Poland war propaganda poster - can anyone explain this picture?

In his book Late Victorian Holocausts, published in 2001, Mike Davis tells the story of famines that killed between 12 million and 29 million Indians. These people were, he demonstrates, murdered by British state policy.

Three recent books — Britain's Gulag by Caroline Elkins, Histories of the Hanged by David Anderson, and Web of Deceit by Mark Curtis — show how white settlers and British troops suppressed the Mau Mau revolt in Kenya in the 1950s. Thrown off their best land and deprived of political rights, the Kikuyu started to organise — some of them violently — against colonial rule. The British responded by driving up to 320,000 of them into concentration camps.

These are just two examples of at least 20 such atrocities overseen and organised by the British Government or British colonial settlers; they include, for example, the Tasmanian genocide, the use of collective punishment in Malaya, the bombing of villages in Oman, the dirty war in North Yemen, the evacuation of Diego Garcia. Some of them might trigger a vague, brainstem memory in a few thousand readers, but most people would have no idea what I am talking about. The British journalist Max Hastings laments Britons' "relative lack of interest" in Stalin and Mao's crimes. But at least we are aware that they happened.

McCoy:

that proves british cleverness. they had half of the world goods and territory. what did you accomplishe with your wars?

Bratwurst BoyThreads: 11 Posts: 14,563 Joined: Apr 2, 07	Edited by: Bratwurst Boy Oct 28, 08, 11:41 / #
McCoy: hahaha, good one mate Wanna compare? Boy if you wouldn't had meddled with Iraq or the ME in your high time we wouldn't even have today's wars there...Brits better shut up! The biggest warmongers, invaders and exploiters of all people over centuries! Another good outcome of WWII, the Brits getting broke and losing all their stuff!

szarlotkaThreads: 14 Posts: 3,340 Joined: Feb 20, 07	Oct 28, 08, 11:53 / #
Bratwurst Boy: A Britisher is asking this? Arf! Look BB. We Brits have never, ever invaded any other country. We merely used to send out large cultural delegations to those far flung places.

Bratwurst BoyThreads: 11 Posts: 14,563 Joined: Apr 2, 07	Oct 28, 08, 11:54 / #
szarlotka: Look BB. We Brits have never, ever invaded any other country. We merely used to send out large cultural delegations to those far flung places. Oh! Okay...sorry....my fault! :)

SeanBMThreads: 41 Posts: 8,647 Joined: Mar 10, 08	Edited by: SeanBM Oct 28, 08, 11:54 / #
Less talking more propaganda, This should be a propaganda picture war! And so far Germany has not invaded Poland much. I might need to bring up the auld potatoes famine posters.....

Bratwurst BoyThreads: 11 Posts: 14,563 Joined: Apr 2, 07	Oct 28, 08, 11:56 / #
SeanBM: And so far Germany has not invaded Poland much. Was there a war actually? I'm starting to doubt....:)

SeanBMThreads: 41 Posts: 8,647 Joined: Mar 10, 08	Edited by: SeanBM Oct 28, 08, 11:58 / #
Bratwurst Boy: Was there a war actually? I'm starting to doubt....:) Well nobody can find any propaganda picture, so i guess not.

McCoyThreads: 46 Posts: 1,755 Joined: Jul 3, 08	Oct 28, 08, 12:02 / #
Bratwurst Boy: Wanna compare?Boy if you wouldn't had meddled with Iraq or the ME in your high time wewouldn't even have today's wars there...Brits better shut up! The biggestwarmongers, invaders and exploiters of all people over centuries!Another good outcome of WWII, the Brits getting broke and losing all their stuff! easy, bboy, easy :) first of all i'm not a brit. second: brits wanted to conquer the world and they succeed. in many god forbidden places they left the candle of civilisation. when germans wanted to make world german they just made a mess and left graves and ruins behind. see the difference? just like between the painter and retarded kid with coloured pencils :)

KilklineThreads: 3 Posts: 894 Joined: Jul 23, 07	Oct 28, 08, 12:11 / #
Bratwurst Boy: Wanna compare? Boy if you wouldn't had meddled with Iraq or the ME in your high time we wouldn't even have today's wars there...Brits better shut up! The biggest warmongers, invaders and exploiters of all people over centuries! We were the innovators, you boys were just imitators. Britain never needed a propaganda ministry either. You dont need one when you know you're right.

McCoyThreads: 46 Posts: 1,755 Joined: Jul 3, 08	Oct 28, 08, 12:14 / #
SeanBM: What? that was the exact thinking that was used to "passification" of Ireland. oh, i dont mean ireland when i'm talking about god forbidden places. i thought about india & africa or scotland ;))

SeanBMThreads: 41 Posts: 8,647 Joined: Mar 10, 08	Oct 28, 08, 12:15 / #
come on people back up your words with propaganda pictures, for a change?

KilklineThreads: 3 Posts: 894 Joined: Jul 23, 07	Oct 28, 08, 12:28 / #
Bratwurst Boy: So, empire building was right for the Brits but wrong for everybody else? Not everyone else, just Germans. You've been shown to make a bit of hash of it old boy. Know your limits Gerry!

ShelleySThreads: 18 Posts: 3,647 Joined: Jun 26, 07	Edited by: ShelleyS Oct 28, 08, 12:30 / #
Bratwurst Boy: So, empire building was right for the Brits but wrong for everybody else? ;-) Kilkline: Not everyone else, just Germans. You've been shown to make a bit of hash of it old boy. Know your limits Gerry! PMSL :) - Sorry Butty, we love you but you cannot compare what the Brits did to what Germany did :(

Bratwurst BoyThreads: 11 Posts: 14,563 Joined: Apr 2, 07	Edited by: Bratwurst Boy Oct 28, 08, 12:32 / #
Kilkline: Not everyone else, just Germans. You've been shown to make a bit of hash of it old boy. Know your limits Gerry! Nah..I think we just learned to chose our battlefields more carefully! It works...we are topdogs in Europe now and you are the US lapdogs...:) We won in the end! War is so out! Germany achieves more than our ancestors ever dreamed of and all without a bullet fired! Smarties we are...:)

SiegfriedThreads: 2 Posts: 103 Joined: Aug 8, 08	Oct 28, 08, 12:56 / #
hmmm.... "we will teach you how to speak english, we will teach you how to worship(?) our queen, we will teach you how to drive on left... and all we want in return is just you gold." that's what my british friend told me about english colonization scheme ;]

miranda	Oct 28, 08, 12:20 / #
Bratwurst Boy: Boy if you wouldn't had meddled with Iraq or the ME in your high time we wouldn't even have today's wars there...Brits better shut up! The biggest warmongers, invaders and exploiters of all people over centuries! Another good outcome of WWII, the Brits getting broke and losing all their stuff! German point of view szarlotka: We Brits have never, ever invaded any other country. We merely used to send out large cultural delegations to those far flung places. British point of view McCoy: easy, bboy, easy :) first of all i'm not a brit. second: brits wanted to conquer the world and they succeed. in many god forbidden places they left the candle of civilisation. when germans wanted to make world german they just made a mess and left graves and ruins behind. see the difference? just like between the painter and retarded kid with coloured pencils :) McCoy's point of view

Bratwurst BoyThreads: 11 Posts: 14,563 Joined: Apr 2, 07	Edited by: Bratwurst Boy Oct 28, 08, 12:21 / #
Kilkline: We were the innovators, you boys were just imitators. Britain never needed a propaganda ministry either. You dont need one when you know you're right. So, empire building was right for the Brits but wrong for everybody else? Anyway...I don't think the big masses in GB profited much from your conquests...handy cannonfodder, nothing more! McCoy: brits wanted to conquer the world and they succeed. in many god forbidden places they left the candle of civilisation. when germans wanted to make world german they just made a mess and left graves and ruins behind. see the difference? Well..if we had chosen to fight some backwater tribe like say...the Zulus... we might have had the same success as the Brits....ooops!

McCoyThreads: 46 Posts: 1,755 Joined: Jul 3, 08	Oct 28, 08, 12:22 / #
miranda: McCoy's point of view = true

Bratwurst BoyThreads: 11 Posts: 14,563 Joined: Apr 2, 07	Edited by: Bratwurst Boy Oct 28, 08, 12:26 / #
McCoy: = true Would you see it the same if the Brits had decided to "civilize" your sorry corner of the world?

McCoyThreads: 46 Posts: 1,755 Joined: Jul 3, 08	Edited by: McCoy Oct 28, 08, 12:36 / #
Bratwurst Boy: Well..if we had chosen to fight some backwater tribe like say...the Zulus... we might have had the same success as the Brits....ooops! that proves british cleverness. they had half of the world goods and territory. what did you accomplishe with your wars? Bratwurst Boy: Would you see it the same if the Brits had decided to "civilize" your sorry corner of the world? would your mama be your papa if she had a mustache ?

szarlotkaThreads: 14 Posts: 3,340 Joined: Feb 20, 07	Oct 28, 08, 12:36 / #
Bratwurst Boy: So, empire building was right for the Brits but wrong for everybody else? No it was right for the English. If I mention Scotland and Panama and the Act of Union you would realise that Scotland weren't terribly good at the old empire building bit.

Bratwurst BoyThreads: 11 Posts: 14,563 Joined: Apr 2, 07	Edited by: Bratwurst Boy Oct 28, 08, 12:38 / #
ShelleyS: Sorry Butty, we love you but you cannot compare what the Brits did to what Germany did :( Why not? URL In his book Late Victorian Holocausts, published in 2001, Mike Davis tells the story of famines that killed between 12 million and 29 million Indians. These people were, he demonstrates, murdered by British state policy. Three recent books — Britain's Gulag by Caroline Elkins, Histories of the Hanged by David Anderson, and Web of Deceit by Mark Curtis — show how white settlers and British troops suppressed the Mau Mau revolt in Kenya in the 1950s. Thrown off their best land and deprived of political rights, the Kikuyu started to organise — some of them violently — against colonial rule. The British responded by driving up to 320,000 of them into concentration camps. These are just two examples of at least 20 such atrocities overseen and organised by the British Government or British colonial settlers; they include, for example, the Tasmanian genocide, the use of collective punishment in Malaya, the bombing of villages in Oman, the dirty war in North Yemen, the evacuation of Diego Garcia. Some of them might trigger a vague, brainstem memory in a few thousand readers, but most people would have no idea what I am talking about. The British journalist Max Hastings laments Britons' "relative lack of interest" in Stalin and Mao's crimes. But at least we are aware that they happened. McCoy: that proves british cleverness. they had half of the world goods and territory. what did you accomplishe with your wars? Well...which enemies did you had to fight? What happens when you face a REAL enemy the world saw at Dunkirk! LOL McCoy: would your mama be your papa if she had a mustache ? So, when an english soldier goes on about invading, conquering, killing and exploiting it's rather a thing to be proud of but if it's a German you don't like it? Sorry McArse, can't take you seriously anymore!

McCoyThreads: 46 Posts: 1,755 Joined: Jul 3, 08	Oct 28, 08, 12:48 / #
in my whole life i have never took any german seriously, no exeption for you karautwat boy :)

Bratwurst BoyThreads: 11 Posts: 14,563 Joined: Apr 2, 07	Oct 28, 08, 12:50 / #
Well...you could have fooled me! :):):)

szarlotkaThreads: 14 Posts: 3,340 Joined: Feb 20, 07	Oct 28, 08, 12:59 / #
Siegfried: that's what my british friend told me about english colonization scheme It worked didn't it. Compared with the US model of: "You will franchise your high streets to McDonalds and Starbucks" "You will learn to love the NFL and NBA" "You will make all women cheerleaders...." it seems quite refershing

Bratwurst BoyThreads: 11 Posts: 14,563 Joined: Apr 2, 07	Oct 28, 08, 13:02 / #
szarlotka: "You will learn to love the NFL and NBA" I will...WHAT??? So far they were not really successful...:(

szarlotkaThreads: 14 Posts: 3,340 Joined: Feb 20, 07	Oct 28, 08, 13:03 / #
Bratwurst Boy: So far they were not really successful...:( Maybe not... yet. Rome wasn't built in a day, even with Polish builders

southernThreads: 116 Posts: 10,900 Joined: May 17, 07	Oct 28, 08, 13:03 / #
The Germans will make you love Lederhosen.

szarlotkaThreads: 14 Posts: 3,340 Joined: Feb 20, 07	Oct 28, 08, 13:05 / #
southern: The Germans will make you love Lederhosen. Is that Lederhosen on Polish girls or hairy arsed Austrian males. It makes a difference you know.

SeanBMThreads: 41 Posts: 8,647 Joined: Mar 10, 08	Edited by: SeanBM Oct 28, 08, 13:05 / #
There is only a thin paint of true civilized behaviour on the English. They still think like imperialists and how they take pride in their bloody past. Oh and they don't wear enough hats :)