WHO WILL REPRESENT THE USA AT WESTERPLATTE?

Piorun:

What our forces in Afghanistan have do do with American no show at the WWII observance at Westerplatte.

Harry:

If they can't be bothered to send a fitting representative to mark the start of one of your wars

Piorun:

I provided solution to this dilemma if you only cared to read past the first sentence.

Polonius3:

How many more Poles have to die in Afghanistan for Washington to send a top-level representative to the 1st September WW2 observance at Westerplatte?
Putin, Merkel and other govt chiefs are coming.

JulietEcho:

Bring our boys back

Polonius3:

No, there are clsoer to 2,000 Poles at present in Afghanistan

Polonius3:

http://blog.rp.pl/magierowski/2009/08/26/ameryko-co-jeszcze-moze my-dla -ciebie-zrobic/

Polonius3:

How many more Poles have to die in Afghanistan for Washington to send a top-level representative to the 1st September WW2 observance at Westerplatte?
Putin, Merkel and other govt chiefs are coming.

Polonius3:

Putin, Merkel and other govt chiefs are coming.

JulietEcho:

LOT is owned by Government, so they should cancel all of its Boeing orders and simply bring business to Airbus.

lesser:

How about quality and price? Till LOT wont be privatized political motivation always prevail.

scrappleton:

..All 600 of them.

szkotja2007:

You know its true !

scrappleton:

What's true is Yankee blindly loves the British Isles and Ireland. Got us into 2 world wars, they could probably do it again. It's corny and pathetic but there ya' go.

Ironside:

lesser:
How about quality and price? Till LOT wont be privatized political motivation always prevail.

What a bull! Who would be do this transaction ?The same politician you bash in every post - think it through, will you ?

scrappleton:

Got us into 2 world wars

lesser:

They will steal something, this is their job but later this company will be less dependent from their meddling. This is step in good direction. As a client you can expect LOT to become more competitive on the market without state protectionism.

lesser:

However how would this state look like if we would follow your logic? Take us back to 1989 when almost all companies are state owned. You coming out with similar statement, I'm sure that all those idealistic communists would be glad to have such ally.

Ironside:

What the fokke wrong with you - its not all right in the first place!

Ironside:

Secondly Polish taxpayers paid for a new Boeing planes - do you think you'll get it back?

Ironside:

There no such thing as "free marked" someone is always controlling it, if not government then bankers or really, really rich (international corporations)!
And said corporations have all the advantages in Poland and are not interested in changes - so your little sale out scheme make no change at all!

time means:

Pearl harbour ring any bells?

And next time please show up on time :-)

lesser:

In Poland there is no free market for sure. Corporations are interested to keep socialist state because it is easy to corrupt. They don't want to be just a subject on free market. Thus this is obvious that they would not control free market as you claim. Otherwise they would be interested to introduce liberalism instead supporting socialism.

lesser:

Transaction is finished and planes belong to this company. The best way of privatization (possibility of corruption highly reduced) would be auction with some minimum price. Even Ukraine managed to do it right!

lesser:

Of course this is wrong but still a sacrifice worth final effect. Better to let them to do it once than witness never-ending parasitism. At least my long term goal is to change the system in opposition to you. You accept the system, so take it with all its pathologies.

Ironside:

They can always corrupt regardless system !

Ironside:

Your long term goal is gather listener to you preaching free market and other theoretical bull.
I know the reality and I can play along or **** them - no mercy, no regrets!
You will scream and talk but in the end you will achive nothing as you are wrong about how the world is moving !

lesser:

If you prefer to let the left to run our life, let them to brainwash your children we will never agree. Unlike you I understand that no ideology have permanent recipe for success. The only way to destroy currently dominant one is to question it even if this would be very long process. I think that somebody who have nothing to offer (like you) should simply shut up and stop discouraging people who actually want to improve status quo.

Polonius3Threads: 1,005 Posts: 4,834 Joined: Apr 11, 08	Aug 27, 09, 14:15 / #
http://blog.rp.pl/magierowski/2009/08/26/ameryko-co-jeszcze-mozemy-dla -ciebie-zrobic/ How many more Poles have to die in Afghanistan for Washington to send a top-level representative to the 1st September WW2 observance at Westerplatte? Putin, Merkel and other govt chiefs are coming.

PiorunThreads: - Posts: 741 Joined: Nov 11, 07	Aug 27, 09, 14:37 / #
What our forces in Afghanistan have do do with American no show at the WWII observance at Westerplatte. The solution is simple enough, treat them like you would any of your friends, after a few no shows you simply don't invite them over ever again.

HarryThreads: 62 Posts: 8,508 Joined: May 2, 07 [Suspended]	Aug 27, 09, 14:59 / #
Piorun: What our forces in Afghanistan have do do with American no show at the WWII observance at Westerplatte. If they can't be bothered to send a fitting representative to mark the start of one of your wars, why should you send fitting representatives to die in their wars?

PiorunThreads: - Posts: 741 Joined: Nov 11, 07	Aug 27, 09, 15:12 / #
Harry: If they can't be bothered to send a fitting representative to mark the start of one of your wars This is as much our war as it is theirs, infect this is everyone's war. Using soldiers as a pawns in a political game is childish, besides I provided solution to this dilemma if you only cared to read past the first sentence.

SalomonThreads: 6 Posts: 602 Joined: Apr 7, 09	Edited by: Salomon Aug 27, 09, 15:15 / #
USA is closer and closer culturaly and politicaly to Africa ...

HarryThreads: 62 Posts: 8,508 Joined: May 2, 07 [Suspended]	Aug 27, 09, 15:15 / #
Piorun: I provided solution to this dilemma if you only cared to read past the first sentence. How does not inviting Americans to important events make up for the snub they're giving to Poland?

SalomonThreads: 6 Posts: 602 Joined: Apr 7, 09	Aug 27, 09, 15:26 / #
I am the most interested in results of Putin - Tusk talks and I hope that vetors in Polish foreign policy will change.

jwojcieThreads: 3 Posts: 816 Joined: Jan 3, 09	Aug 27, 09, 16:18 / #
They don't know how to tell us that "The Shield" deal is no longer valid... So they've choosen to avoid us for some time...

SalomonThreads: 6 Posts: 602 Joined: Apr 7, 09	Edited by: Salomon Aug 27, 09, 16:20 / #
American accepeted Russians zone of influence in this part of Europe. Thats the fact. In my opinion Poland should stop support pro american iniciatives and strat talk to Russians.

1jolaThreads: 33 Posts: 2,737 Joined: Sep 23, 08	Aug 27, 09, 18:30 / #
About?

jwojcieThreads: 3 Posts: 816 Joined: Jan 3, 09	Edited by: jwojcie Aug 29, 09, 02:36 / #
Oh, come on, it is even better that way. It shows clearly for those who didn't know where is Poland from USA perspective. There is no significant economic ties, so in the long run there will never be any significant political relationship. Maybe finally we will realize who are our real partners which are, oh surprise, Germany and Russia... Our eternal neighbours... Yeah, they've f*** our ancestors badly couple of times. It is a shame but it is issue for 01.11.[iiii]. Be realistic, it is USA which in the first place undermined NATO, we cannot count on it in the long run...

IronsideThreads: 59 Posts: 6,786 Joined: Feb 26, 09	Aug 29, 09, 14:00 / #
Its seems that Representative of the USA at the ceremony will be gen James Jones ! I want Governor of California ..........Arnold where are you?

JulietEchoThreads: 3 Posts: 129 Joined: Jul 14, 08	Aug 27, 09, 19:16 / #
Polonius3: How many more Poles have to die in Afghanistan for Washington to send a top-level representative to the 1st September WW2 observance at Westerplatte? Putin, Merkel and other govt chiefs are coming. - Bring our boys back. The Afgan war is already lost anyway. LOT is owned by Government, so they should cancel all of its Boeing orders and simply bring business to Airbus. I totally don't understand this one sided love of Polish government towards Americans, does Polish government have to everything from the kneeling position?

scrappletonThreads: - Posts: 1,365 Joined: Apr 28, 09	Aug 27, 09, 19:21 / #
JulietEcho: Bring our boys back ..All 600 of them.

Polonius3Threads: 1,005 Posts: 4,834 Joined: Apr 11, 08	Aug 27, 09, 19:24 / #
No, there are clsoer to 2,000 Poles at present in Afghanistan

scrappletonThreads: - Posts: 1,365 Joined: Apr 28, 09	Aug 27, 09, 19:34 / #
Polonius3: No, there are clsoer to 2,000 Poles at present in Afghanistan Which is like 2 battalions or so. Better to pull them in. You know.. out of harms way... Where they want to be. You don't have the political will, why chance it.

lesserThreads: 7 Posts: 2,014 Joined: Oct 19, 07	Edited by: lesser Aug 29, 09, 01:14 / #
Polonius3: http://blog.rp.pl/magierowski/2009/08/26/ameryko-co-jeszcze-moze my-dla -ciebie-zrobic/ Extremely pathetic article, Magierowski is such a sore loser. Polonius3: How many more Poles have to die in Afghanistan for Washington to send a top-level representative to the 1st September WW2 observance at Westerplatte? Putin, Merkel and other govt chiefs are coming. Polish politicians doesn't respect themselves, why would others respect them? Anyway from perspective of average citizen why should anybody care whether high ranked foreign scamsters show up in Gdańsk? Low ranked representative at least bother to learn what kind of ceremony he plan to attend. Polonius3: Putin, Merkel and other govt chiefs are coming. Polish media so often stand against Putin but now they are soooooo glad that he will arrive. If I would describe this as provicional mentality, I believe this would be a compliment. This is far worse! JulietEcho: LOT is owned by Government, so they should cancel all of its Boeing orders and simply bring business to Airbus. How about quality and price? Till LOT wont be privatized political motivation always prevail.

IronsideThreads: 59 Posts: 6,786 Joined: Feb 26, 09	Aug 29, 09, 01:30 / #
lesser: How about quality and price? Till LOT wont be privatized political motivation always prevail. What a bull! Who would be do this transaction ?The same politician you bash in every post - think it through, will you ? scrappleton: ..All 600 of them. Its like 6000 American soldiers ! Polonius3: How Don't worry they'll send Governor of California !

scrappletonThreads: - Posts: 1,365 Joined: Apr 28, 09	Aug 29, 09, 01:40 / #
szkotja2007: You know its true ! What's true is Yankee blindly loves the British Isles and Ireland. Got us into 2 world wars, they could probably do it again. It's corny and pathetic but there ya' go.

IronsideThreads: 59 Posts: 6,786 Joined: Feb 26, 09	Aug 29, 09, 02:15 / #
scrappleton: What's true is Yankee blindly loves the British Isles and Ireland. Got us into 2 world wars, they could probably do it again. It's corny and pathetic but there ya' go. Thats the reason that the Isles have humid climate its from Yankee affections - overflow of saliva.....its sick

lesserThreads: 7 Posts: 2,014 Joined: Oct 19, 07	Aug 29, 09, 08:43 / #
Ironside: lesser: How about quality and price? Till LOT wont be privatized political motivation always prevail. What a bull! Who would be do this transaction ?The same politician you bash in every post - think it through, will you ? They will steal something, this is their job but later this company will be less dependent from their meddling. This is step in good direction. As a client you can expect LOT to become more competitive on the market without state protectionism. However how would this state look like if we would follow your logic? Take us back to 1989 when almost all companies are state owned. You coming out with similar statement, I'm sure that all those idealistic communists would be glad to have such ally.

time meansThreads: 9 Posts: 2,306 Joined: Apr 21, 08	Aug 29, 09, 11:52 / #
scrappleton: Got us into 2 world wars Pearl harbour ring any bells? And next time please show up on time :-)

IronsideThreads: 59 Posts: 6,786 Joined: Feb 26, 09	Aug 29, 09, 13:21 / #
lesser: They will steal something, this is their job but later this company will be less dependent from their meddling. This is step in good direction. As a client you can expect LOT to become more competitive on the market without state protectionism. They would steal something.? What the fokke wrong with you - its not all right in the first place! Secondly Polish taxpayers paid for a new Boeing planes - do you think you'll get it back? Anyhow taxes in Poland and specialty financial and banking system are the points where the most of rip of taking place. Your simpleton's advice wont help to improve life of average Polish taxpayers. There no such thing as "free marked" someone is always controlling it, if not government then bankers or really, really rich (international corporations)! And said corporations have all the advantages in Poland and are not interested in changes - so your little sale out scheme make no change at all! I wish it was all that easy ! lesser: However how would this state look like if we would follow your logic? Take us back to 1989 when almost all companies are state owned. You coming out with similar statement, I'm sure that all those idealistic communists would be glad to have such ally. I think you go back to the past far too many times ! As being under Soviet occupation had to do with anything ....like economy.

lesserThreads: 7 Posts: 2,014 Joined: Oct 19, 07	Aug 29, 09, 22:52 / #
Ironside: What the fokke wrong with you - its not all right in the first place! Of course this is wrong but still a sacrifice worth final effect. Better to let them to do it once than witness never-ending parasitism. At least my long term goal is to change the system in opposition to you. You accept the system, so take it with all its pathologies. Ironside: Secondly Polish taxpayers paid for a new Boeing planes - do you think you'll get it back? Transaction is finished and planes belong to this company. The best way of privatization (possibility of corruption highly reduced) would be auction with some minimum price. Even Ukraine managed to do it right! Ironside: There no such thing as "free marked" someone is always controlling it, if not government then bankers or really, really rich (international corporations)! And said corporations have all the advantages in Poland and are not interested in changes - so your little sale out scheme make no change at all! In Poland there is no free market for sure. Corporations are interested to keep socialist state because it is easy to corrupt. They don't want to be just a subject on free market. Thus this is obvious that they would not control free market as you claim. Otherwise they would be interested to introduce liberalism instead supporting socialism.

scrappletonThreads: - Posts: 1,365 Joined: Apr 28, 09	Aug 29, 09, 23:09 / #
time means: Pearl harbour ring any bells? And next time please show up on time :-) Ahh? We were on time - to our war.. in the Pacific, where Pear Harbor is. I know I'm a Yank but I don't think it's near Europe. I have another plan.. why not we all pass on "next time". Maybe the UK can play nice with the rest of the EU until I'm dead? I'm not English, Welsh or Scottish and don't really want to die for the Sceptered Isle. I don't think Canucks or Aussies do either.

IronsideThreads: 59 Posts: 6,786 Joined: Feb 26, 09	Aug 29, 09, 23:27 / #
lesser: In Poland there is no free market for sure. Corporations are interested to keep socialist state because it is easy to corrupt. They don't want to be just a subject on free market. Thus this is obvious that they would not control free market as you claim. Otherwise they would be interested to introduce liberalism instead supporting socialism. they don't care which as long as there is safe profit for them and safe means they're in control. They can always corrupt regardless system ! And state is not socialist but banana republic&socialist mix lesser: Transaction is finished and planes belong to this company. The best way of privatization (possibility of corruption highly reduced) would be auction with some minimum price. Even Ukraine managed to do it right! really ? In my opinion its wishful thinking ! lesser: Of course this is wrong but still a sacrifice worth final effect. Better to let them to do it once than witness never-ending parasitism. At least my long term goal is to change the system in opposition to you. You accept the system, so take it with all its pathologies. Your long term goal is gather listener to you preaching free market and other theoretical bull. I know the reality and I can play along or **** them - no mercy, no regrets! You will scream and talk but in the end you will achive nothing as you are wrong about how the world is moving !

lesserThreads: 7 Posts: 2,014 Joined: Oct 19, 07	Aug 29, 09, 23:50 / #
Ironside: They can always corrupt regardless system ! If bureaucrats are not allowed to produce regulations then there is no reason to pay them. Ironside: Your long term goal is gather listener to you preaching free market and other theoretical bull. I know the reality and I can play along or **** them - no mercy, no regrets! You will scream and talk but in the end you will achive nothing as you are wrong about how the world is moving ! If you prefer to let the left to run our life, let them to brainwash your children we will never agree. Unlike you I understand that no ideology have permanent recipe for success. The only way to destroy currently dominant one is to question it even if this would be very long process. I think that somebody who have nothing to offer (like you) should simply shut up and stop discouraging people who actually want to improve status quo.

IronsideThreads: 59 Posts: 6,786 Joined: Feb 26, 09	Aug 29, 09, 23:59 / #
lesser: If you prefer to let the left to run our life, let them to brainwash your children we will never agree. Unlike you I understand that no ideology have permanent recipe for success. The only way to destroy currently dominant one is to question it even if this would be very long process. I think that somebody who have nothing to offer (like you) should simply shut up and stop discouraging people who actually want to improve status quo. What ideology ? You don't even know what you are talking about! I don't discourage you, carry on ....talking :) And as long as I'm around nobody will brainwash my children!