MareGaea
I don't read all threads, but I have been reading PF for several years and posting for a year and have seen no depraved idiots here.
You might not notice that in the international press it is chic to slam Poles at any oportune moment. You, being a reader of that press, sometimes repeat those lies. It is more likely that you will find depraved idiots writing for New York Times.
Here is an excerpt of Professor Lipstadt's trip to Auschwitz, just to give you an idea what annoys us:
It is ironic that this should happen to me because whenever I hear Jews say: “The Poles were worse than the Germans,” I point out that that is a pretty a-historical [dumb] statement given that the Germans planned and executed the worst murder of Jews in history. German architects, engineers, doctors, organizers, and all sorts of other people made this happen. Unlike Lithuanians, Ukrainians, Estonians, all of whom formed units of the German auxiliary, Poles were oppressed by the Germans. Recently someone said to me, “But Poles administered the camps.” There were certainly Poles who, as prisoners, assisted the Germans [see QBVII by Leon Uris or, for a non-fictional account of the same story, Auschwitz in the Courtroom] but they were not responsible for the Holocaust. There were Poles who turned Jews in to Nazis. And there were Poles who hid Jews. In fact, at Yad Vashem there are more Polish righteous gentiles honored than any other nation. [Of course, this, in part, is because there were more Jews being persecuted in Poland than in any place else.]
Many Jews get quite annoyed at me for saying this. I tend to think their response is a reflection of the fact that the death camps are in, what is currently now, Poland. [Auschwitz was in the Greater Reich. From the German perspective it was in Germany. Mauthausen was also in the Reich.] They were put there, not as many Jews have been taught, because the Poles would not mind the Jews being killed but because most of the intended victims were in the vicinity of the camps. And of course, many Jews remember the attitudes of Poles in Lanzmann’s Shoah in which a number of Poles, after expressing horror at what was done to the Jews, slip into blaming the Jews for their own fate but contending that they were rich, killers of Jesus, and Jewish women were beautiful.
So here I was, a person who is seen by many Jews as “overly” sympathetic to the Poles, facing the contrary point of view. I decided to say nothing and instead to go send some emails.
http://lipstadt.blogspot.com/search/label/Auschwitz%3A%20My%20visit%20 1-05
Compare some of those opinions with this one posted here recently by someone whose writing style you will recognize:
2) the Nazis knew that they could do this in Eastern Europe rightaway and not in Western Europe, because anti-semitism wasn't as deeply rooted in the West as it was in the East. They knew if they would start shooting and killing Jews the way they did in PL or in RU, the Westerners would never accept that, hence cause a lot of unrest they didn't need.
This poster suggests that Poles would easily accept the shooting of Jews because of their anti-Semitism. After that, he got a lesson in Judaism.
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