Ross kemp on Polish Gangs/Nazis - Untermenschen Nazis..??

sjam:

Fascists (like the Nazis) are anti-intellectual and anti-semite so this is perfect fit for those like Sokrates.
I believe the 'dry facts' record Nazi concentration camps were full of Polish intellectuals and Polish Jews.

MareGaea:

Credibility of what? For pointing out that Poles were not as brandclean as they claim to be?

IronsideThreads: 59 Posts: 6,778 Joined: Feb 26, 09	Oct 19, 09, 18:33 / #
MareGaea: I'm not. Also for the simple reason that you have them everywhere, this vermin. MareGaea: one should put those fascists to sleep indeed So you think about extermination ? I-S (coffee)

MareGaeaThreads: 45 Posts: 5,527 Joined: Feb 6, 08	Edited by: MareGaea Oct 19, 09, 18:44 / #
Ironside They think of putting other ppl to sleep and then I cannot think of putting them to sleep? Because I'm supposed to be tolerant? Yes I am tolerant, however, patience with intolerant idiots is coming to an end at one point and I know I would be the same like them, but heck, why should I tolerate that those intolerant b*stards insult me and beat up ppl who think like me all the time and accept it as it's all part of "freedom of speech"? Sorry, but I really think it's time that tolerant ppl should fight fire with fire for once and beat the intolerants with their own methods. For once it should be pssbl. After all: all that evil needs to rise is for good men to do nothing. They flourish only because we don't call it to a halt. It's time this happens. We don't have to kill them, but give them the beating of a lifetime, to get them on the normal track again. Because the behaviour they're exposing is depraved, dangerous and retarded. >^..^< M-G (had to get that off his chest)

vetalaThreads: - Posts: 512 Joined: Jul 10, 09	Edited by: vetala Oct 19, 09, 18:50 / #
MareGaea I reply to posts which offend me personally. I don't blame you for doing the same. And it's funny how you claim that I'M the one who isn't objective and the same time spit out offensive crap along the lines of: MareGaea: you Poles went merrily on killing Jews First find a quote of me saying that "You Jews went merrily on killing polish patriots for the Soviets" and only THEN we can argue over which one of us is less objective. Also keep in mind that my comment back then was a very emotional response and something of a challenge to you. Even when writing it I didn't say that 'this is the truth and nothing but!' I specifically said: vetala: If that is how you want to speak then I'll speak to you in your own words And the funny thing is that I don't even think the way I wrote. After all I myself would love to go back in time and defend my homeland, whereas I would never wish to be a Jew during Holocaust. But you said that Poles merrily murdered Jews and any Pole who says that 'Poles suffered more' should go to jail - an insult and a challenge in one, I couldn't just leave it without a rebuttal. Would you? Seeing as you can't stop yourself from getting into arguments with maniacs like joe pilsudski, I doubt you wouldn't. >^..^< Vetala (only started paying attention to Jewishness since visiting here and found that her Polishness is apparently something to be ashamed of - at least for Jews)

MareGaeaThreads: 45 Posts: 5,527 Joined: Feb 6, 08	Oct 19, 09, 18:55 / #
vetala I will respond to this later. I have to hurry now to do some important stuff. I just post this here to let you know that I've read it. >^..^< M-G (hurry)

SokratesThreads: 19 Posts: 4,464 Joined: Jan 19, 09 [Suspended]	Oct 19, 09, 19:08 / #
sjam: You are right Polish fascists and Nazis like you certainly need putting down—as do all diseased animals—it is the humanitarian in me :-)) And since according to you every Pole is a diseased animal we all need to be put down?:)

sjamThreads: 5 Posts: 1,016 Joined: Jan 13, 09	Edited by: sjam Oct 19, 09, 19:35 / #
Sokrates: And since according to you every Pole is a diseased animal we all need to be put down?:) Let me be clear—only Polish Fascists and Nazis like you! Luckily you and your ilk are the minority in Poland. Nazi-fascists like you are not true Poles. You are traitors to the honour and memory of those millions of Polish victims of the Nazi-fascists during WII. I am sure these millions of Polish 'untermenschen' would be terribly ashamed of your retarded fascist kind in today's Poland, and rightly so. Still waiting for your link to where I declared Poles ran concentration camps in Poland during WWII? Are you having trouble finding such a statement from me, could it be that it doesn't exist?

Grzegorz_Threads: 81 Posts: 6,213 Joined: Nov 16, 06	Oct 19, 09, 21:09 / #
sjam: Fascists (like the Nazis) are anti-intellectual and anti-semite so this is perfect fit for those like Sokrates. I believe the 'dry facts' record Nazi concentration camps were full of Polish intellectuals and Polish Jews. What does fascism has to do with Jews or anti-intellectualism... ? MareGaea: Credibility of what? For pointing out that Poles were not as brandclean as they claim to be? Were Dutch or Jews brandclean ?

jonniThreads: 26 Posts: 4,181 Joined: Nov 27, 07	Oct 19, 09, 21:27 / #
Grzegorz_: What does fascism has to do with Jews or anti-intellectualism... ? fascism has historivcally shown itself to be both murderously anti-semitic and anti-intelectual. That pondlife Griffin in the UK has said openly that the majority of his ridiculous "party's" members are poorly educated, and fascists (real ones, not the toytown kind in the bnp) today, as we can see from some of the more deranged people who post here, seem to have an obsession with Jewish people. For no reason except their own inadequacy.

IronsideThreads: 59 Posts: 6,778 Joined: Feb 26, 09	Oct 20, 09, 00:14 / #
jonni: For no reason except their own inadequacy. oh pleaseeee....... MareGaea: We don't have to kill them, but give them the beating of a lifetime, whats the difference then between being beaten because of love, tolerance and being beaten because of hate and fear? Grzegorz_: What does fascism has to do with Jews or anti-intellectualism I think correct question should be - what anti-antisemitism and anti-intellectualism has to do with fascism? And being on the subject, Anti-antisemitism and ant-intellectualism is not indication of one being fascist and such automatic assumption on your part jonni: fascism is clearly indication of practical application of ant-intellectualism if I have ever seen one! I-S ( fed up with shallow water and pseudo-intellectualism, time for apple juice)

SzwedwPolsceThreads: 13 Posts: 1,915 Joined: Feb 21, 09	Edited by: SzwedwPolsce Oct 20, 09, 00:55 / #
There are persons with IQ < 90, that are easily manipulated, in all countries. They can't understand what's logic and what's not. So it's impossible to discuss anything with them. Low intelligence, poorly educated, no one wants to employ them, and they get filled with hate and loss of identity. So they get attracted to extreme ideologies like these. You can find them in Poland, Germany, England, Italy, Brazil and everywhere else. 90% of the population hates this kind of people. But such people have always existed and will do so also in the future.

MareGaeaThreads: 45 Posts: 5,527 Joined: Feb 6, 08	Edited by: MareGaea Oct 20, 09, 01:01 / #
Grzegorz_: Were Dutch or Jews brandclean ? No, but I don't remember that that post was directed at you, Greg. Ironside: whats the difference then between being beaten because of love, tolerance and being beaten because of hate and fear? I was just trying to say that it should be for once the other way round (just once should be enough) and that the tolerant ppl bash in on the intolerant. Would be nice for a change. Edit: I see you're training and preparing to be adopted by me? :) Vetala, I couldn't get back at you earlier, been unexpectedly busy tonight. In short, vetala, if you hadn't disabled your private msgs, I would have sent at the day you had your emotional outburst a msg saying that you shouldn't take everything so serious. While I appreciate your involvement (and to be honest, I do think you're one of the smarter posters here - must be your Jewish half:) ) and I never meant to intentionally offend anybody, I have to admit that you're just had the bad luck to be caught up between an avalanche of weirdos who claim offending stuff. You were a so-called innocent bystander. So if I offended you in any way, I apologize, as I never meant to hurt anybody. Anybody, that is, except a few idiots. But I think those idiots will know I mean them, without mentioning their names :) >^..^< M-G (vtela seems a sensitive creature, so a Mea Culpa is granted)

jonniThreads: 26 Posts: 4,181 Joined: Nov 27, 07	Oct 20, 09, 01:05 / #
Ironside: jonni: For no reason except their own inadequacy. oh pleaseeee....... Check out Theodore Adorno's study of the 'fascist personality'. He found that people holding extreme right wing and racist political opinions harboured deep feelings of inadequacy, powerlessness and inferiority. It makes good reading.

SzwedwPolsceThreads: 13 Posts: 1,915 Joined: Feb 21, 09	Edited by: SzwedwPolsce Oct 20, 09, 02:02 / #
jonni: He found that people holding extreme right wing and racist political opinions harboured deep feelings of inadequacy, powerlessness and inferiority. This has been known in psychological research for a very long time.

sjamThreads: 5 Posts: 1,016 Joined: Jan 13, 09	Oct 20, 09, 11:13 / #
Ironside: whats the difference then between being beaten because of love, tolerance and being beaten because of hate and fear? Beaten for love and tolerance???? A curious analogy to use? These are the words one expects to hear from an abuser or someone who has been abused in their life??

vetalaThreads: - Posts: 512 Joined: Jul 10, 09	Oct 20, 09, 13:43 / #
MareGaea Ah, well, I overreacted, I admit. I think I will better try to stay away from from heated arguments for a while now...