POLES ARE HEROES AND JEW-SAVERS

MareGaea:

Again Joe comes with ONE opinion of ONE person and claims it to be the truth, even if hundreds say it's not true...Just like the traficking. One of the country those women go to is Israël among dozens of countries - and the trafickers are overwhelmingly Russian and Turkish, yet it's an all-Israeli trade.

Stop thinking in groups, start thinking in individuals. You'll grow a better person out of it.

yehudiThreads: 1 Posts: 871 Joined: Jul 27, 08	Edited by: yehudi Sep 9, 09, 16:16 / #
A- Jerusalem area, Galilee, Jaffa B- Tel Aviv, Jezreel Valley, Haifa. Jerusalem on a religious holiday. Kfar Etzion. D- Golan, Northern Galilee, Negev, Dead Sea F- Jerusalem (Hassidic, Armenians, Arabs), Carmel Mountains (Druze), Lower Galilee (Circassians, Arabs), Northern Negev (Beduin). For details you can email me. MareGaea: I don't agree to point B. You're right. The reason I emphasized "new" jewish homeland is that I meant that aspect of Israel that concerns rebuilding the homeland, building cities, farms and new communities. What people refer to as "making the desert bloom".

mvefaThreads: 11 Posts: 972 Joined: Jul 21, 09	Sep 9, 09, 16:33 / #
yehudi: a- as the land where the bible took place b- as the new Jewish homeland c- the conflicts and wars d- scenery and nature e- High Tech centers f- Ethnic enclaves (Hassidic, Arabs, Druze, Beduin, Circassians, Armenians) There's a lot to see in a small area. Dont forget sport oportunities ;) I would recommend though if you want to do snorkle/dive in the red sea, pass the border to one of the beaches south of Aqaba in Jordan, much less touristic than Eliat in Israel, much cheaper and quietter. Not to forget the galilean sea, great to spend one or two chilling out days. Man i want to go back hehe,,,great country!

Mr GrunwaldThreads: 34 Posts: 2,358 Joined: Dec 16, 08	Sep 9, 09, 17:05 / #
MareGaea: - ppl collaborate out of self-preservation, they want to survive; - ppl collaborate out of greed, it doesn't matter for which asset; - ppl collaborate because of the sense of power it gives them; - ppl collaborate out of hatred. - ppl collaborate out of falling in love with a fuctionaire or Officer (Bad luck I tell you)

Easy_TerranThreads: 4 Posts: 473 Joined: Mar 31, 08	Sep 10, 09, 04:57 / #
Sep 10, 09, 04:58 - Thread attached on merging: A response to "POLES ARE HEROES AND JEW-SAVERS" Sure they were not! Said Eli Roth, a film goblin: "(...)that film critic should be fcking fired, 'cuz he's a fcking idiot, cuz if you're learning a holokaust education in a year of 2009 from going to a cinema and not in a school or from your parents or history - you're a f*cking idiot(...)" Thank YAHVE our boy did not skip family meetings, nor he did skip the school, so he learnt a LOT from HIS family and THE history and totally NOT, once again NOT from the movies. Site in Polish but simply hit the 'play' button Mr. Roth shines like a XV (that is 1500TH) century knight with his -pathetic as the matter of fact- knowledge. His 'my-grandpa-told-me' knowledge, to be exact.

gregy741Threads: - Posts: 61 Joined: Dec 3, 09	Dec 6, 09, 20:19 / #
this idiot forgot that a lot of Jewish also colaborated with nazis.the were plenty Jewish capos in aushwits.itd today on youtube the documentary video ("the true history of Poland")showing polish people helping jews during 2WW was removed from the site.This indicate how strong and powerfull antipolish propaganda is among jews. on polish land siezed by russians in 1939,russians started destruction of polish intiligencia,in this process jews played crucial part helping russians.There is no a single example that we know showing jew ever helped a single pole from siberia gulags.

SeanusThreads: 22 Posts: 30,158 Joined: Dec 25, 07	Dec 6, 09, 20:22 / #
True enough, they sided with the Nazis but perhaps out of a sense of survival.

cheehawThreads: 9 Posts: 831 Joined: Oct 10, 09	Edited by: cheehaw Dec 6, 09, 20:56 / #
gregy741: This indicate how strong and powerfull antipolish propaganda is among jews. I have noticed that too. Odd situation there. Seanus: True enough, they sided with the Nazis but perhaps out of a sense of survival. I'm sort of under the impression that they simply felt (feel) a kinship in the racial purity quest. German zionists strongly supported Hitler's ideas on that basis. Plus the financial brown-nosing, lots of money in German and Swiss banks. Lots of European nations paying Israel.. I'm not sure how real the german love for the jew is though, considering the jewish criminal element.

SeanusThreads: 22 Posts: 30,158 Joined: Dec 25, 07	Edited by: Seanus Dec 6, 09, 21:31 / #
Well, just look at Prescott Bush and what he got up to ;) Bzibzioh, garbage! You clearly haven't read up on Szpilman. He makes the point very clearly and I've quoted passages from it elsewhere.

BzibziohThreads: 6 Posts: 3,657 Joined: Oct 15, 08 [Suspended]	Dec 6, 09, 21:48 / #
For some reason I read your post as "they sided with the Russians but perhaps out of a sense of survival" so was my response "survival my ass" and then I realized my mistake. Seanus: Bzibzioh, garbage! You didn't need to be rude. Bite me!

SeanusThreads: 22 Posts: 30,158 Joined: Dec 25, 07	Dec 6, 09, 21:50 / #
I wasn't rude, garbage is just another word for nonsense in BrE. If I came across as rude, I apologise. It was emphatic without intending to be unmannerly. Now, where shall I bite you? ;) ;)

pawianThreads: 90 Posts: 5,387 Joined: May 30, 08	Dec 6, 09, 23:07 / #
Polonius3: The Polish Hero, one who saved Jews and fought the occupier is the most prominent image that Poles have of themselves from World War II, according to a poll by Pentor. A majority also think that that Poles suffered more than even Jews during Nazi occupation. Oops. National myths hold strong......

cheehawThreads: 9 Posts: 831 Joined: Oct 10, 09	Edited by: cheehaw Dec 6, 09, 23:08 / #
and you need to look into illegal organ trading too.. a big black market. Palestinians who have been killed by the IDF have even been picked up off the street, after being killed and carried off by israelis and then dumped back on the street, ripped of vital organs. 40+ people were arrested in the USA just a few months ago in connection with this type of stuff.. Israeli dual citizens, even rabbis on the list. I am not sure if slavery is still legal or illegal in Israel.. it was still legal in 2004.. one of the few countries in the world .. anyway, all sorts of problems. And the crime is worldwide, a lot of Israelis are dual citizens in other countries.. so if jews complain about bashing, they sort of need to clean up the act in Israel before pointing fingers at the complainers. Drugs, sex slavery, money laundering, organ trading, crimes against children.. you name it. all sorts using Israel for a refuge and safe haven where they know they won't be prosecuted. all you have to do is convert to judaism, grow a long beard and wear a black coat, and in Israel this gets you all the respect you need regardless of what you do for a living.

yehudiThreads: 1 Posts: 871 Joined: Jul 27, 08	Dec 7, 09, 11:32 / #
cheehaw: Drugs, sex slavery, money laundering, organ trading, crimes against children.. you name it. Sure, you name it. You can say any idiotic thing you want on the internet because no one knows or cares who you are, so it doesn't matter if it's true or if it comes from your SS Man comics. Or maybe Jesus told you this when you had your holy epiphany. If you don't watch out I'll get my bearded pals to suck out your kidneys and sell them on Ebay as bookends.

cheehawThreads: 9 Posts: 831 Joined: Oct 10, 09	Dec 7, 09, 17:52 / #
yehudi: If you don't watch out I'll get my bearded pals to suck out your kidneys and sell them on Ebay as bookends. Thanks. We'll just add you to the list of more positive proof of the Israeli crime syndicate.

cheehawThreads: 9 Posts: 831 Joined: Oct 10, 09	Dec 6, 09, 22:20 / #
Seanus: Well, just look at Prescott Bush and what he got up to ;) yeah I'm pretty sure he was a German. America has all sorts, keep that in mind. But today's Israel is a haven for criminals, they don't prosecute their own jews for a lot of crimes that would get someone a life sentence in another country. So, if you are a criminal, it pays heftily to convert to judaism and obtain israeli citizenship.

SeanusThreads: 22 Posts: 30,158 Joined: Dec 25, 07	Dec 6, 09, 22:24 / #
I don't know how true that is on a microscale, cheehaw, but it's very evident on a macroscale where they won't even conduct an investigation into OCL, carried out a year ago. According to the pronouncements of the ICJ, a very high-level court, they are in flagrant violation of international law but they see fit to ignore them. I know that they have all kinds of spyrings and childporn rings. That is sth of a tradition there.

mateinoneThreads: 10 Posts: 78 Joined: Mar 15, 09	Dec 7, 09, 12:13 / #
MareGaea: - ppl collaborate out of self-preservation, they want to survive; - ppl collaborate out of greed, it doesn't matter for which asset; - ppl collaborate because of the sense of power it gives them; - ppl collaborate out of hatred. I think it is fair to say that at least a decent % of collaborators would do so believing that they can make things more bearable for others. Now this is not collaboration to the level of giving away hiding spots of the underground or anything like that. I am talking more about taking a senior role in the community. If someone honest can do that, whilst keeping out someone who will use the position for their own gain, is that not a form of "positive collaboration"?

joepilsudskiThreads: 44 Posts: 2,529 Joined: Apr 27, 07	Edited by: joepilsudski Dec 7, 09, 18:19 / #
UKRANIAN CHILDREN USED FOR ORGAN HARVESTING: REVENGE FOR CHMIELNICKI http://jta.org/news/article/2009/12/03/1009509/ukrainian-professor-isr ael-harvests-childrens-organs

derek trotterThreads: 12 Posts: 252 Joined: Apr 10, 09	Dec 7, 09, 18:25 / #
joepilsudski do you have particular pleasure with browsing Jewish media Joe?

joepilsudskiThreads: 44 Posts: 2,529 Joined: Apr 27, 07	Edited by: joepilsudski Dec 7, 09, 18:33 / #
Original Ha'aretz article pulled, but available from Google cache...Some background on the issue, and feelings in the Ukraine, and political implications: http://aangirfan.blogspot.com/2009/12/jews-ukraine-harvesting-of-child rens.html DerekTrotter: joepilsudski do you have particular pleasure with browsing Jewish media Joe? I browse all media when I have the opportunity...BTW, this story has gotten world wide play, but became widely publicized when Ha'aretz featured it...Ukranian media is not available in the US, unless one really digs on the 'net...This story didn't make the Washington Post, of course...Our friend Yehudi made some reference to the matter.

cheehawThreads: 9 Posts: 831 Joined: Oct 10, 09	Dec 8, 09, 02:52 / #
why do I get the impression joe,,, no one ever taught yehudi, 'cheehaw'? just pride pride pride.. somebody catch me a rainbow...

MareGaeaThreads: 45 Posts: 5,527 Joined: Feb 6, 08	Edited by: MareGaea Dec 8, 09, 12:24 / #
Again Joe comes with ONE opinion of ONE person and claims it to be the truth, even if hundreds say it's not true...Just like the traficking. One of the country those women go to is Israël among dozens of countries - and the trafickers are overwhelmingly Russian and Turkish, yet it's an all-Israeli trade. Stop thinking in groups, start thinking in individuals. You'll grow a better person out of it. mateinone What you describe is the attitude of most Jewish "collaborators" which have been burned to the ground on this forum and been called the justification for the Holocaust by some. I do agree with you though, but I would rather use the term "passive resistance" or "inactive resistance" instead of "positive collaboration". >^..^< M-G (reckons that cheehaw didn't even know what "tiens" means when she copied my sig)

SeanusThreads: 22 Posts: 30,158 Joined: Dec 25, 07	Dec 8, 09, 13:54 / #
SeanBM made the same point on the weekend and it's a very good one. We need to see people as individuals and forget the clubbing. When sb asks me where I'm from, I just say Earth now. Seanus (even then I'm not convinced but I'm working on it)

MareGaeaThreads: 45 Posts: 5,527 Joined: Feb 6, 08	Dec 8, 09, 14:37 / #
Seanus That's what I have been saying all the time, Seanus, and I think you've understood that all along... I was busy last few days, so I haven't been around; kinda missed that remark by SBM. But indeed: we do not own Earth, Earth owns us. And we are from Earth and the rest is BS, if you don't mind my saying so. >^..^< M-G (tiens)

SeanusThreads: 22 Posts: 30,158 Joined: Dec 25, 07	Dec 8, 09, 14:43 / #
Exactly! The biggest fault of historians or historical commentators is their lack of awareness that they weren't there and didn't live in those times. Many seem so sure of themselves when they should try to evaluate the sources more. That's the next big issue, how people seem to have moved away from the uni-style position of analysing sources, instead preferring to go in all guns blazing. My contention stays, some are heroes and some aren't. They lived under torrid conditions.

joepilsudskiThreads: 44 Posts: 2,529 Joined: Apr 27, 07	Dec 26, 09, 23:58 / #
MareGaea: Again Joe comes with ONE opinion of ONE person and claims it to be the truth, even if hundreds say it's not true...Just like the traficking. One of the country those women go to is Israël among dozens of countries - and the trafickers are overwhelmingly Russian and Turkish, yet it's an all-Israeli trade. Stop thinking in groups, start thinking in individuals. You'll grow a better person out of it. Number one, I present a news story, this one following on the Aftenblatt story on Israeli trade in organs, and the arrest of certain criminal groups, headed by rabbis, arrested by the FBI in the USA for involvement in the same...I find it interesting, that on attempting to do a follow up to the Ukrainian professors report, that I can get no more information on this...Perhaps someone has a link to Ukrainian publications that go deeper into this...This kind of story is blacklisted in the Western press...There were reports here, in alternative press, of US contractor involvement in such organ trafficking, both in the Balkans and Iraq...DynCorp Corporation (big Bush connected 'security/services' contractor) was mentioned, even some Congressmen asked questions, but it was buried. The Chinese have been also reported to be heavily involved in this, as reported by Jewish investigative reporter Sherman Skolnick (now deceased). As far as looking at individuals as individuals, this is the only way I look at them...Do you ever see me make statements such as 'all Jews are evil' or such nonsense?...The answer is: NO...However, the Israelis have gotten a free pass, 'get out of jail free' card for many years, to the tune of billions, even TRILLIONS, of USA taxpayer money...You have a ton of movies in the US about 'Italian Mafia'...This is just fact...But 'Jewish Mafia'?...Not permitted. And what we have here is really a step up from old mafia, as technology and science permit even greater abominations than in the past.

NathanThreads: 33 Posts: 1,846 Joined: Feb 13, 09	Edited by: Nathan Dec 27, 09, 03:48 / #
MareGaea: Again Joe comes with ONE opinion of ONE person and claims it to be the truth, even if hundreds say it's not true... Who are these hundreds? Do you call media controlled by a group of well-known people to be an opinion of hundreds? MareGaea: Stop thinking in groups, start thinking in individuals. You'll grow a better person out of it. I think you will have to grow up yourself before telling it to others. Your words: MareGaea: Why do you need proof? There is plenty of proof out there - it's like saying: "proof that Hitler caused WW2". Ukrainians, Lithuanians and Latvians were very enthousiastic helpers of the Nazis. How do you think here in groups or in individuals, hm? I never received your answer for the Dutch and their dominance as Nazi collaborators in WWll. Or it is incorrect to say wrong about Jews and Dutch, while any other nations you may tarnish with your tongue? I hope, MG, you will grow a better person. Start with not being a double-faced ah.

MareGaeaThreads: 45 Posts: 5,527 Joined: Feb 6, 08	Edited by: MareGaea Dec 29, 09, 16:07 / #
Nathan: Who are these hundreds? Take a look around you boy. Stop looking at only your own congregation. Do some research, you will know that it's the vast majority. And stop this nonsense conspiracy-sh*t of controlled media. While I am sure there will be some control, in the majority of countries, there is freedom of press. Amazing how ppl who don't agree to certain facts always claim the media is manipulated. They're like little children sometimes. Nathan: I think you will have to grow up yourself before telling it to others. Like I said: stop thinking in groups, start thinking in individuals. Nathan: I never received your answer for the Dutch and their dominance as Nazi collaborators in WWll. Here's your answer: Ukraine, Belorus, Latvia and Lithuania delivered the most Nazi-collaborators. I am not even talking about Hungary, Rumania, Croatia and on and on. >^..^< M-G (everybody knows that - stop being so ignorant)