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Poland war propaganda poster - can anyone explain this picture?

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PoznanThreads: 8 Posts: 72 Joined: Oct 23, 08	Edited by: Poznan Oct 26, 08, 15:31 / #
<div class="quoting">McCoy: mhm, but what exacly are you talking about ?</div> "Gigant and filthy dwarf" Communist Poster about "AK" - Home Army, in 1944 soldiers of home army were persecuted by Soviets. All those who were able to fight for freedom were dangerous for system. People who fought gINAT Nazis were first to kill by Soviets because they were considered able to fight agains totalitarian systems. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Home_Army The Armia Krajowa (the Home Army, literally translated as the Country's Army), abbreviated "AK", was the dominant Polish resistance movement in World War II German-occupied Poland. It was formed in February 1942 from the Związek Walki Zbrojnej (Union for Armed Struggle) and over the next two years absorbed most other Polish underground forces. It was loyal to the Polish government in exile and constituted the armed wing of what became known as the "Polish Underground State". Estimates of its membership in 1944 range from 200,000 to 600,000, with the most common number being 400,000; that figure would make it not only the largest Polish underground resistance movement but among the two largest in Europe during World War II.

McCoyThreads: 46 Posts: 1,755 Joined: Jul 3, 08	Oct 26, 08, 15:36 / #
SeanBM: Well we know it was against the nazis but the traditional costume the victor is wearing appears to be European. Other than that I have no idea. the victor is polish but i think the picture has been drawn by foreigner couse it's more like a caricature of krakow's folk costume. maybe it's british or american poster.

PoznanThreads: 8 Posts: 72 Joined: Oct 23, 08	Edited by: Poznan Oct 26, 08, 15:46 / #
Poster made by the AK durring German occupation of Poland in WWII "One bullet One German"

puercoespinThreads: 1 Posts: 155 Joined: Jun 8, 08	Oct 26, 08, 15:46 / #
McCoy: the victor is polish but i think the picture has been drawn by foreigner couse it's more like a caricature of krakow's folk costume. maybe it's british or american poster. http://www.szyk.org/szykonline/polandfights.html

SeanBMThreads: 41 Posts: 8,647 Joined: Mar 10, 08	Edited by: SeanBM Oct 26, 08, 15:47 / #
McCoy: maybe it's british or american poster. I would assume also that if the British or Americans were to make such a poster they would put themselves in it, although just trying to get Polish people to fight might have been enough, why's it in English? I have never seen anything like it.

PoznanThreads: 8 Posts: 72 Joined: Oct 23, 08	Edited by: Poznan Oct 26, 08, 16:02 / #
Poster made by the AK "In fight - revange for blood of thousends Poles"

Bratwurst BoyThreads: 11 Posts: 14,563 Joined: Apr 2, 07	Edited by: Bratwurst Boy Oct 26, 08, 16:03 / #
What about Nazi anti-polish posters? There must have been alot but somehow I can't find any... The seemingly lack of them is really interesting, don't you think?

McCoyThreads: 46 Posts: 1,755 Joined: Jul 3, 08	Oct 26, 08, 16:13 / #
this one is my favorite

Bratwurst BoyThreads: 11 Posts: 14,563 Joined: Apr 2, 07	Oct 26, 08, 16:16 / #
....just propaganda, not so successful! :)

Oct 26, 08, 16:40 / #

It is amazing what you find on the internet

Crnogorac7Threads: 1 Posts: 42 Joined: Oct 10, 08	Edited by: Crnogorac7 Oct 26, 08, 16:45 / #
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Bratwurst BoyThreads: 11 Posts: 14,563 Joined: Apr 2, 07	Oct 26, 08, 16:46 / #
SeanBM: It is amazing what you find on the internet This nose..... :)

McCoyThreads: 46 Posts: 1,755 Joined: Jul 3, 08	Edited by: McCoy Oct 26, 08, 16:53 / #
Bratwurst Boy: ....just propaganda, not so successful! :) the poster has been created during Warsaw Uprising and they were very thrifty :) but forget it, just say it loud: KAZDY POCISK JEDEN NIEMIEC. it still sounds like a music to the ears, isn't it? :)

Edited by: SeanBM Oct 26, 08, 16:57 / #

That is some heavy stuff there Crnogorac7 again very interesting.

I do not know where this thread is going...
But the visuals are amazing, It must be incredible working for the propaganda machine on any side.
To go to work each day and dream up the most nightmarish stuff, truly fascinating, you would go a wee bit bonkers though.

I don't under stand the text but the message, I think is clear enough.

PoznanThreads: 8 Posts: 72 Joined: Oct 23, 08	Oct 26, 08, 17:03 / #
SeanBM: We have not had any pro communist stuff yet, I will have a wee surf. We had one at the begining of this page. If you want something more ideological

McCoyThreads: 46 Posts: 1,755 Joined: Jul 3, 08	Edited by: McCoy Oct 26, 08, 17:05 / #
SeanBM: I don't under stand the text narod i armija jediny - the nation and the army united (i think) na obronu CCCP - to protect the soviet union

BartolomeThreads: 2 Posts: 1,342 Joined: Sep 14, 06	Oct 26, 08, 17:07 / #
Plenty of Soviet posters: URL

Edited by: SeanBM Oct 26, 08, 17:09 / #

Poznan:

We had one at the begining of this page.

Yes, i momentarily forgot.

Here is old English propaganda, depicting an Irish monster. More English propaganda against Irish. URL

PoznanThreads: 8 Posts: 72 Joined: Oct 23, 08	Edited by: Poznan Oct 26, 08, 17:12 / #
Soviet anti Polish poster from 1920. "It is how we end lords ideas"

PoznanThreads: 8 Posts: 72 Joined: Oct 23, 08	Edited by: Poznan Oct 26, 08, 17:46 / #
Antoher Soviet posters with Poles being bad characters. This one is similar to previous. "It was like that Now it is like this" Soviet anti spy poster (spy has Polish uniform) Soviet anti Polish poster

SeanBMThreads: 41 Posts: 8,647 Joined: Mar 10, 08	Edited by: SeanBM Oct 26, 08, 18:04 / #
There seems to be similarities in all of these. There are 5 stereotypes :- 1. The peasant 2. the soldier 3. The fat cat 4. The brains behind it all 5. The viewer I include the viewer because it is important who he is. You could probably change the wording or a little symbol and use it against the people who made it?

Oct 27, 08, 03:18 / #

Slogan made by Propaganda Minister Josef Goebbels.

Bratwurst BoyThreads: 11 Posts: 14,563 Joined: Apr 2, 07	Edited by: Bratwurst Boy Oct 27, 08, 04:23 / #
McCoy: it still sounds like a music to the ears, isn't it? :) Polish never sounds like music..sorry! :):):) PS: And still no Nazi anti-polish poster...didn't they need one??? Interesting! puercoespin: Slogan made by Propaganda Minister Josef Goebbels. Not really! This saying existed long before and was actually a good one...

Edited by: SeanBM Oct 27, 08, 04:27 / #

I know that one it is the entrance to Auschwitz.
puercoespin, does that mean "Work will free you"?

I have been thinking about this topic a lot.

The first world war, I always thought it was amazing that WW1 was called "The Great War", perhaps language has changed since then?

Uncle Sam	British Kinda Bull Dog WW1
I love this one, very persuasive in my opinion

McCoyThreads: 46 Posts: 1,755 Joined: Jul 3, 08	Oct 27, 08, 04:49 / #
Bratwurst Boy: PS: And still no Nazi anti-polish poster...didn't they need one???Interesting! you were always one step ahead. you made a propaganda films.

Bratwurst BoyThreads: 11 Posts: 14,563 Joined: Apr 2, 07	Edited by: Bratwurst Boy Oct 27, 08, 04:52 / #
McCoy: you were always one step ahead. you made a propaganda films. Well, even so...we had still alot of posters too...URL It's just mystifying that there aren't any anti-polish ones! What could that mean? Maybe that the Poles weren't seen as enemies like the Bolscheviks or the Jews in the first place? Hmm....I'm really wondering here...

Oct 27, 08, 06:22 / #

Bratwurst Boy:

alot of posters too

Holy Moly, they are scary :)

Some of the Nazi stuff looks really gay to me.
Even some of the videos linger on the young men just a little too long, if you know what I mean.
Perhaps it is just my perception but see for yourself, see what I mean?

Bratwurst BoyThreads: 11 Posts: 14,563 Joined: Apr 2, 07	Edited by: Bratwurst Boy Oct 27, 08, 06:25 / #
I think it was the fashion of the time...the stalinist poster aren't exactly the disabled, glass wearing neighbour sort either! :) But I don't see exactly gayness in them, especially not in the children/youth poster...he isn't that pretty.... But if that isn't gay then I don't know! :):):)

BartolomeThreads: 2 Posts: 1,342 Joined: Sep 14, 06	Edited by: Bartolome Oct 27, 08, 06:33 / #
Bratwurst Boy: But if that isn't gay then I don't know! :):):) Damn, I saw this poster in a book about Soviet armor in aggression on Poland in '39 and it became my favourite Soviet poster of all times :) The quote (from Stalin, obviously) says: 'Our army is the one for liberation of the woking ones'. It doesn't say what kind of 'liberation' Great Stalin had on his Great Mind :)

KrzysztofThreads: 2 Posts: 1,146 Joined: Jul 26, 07	Oct 27, 08, 06:33 / #
Bratwurst Boy: What about Nazi anti-polish posters? There must have been alot but somehow I can't find any... The seemingly lack of them is really interesting, don't you think? Germany's anti-polish posters addressed to whom? What "target audience" do you mean?