALKANS, Belgrade, Sofia Tito go to make happy and bring into order those in the Balkans. WHERE? RESULT OF SCHOOL AND WORK OF LIBERATOR TITO TERROR AND DESTRUCTION OF EVERYTHING TITO OBEDIENT STUDENT OF BOLSHEVIK TEACHER STALIN DIE RUSSIAN PEOPLE! STALIN IS PUSHING YOU INTO DEATH TO SAVE THE JEWS You won't perhaps me brother, I am a democrat... a good Serb, DEMOCRATIC NAIVETY THIS IS THE FREEDOM WHICH THE COMMUNISTS ARE PROMISING TO YOU Made in USSR HUNGER MOCKERY OF THE CHURCH EVILDOING SOVIET PARADISE DEATH TO BOLSHEVISM! EUROPE RECOGNIZES BOLSHEVISM AND FIGHTS UNTIL VICTORY "LIBERATOR?" NO, NEVER... BACK OFF COMMUNIST FIEND!.. FOREVER! NEVER! (Train to Siberia) VINICA Mass grave of Ukranian workers and farmers In mass graves of Vinica were found in particular many children's corpses. (A Serb watches over from Ravna Gora) KATYN 12,000 Executed Polish Officers DEATH: "POOR THEM, EVEN I FEEL SORRY FOR THEM!" KATYN = RAVNA GORA 12,000 BOLSHEVISM RULE OF TERROR LIBERATING ARMIES OF NEW EUROPE SOON WILL DESTROY THE TERROR OF SOVIET JEWS. ...last hopes are dissapearing THIS PLAGUE IS FINALLY REMOVED 22nd June COMMUNISM, CAPITALISM, JEWRY ONLY GERMANY YOU SHOULD THANK THAT THIS THREAT WAS REMOVED FROM EUROPE AND SERBIA.

SeanBMThreads: 41 Posts: 8,647 Joined: Mar 10, 08	Oct 26, 08, 14:42 / #
They are really interesting Crnogorac7, the psychological tricks used to make one side right or wrong, big or small, really fascinating stuff. I see a lot of these are anti communist and pro German, so was this Nazi propaganda in Serbia? Stunning imagery, really stunning.

PoznanThreads: 8 Posts: 72 Joined: Oct 23, 08	Edited by: Poznan Oct 26, 08, 14:59 / #
1) Poles go to Cassino. 2) Referes to Sikorski death (Next Katyń vicitme) (and his British murders) In all posters there was some truth. Katyń was Soviet job. Sikorski has been murdered or by Soviets or by British ... Only part of our national gold reserves came back to Poland after the war.

BartolomeThreads: 2 Posts: 1,342 Joined: Sep 14, 06	Edited by: Bartolome Oct 26, 08, 13:29 / #
SeanBM: Are you sure? and about what were they blaming England? For the defeat, and maybe to break the nation's spirit. I saw once a German poster in French (in former KZ Gross-Rosen/Rogoznica) depicting Polish officer (although the eagle on his czapka was conveniently blurred) being murdered in Katyn by bolshevik monsters . In this case it was rather to attract French (who were in good relations with Poland) to German 'crusade' against USSR. SeanBM: I always liked the Russian communist propaganda, the style of it (I forget the name of the style??) Very strong very powerful Note that here Soviets are put in one line with Western Allies.

MatyjaszThreads: 2 Posts: 1,786 Joined: Jul 20, 06	Oct 26, 08, 13:38 / #
SeanBM: Are you sure? and about what were they blaming England? Yes. It was printed after the September campaign. It was to prevent Polish soldiers joining the allies against Germany. England was depicted here as a traitor, and thus as untrustworthy ally, guilty of the misery inflicted by Poland in 1939.

SeanBMThreads: 41 Posts: 8,647 Joined: Mar 10, 08	Oct 26, 08, 13:40 / #
Great, have you aby further information on this one Matyjasz?

MatyjaszThreads: 2 Posts: 1,786 Joined: Jul 20, 06	Oct 26, 08, 13:48 / #
SeanBM: Great, have you aby further information on this one Matyjasz? Which one?

BartolomeThreads: 2 Posts: 1,342 Joined: Sep 14, 06	Edited by: Bartolome Oct 26, 08, 13:51 / #
SeanBM: how so? I do not really like the style of the western allies propaganda, bit too boring in comparison I was talking about these Serbian posters.

SeanBMThreads: 41 Posts: 8,647 Joined: Mar 10, 08	Oct 26, 08, 14:01 / #
Matyjasz: Which one? All and hopefully more if you have any. It is interesting. Bartolome: I was talking about these Serbian posters. My bad

PoznanThreads: 8 Posts: 72 Joined: Oct 23, 08	Edited by: Poznan Oct 26, 08, 14:43 / #
Crnogorac7: Crnogorac7 The problem is that Soviets were horrible nightmare but Germans had plan to kill all Slavic people...

SeanBMThreads: 41 Posts: 8,647 Joined: Mar 10, 08	Oct 26, 08, 14:47 / #
Poznan: I don't know if you understand it but it is fact. I did not think he was making facts, just showing us something interesting. I have not read Crnogorac7 posts on this topic, so maybe that is something else but as propaganda posters they are wonderful but that does not mean I agree to them, i just find them interesting.

PoznanThreads: 8 Posts: 72 Joined: Oct 23, 08	Edited by: Poznan Oct 26, 08, 14:51 / #
SeanBM: I did not think he was making facts, just showing us something interesting. I have not read Crnogorac7 posts on this topic, so maybe that is something else but as propaganda posters they are wonderful but that does not mean I agree to them, i just find them interesting. I've edited my previous post before your reply. Ok I see your point. German poster discouraging Poles fighting against them in Italy. After shady death of our General Sikorski :

SeanBMThreads: 41 Posts: 8,647 Joined: Mar 10, 08	Oct 26, 08, 14:57 / #
Sorry Poznan, could you translate them, please.

SeanusThreads: 22 Posts: 30,160 Joined: Dec 25, 07	Oct 26, 08, 15:02 / #
Cassino, is that a town in Italy? ;)

McCoyThreads: 46 Posts: 1,755 Joined: Jul 3, 08	Oct 26, 08, 15:04 / #

PoznanThreads: 8 Posts: 72 Joined: Oct 23, 08	Edited by: Poznan Oct 26, 08, 15:07 / #
McCoy: McCoy I don't understand you McCoy. We fought against Nazis and we were sold for Soviets after the war. Our Gold has been confiscated. Many people died in Soviet gulags. It is truth. Katyń happened. Sikorski has been murdered.

SeanBMThreads: 41 Posts: 8,647 Joined: Mar 10, 08	Edited by: SeanBM Oct 26, 08, 15:14 / #
McCoy: McCoy That does not fit in with the rest, it looks Asian to me, it looks strange to me in this context. I will assume it is either a doctored version of a previously existing picture or that they wanted something that did not like the other forms of propaganda?

McCoyThreads: 46 Posts: 1,755 Joined: Jul 3, 08	Oct 26, 08, 15:25 / #
Poznan: I don't understand you McCoy. We fought against Nazis and we were sold for Soviets after the war. Our Gold has been confiscated. Many people died in Soviet gulags. It is truth. Katyń happened. Sikorski has been murdered. mhm, but what exacly are you talking about ? SeanBM: That does not fit in with the rest, the whole Asian samurai thing looks strange to me in this context. I will assume it is either a doctored version of a previously existing picture or that they wanted something that did not like the other forms of propaganda? i found it about month ago, somewhere on the net and now i put it here cause it's definitely a propaganda poster. i don't know anything about where it comes from and who was the target of the propaganda. maybe you can tell me?