POLES ARE HEROES AND JEW-SAVERS

Harry:

No, let's just tell him that Kosova is now an independent state recognised by the vast majority of the civilised world and that no longer will his brave Serbian heroes be allowed to rape and murder their way arround neighbouring countries. The world has now learned that when Serbs are faced with force nearly equal to their own, they turn and run like rabbits; but if they are not faced with force nearly equal to their own they behave in a way not seen since the Nazis darkened Europe.

HarryThreads: 62 Posts: 8,508 Joined: May 2, 07 [Suspended]	Aug 20, 09, 21:34 / #
PlasticPole: Harry you are the most narrow minded of them all. I would never visit those depressing places. Yes, why on earth would you want to actually learn about those places? What could you possibly learn from visiting the museums at Sobibor or Belzec? PlasticPole: I am throwing out ideas that make sense and you are just believing a bunch of rote lies and propaganda without even questioning. Open up your mind. Open up your mind. One question people have about WWII: Why were there so many death camps and concentration camps in Poland and I am offering possible answers and you are reciting rhetoric. Care to do some independent thinking? Thanks but how about we stick to the historical facts and you can do the moronic retard impression, sorry, I mean the independent thinking for us.

vetalaThreads: - Posts: 512 Joined: Jul 10, 09	Aug 20, 09, 22:40 / #
Harry: Thanks but how about we stick to the historical facts and you can do the moronic retard impression, sorry, I mean the independent thinking for us. Yet another wise advice from Harry the Moral Guardian. How ironic. PlasticPole - concentration camps were built in Poland because of the resistance and the growing need for slave labour. Death camps were built here because it was easier to transport a few hundred thousand Jews from other countries to Poland than 3 million from Poland to other countries. Also you all seem to forget about Einsatzgruppen. Most Eastern European Jews have never even seen a death camp but were simply slaughtered on spot.

PlasticPoleThreads: 10 Posts: 5,429 Joined: May 28, 09	Aug 20, 09, 22:59 / #
Harry: Thanks but how about we stick to the historical facts and you can do the moronic retard impression, sorry, I mean the independent thinking for us. Tell me what the facts are? Do you even know them? Most likely not judging by how you post.

1jolaThreads: 33 Posts: 2,737 Joined: Sep 23, 08	Aug 21, 09, 09:10 / #
TheOther: You know, I have no reason to question what my father, who grew up in Poland after the war, told me. And if you look at many of the postings here on PF you will probably agree that quite a few ultra-nationalists need a change in their mindset. I suggest a hearty brainwash for that purpose. Your father's stories are hardly a good source, history books are, especially written post 1989. Ultra-natonalists on PF? Haven't seen one yet. A hardy brainwashing was already done by the communists and it continues today by other leftist scum by first calling Polish patriots ultra-nationalists.

Lodz_The_BoatThreads: 58 Posts: 2,314 Joined: Sep 7, 08	Aug 21, 09, 09:18 / #
1jola: history books Sometimes not entirely truth.

1jolaThreads: 33 Posts: 2,737 Joined: Sep 23, 08	Aug 21, 09, 09:28 / #
At least you can fact check a book. I think this is obvious though. Harry, Sztynort Palace is privately owned since 98. Probably sold for peanuts to Kwaśniewski's SLD buddies.

HarryThreads: 62 Posts: 8,508 Joined: May 2, 07 [Suspended]	Aug 21, 09, 11:46 / #
PlasticPole: Tell me what the facts are? Do you even know them? Most likely not judging by how you post. The fact is that the death camps were built in Poland because that is where most of the people they wanted to kill were. I know where they are because I've actually been to all of them. 1jola: At least you can fact check a book. I think this is obvious though. Yes, but books can often be wrong too. Take A Question of Honor, supposedly the definitive history of the Kosciuszko Squadron but still contains the lie "June 8 – The British government bars Polish forces under British command from marching in the Victory Parade out of fear of offending Stalin." 1jola: Harry, Sztynort Palace is privately owned since 98. Probably sold for peanuts to Kwaśniewski's SLD buddies. Yes it was, to the company which owns the marina that you probably used. With hindsight they probably should have half sold it to Germans, as was done with the Wolf's Lair.

niejestemcapitaThreads: 3 Posts: 666 Joined: Jan 3, 09	Aug 21, 09, 11:56 / #
1jola: Your father's stories are hardly a good source, history books are, that is a ridiculous statement

TrevekThreads: 33 Posts: 2,155 Joined: May 21, 08	Edited by: Trevek Aug 21, 09, 12:10 / #
PlasticPole: There weren't as many in other places. Dachau was the first camp and it was opened in the mid-1930's. many Poles were later sent there. There were more camps in Germany than anywhere else. There were more extermination camps in Poland. I think the building of concentration camps in Poland was less of a case of preventing resistance (by setting an example) as holding those who might aid it. That said, people were released from camps occasionally (at least in Germany), even Jews (Bruno Bettelheim being one). Probably the reason the extermination camps were mainly in Poland was both because it was easy to transport people from all over Europe (especially the east) and the german people were rther sensitive to exterminations. There had been an official campaign of killing disabled and mentally ill people already and it had provoked an outcry in Germany. The T4 project actually saw the use of mass gassings, starvation and lethal injection before they were used on inmates of Auschwitz etc. Special centres had ben set up to murder disabled children and adults of German families. The project had even looked at whether to 'dispose of' injured German troops. The German church and public protested and the project was eased down.

CrowThreads: 367 Posts: 7,316 Joined: Feb 14, 07 [Suspended]	Edited by: Crow Aug 21, 09, 13:09 / #
POLES ARE HEROES AND JEW-SAVERS it doesn`t mean that Poles needs to folow Jews in alliance with Arab mujaheedines that invading Balkan and Racowie`s lands. No, it doesn`t mean that, for sure

TrevekThreads: 33 Posts: 2,155 Joined: May 21, 08	Edited by: Trevek Aug 21, 09, 13:48 / #
vetala: Personal stories tend to be subjective so do some history books. David Irving, anyone? A combination of the two is probably a safer bet. Crow: no, not of course Glad to hear it!

CrowThreads: 367 Posts: 7,316 Joined: Feb 14, 07 [Suspended]	Aug 21, 09, 13:52 / #
Trevek: Glad to hear it! oh, don`t worry man. NATO-EU-Muslim-Jewish bomb fall relatively close to me but, i`m fine

HarryThreads: 62 Posts: 8,508 Joined: May 2, 07 [Suspended]	Aug 21, 09, 13:59 / #
Crow: NATO-EU-Muslim-Jewish bomb fall relatively close to me but, i`m fine Pity that your boys are too frightened to act again in the way they did in the 80s and 90s, otherwise we could tell the Islamic-Jewish-EU-NATO-UN-German-British-American-Polish-French bomber crew to aim better next time.

IronsideThreads: 59 Posts: 6,778 Joined: Feb 26, 09	Aug 21, 09, 14:09 / #
Trevek: Wasn't Madelaine Albright from Serbia? No, she was from Czechoslovakia! Wasn't she Jewish?

Lodz_The_BoatThreads: 58 Posts: 2,314 Joined: Sep 7, 08	Aug 21, 09, 13:25 / #
Crow: Crow Waiting... :)

HarryThreads: 62 Posts: 8,508 Joined: May 2, 07 [Suspended]	Aug 21, 09, 13:31 / #
Crow: Jews in alliance with Arab mujaheedines that invading Balkan and Racowie`s lands. A Jewish-Arab alliance? That is bizarre even by your genocidal standards.

vetalaThreads: - Posts: 512 Joined: Jul 10, 09	Aug 21, 09, 13:46 / #
niejestemcapita: that is a ridiculous statement Not really. Personal stories tend to be subjective.

HarryThreads: 62 Posts: 8,508 Joined: May 2, 07 [Suspended]	Aug 21, 09, 13:52 / #
Trevek: perhaps we should tell him to "push, amigo" (it sounds similar) No, let's just tell him that Kosova is now an independent state recognised by the vast majority of the civilised world and that no longer will his brave Serbian heroes be allowed to rape and murder their way arround neighbouring countries. The world has now learned that when Serbs are faced with force nearly equal to their own, they turn and run like rabbits; but if they are not faced with force nearly equal to their own they behave in a way not seen since the Nazis darkened Europe.

CrowThreads: 367 Posts: 7,316 Joined: Feb 14, 07 [Suspended]	Edited by: Crow Aug 21, 09, 14:00 / #
Harry: No, let's just tell him that Kosova is now an independent state recognised by the vast majority of the civilised world and that no longer will his brave Serbian heroes be allowed to rape and murder their way arround neighbouring countries. The world has now learned that when Serbs are faced with force nearly equal to their own, they turn and run like rabbits; but if they are not faced with force nearly equal to their own they behave in a way not seen since the Nazis darkened Europe. you spread anti-Serbian propaganda, dirty Harry? attempts of so called west to demonize Serbs in media are just futile

TrevekThreads: 33 Posts: 2,155 Joined: May 21, 08	Aug 21, 09, 14:02 / #
Wasn't Madelaine Albright from Serbia?

CrowThreads: 367 Posts: 7,316 Joined: Feb 14, 07 [Suspended]	Aug 21, 09, 14:07 / #
Harry: Pity that your boys are too frightened to act again in the way they did in the 80s and 90s, otherwise we could tell the Islamic-Jewish-EU-NATO-UN-German-British-American-Polish-French bomber crew to aim better next time. fascinating Harry. Harry, listen. Level of your stupidity is fascinating

aphrodisiacThreads: 22 Posts: 3,998 Joined: Apr 15, 09	Aug 21, 09, 14:09 / #
Crow: Level of your stupidity is fascinating YOU say that? ha,ha.......

CrowThreads: 367 Posts: 7,316 Joined: Feb 14, 07 [Suspended]	Edited by: Crow Aug 21, 09, 14:16 / #
Trevek: Wasn't Madelaine Albright from Serbia? no, she was born in Czech republik. but, her father was diplomat and Madelaine spent WWII in Serbia. So, Serbs saved little Jewish girl Madelaine Albright. Few decades later, Madelaine Albright was first to demand destruction of Serbs by NATO. aphrodisiac: YOU say that? ha,ha....... hahha hahah hahahah hahah

HarryThreads: 62 Posts: 8,508 Joined: May 2, 07 [Suspended]	Edited by: Harry Aug 21, 09, 14:19 / #
Crow: Level of your stupidity is fascinating Says the man who believes there is a Jewish-Arab plot against his country! Crow: but, her father was diplomat and Madelaine spent WWII in Serbia. So, Serbs saved little Jewish girl Madelaine Albright. You are delusional. "Albright spent the War years in England, while her father worked for Benes’ Czechoslovak government-in-exile. They first lived on Kensington Park Road in Notting Hill, London, where they endured the worst of the Blitz, but later moved to Beaconsfield, then Walton-on-Thames, on the outer skirts of London. While in England, a young Albright appeared as a refugee child in a film designed to promote sympathy for all War refugees in London." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Madeleine_Albright#cite_note-1

CrowThreads: 367 Posts: 7,316 Joined: Feb 14, 07 [Suspended]	Aug 21, 09, 14:23 / #
Harry: Says the man who believes there is a Jewish-Arab plot against his country! nothing to believe in. I speak about facts when comes the moment to deal with Slavs, Jews and Arabs nicely understand each others

1jolaThreads: 33 Posts: 2,737 Joined: Sep 23, 08	Aug 21, 09, 14:37 / #
Harry: Yes it was, to the company which owns the marina that you probably used. With hindsight they probably should have half sold it to Germans, as was done with the Wolf's Lair. That would have accomplished nothing. In Wolfschanze, the owners have done nothing to make the site understandable to visitors not already familiar with the subject but they did make a restaurant in the old SS baracks.. niejestemcapita: 1jola: Your father's stories are hardly a good source, history books are, that is a ridiculous statement Why? Don't worry Crow, some of us don't believe Fox and CNN propaganda. Polish fans.

PlasticPoleThreads: 10 Posts: 5,429 Joined: May 28, 09	Aug 21, 09, 14:46 / #
Harry: The fact is that the death camps were built in Poland because that is where most of the people they wanted to kill were. I know where they are because I've actually been to all of them. Harry just because you have this morbid fascination with death camps doesn't make you an expert on them. Of course most of the people they wanted to kill were in Poland. It doesn't take a visit to a death camp to figure that out. Also, coincidentally, most of the resistance was in Poland too, which could explain why the Nazis were so brutal there. Harry, why not admit Poland isn't the Nazi collaborators you claim, rather a land of resisters going against all odds and paying a heavy price?

HarryThreads: 62 Posts: 8,508 Joined: May 2, 07 [Suspended]	Edited by: Harry Aug 21, 09, 14:46 / #
1jola: In Wolfschanze, the owners have done nothing to make the site understandable to visitors not already familiar with the subject but they did make a restaurant in the old SS baracks. The absence of information boards is part of the attraction of the place. I usually get a guide when I go there anyway (it works out at about ten zlots per person if there's a car full of you). I'd need to check with my contact up there but I'm pretty sure that the restaurant predates the purchase of the site by the current owners. The restaurant was certainly there in '95 (I remember having a crackingly good meal in it) and the guide told us with great outrage about a plan he'd heard to sell the site to a company half-owned by Germans. PlasticPole: Harry, why not admit Poland isn't the Nazi collaborators you claim, rather a land of resisters going against all odds and paying a heavy price? You will note that I have never claimed that Poland was nation of Nazi collaborators. I have always said that some Poles actively opposed the Nazis and some Poles actively supported them. Those are simple historical facts. PlasticPole: Harry just because you have this morbid fascination with death camps doesn't make you an expert on them. Although the fact that I've been to them all and done a fairly large amount of reading about them all means I know just a touch more about them than you do. 1jola: Polish fans. Oh, bless! They've even managed to spell it all properly too! Their probation officers must be so proud.

PlasticPoleThreads: 10 Posts: 5,429 Joined: May 28, 09	Edited by: PlasticPole Aug 21, 09, 14:52 / #
Trevek: The T4 project actually saw the use of mass gassings, starvation and lethal injection before they were used on inmates of Auschwitz etc. Special centres had ben set up to murder disabled children and adults of German families. The project had even looked at whether to 'dispose of' injured German troops. The German church and public protested and the project was eased down. They were listened to because they were German and I thought it was the Catholic Church who protested it? The same Church banned by the Nazis. If the same thing would have happened in Poland there would have been mass executions of the protestors. Harry: Although the fact that I've been to them all and done a fairly large amount of reading about them all means I know just a touch more about them than you do. Good. Then you know about the desperate situation in Poland and how the Nazis killed anyone who resisted. Enough said.

HarryThreads: 62 Posts: 8,508 Joined: May 2, 07 [Suspended]	Aug 21, 09, 14:58 / #
PlasticPole: the Catholic Church who protested it? The same Church banned by the Nazis. You really do know bugger all about history, don't you.