70th Anniversary of start of WWII

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MatyjaszThreads: 2 Posts: 1,786 Joined: Jul 20, 06	Jan 4, 09, 16:52 / #
fredex: What does this have to do with the Germans ? Poland should run Poland . Some say they started it, but than again surely they are Germano-russianophobs. ;)

fredexThreads: 2 Posts: 40 Joined: Nov 26, 08	Jan 4, 09, 16:58 / #
I believe the U.S. started this Idea , for some political game and Poland is playing along . Will it happen I do not think so , Obama does not think there is much purpose in it ! So chances are you will not see it , just games !

Eagle20Threads: 33 Posts: 129 Joined: Dec 12, 07	Edited by: Eagle20 Jan 5, 09, 13:18 / #
70th Anniversary of start of WWII Good time to start thinking about those Poles who gave their lives fighting in 1939.

noimmigration	Jan 5, 09, 13:25 / #
Eagle20: Good time to start thinking about those Poles who gave their lives fighting in 1939. Getting shot in the back while running away from germans is hardly giving your life.

noimmigration1Threads: - Posts: 6 Joined: Jan 5, 09	Jan 5, 09, 13:27 / #
Eagle20: 70th Anniversary of start of WWII Good time to start thinking about those Poles who gave their lives fighting in 1939. The Polish soldiers were very brave. You are right.

Grzegorz_Threads: 80 Posts: 6,102 Joined: Nov 16, 06	Edited by: Grzegorz_ Jan 5, 09, 13:42 / #

noimmigration1Threads: - Posts: 6 Joined: Jan 5, 09	Jan 5, 09, 13:50 / #
noimmigration: Never been used and only dropped once, eh gregorz? A moving and emotive picture gregorz. Thankyou for posting it.

PolskaManThreads: 3 Posts: 177 Joined: Jan 3, 09	Jan 5, 09, 14:26 / #
Do the germans do anything on september 1st?

Bratwurst BoyThreads: 11 Posts: 14,563 Joined: Apr 2, 07	Edited by: Bratwurst Boy Jan 5, 09, 14:34 / #
Cut the crap noimmi! PolskaMan: Do the germans do anything on september 1st? In Berlin the first day of September was also the first day of school after the great summer holidays...all kids dreaded it! :(

noimmigration1Threads: - Posts: 6 Joined: Jan 5, 09	Jan 5, 09, 14:34 / #
PolskaMan: Do the germans do anything on september 1st? I am not sure but I hope so. We should all remember all the victims of war. You can win a war as much as you can win an earthquake.

HatefulBunch397Threads: - Posts: 1,018 Joined: Nov 5, 08	Jan 5, 09, 14:53 / #
We should all think of the generations and hope for peace around the world.

Jan 13, 09, 05:21 / #

Eagle20:

Can anyone tell me if anything has been or is being planned for the 70th Anniversary of start of WWII (2009) in Poland ?

Don't know what is happening in Poland but a major new Polish Forces War Memorial is being designed and built at the National Memorial Arboretum, Staffordshire, England is to be unveiled at a commemoration ceremony in September 2009. This is a non-governmental initiative by the families of UK Polish veterans and the memorial pays tribute to Polish land forces, Airforce, Navy and Underground Resistance forces—it also recognises those Polish forces that fought alongside the Red Army in the final victory over Nazism in Berlin 1945.

Project website is at (www) PolishForcesMemorial.com

Eagle20Threads: 33 Posts: 129 Joined: Dec 12, 07	Jul 5, 09, 19:10 / #
Westerplatte wróci do stanu z 1 września 1939 Westerplatte will return to the state of September 1, 1939 http://www.trojmiasto.pl/wiadomosci/news.php?id_news=33128

sjamThreads: 5 Posts: 1,016 Joined: Jan 13, 09	Edited by: sjam Jul 8, 09, 08:41 / #
sjam: Polish Forces War Memorial is being designed and built at the National Memorial Arboretum, Yesterday 120 tonnes of engraved granite plaques and statue plinth for the Polish Forces War Memorial project was delivered on-site ready to receive the memorial statue which is on its way from Poznan and should arrive in UK early next week. The Polish MoD are sending over representatives from all the armed forces who will be joined by opposite numbers from British MoD to make up the honour guard. Representatives of the Britsh government have been invited :-)

sjamThreads: 5 Posts: 1,016 Joined: Jan 13, 09	Jul 9, 09, 16:56 / #
Finished bronze Polish Forces War Memorial statue just before shipping to UK from Poznan.

sjamThreads: 5 Posts: 1,016 Joined: Jan 13, 09	Edited by: sjam Aug 6, 09, 10:37 / #
It is finally complete ;-)) The Polish Forces War Memorial 1939-45 installation at the National Memorial Arboretum. The Polish memorial is due to be officially inaugurated on Sept. 19th. There will at least 3,000 guests from Britain and Poland including WWII veterans from all the Polish Armed Forces and the A.K. as well as serving soldiers from the national armed services who will form the honour guard for the ceremonies and fly-by of Spitfire and Lancaster bomber from the Battle of Britain flight.

HarryThreads: 59 Posts: 7,994 Joined: May 2, 07	Aug 6, 09, 10:41 / #
sjam: It is finally finished ;-)) Looks good too. Wish I could be at the ceremony on Sept 19.

sjamThreads: 5 Posts: 1,016 Joined: Jan 13, 09	Edited by: sjam Sep 20, 09, 19:39 / #
We made the National news ;-))

Eagle20Threads: 33 Posts: 129 Joined: Dec 12, 07	Edited by: Eagle20 Sep 20, 09, 22:00 / #
Thousands of Poles fled their homeland, many never to return, when their country was invaded by the Germans and the Russians during World War II. The Polish Armed Forces Memorial being unveiled later aims to commemorate their heroism. ............................................. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/8263908.stm

SeanusThreads: 22 Posts: 30,160 Joined: Dec 25, 07	Edited by: Seanus Sep 20, 09, 22:46 / #
Is this a joke? Fleeing is heroism? Please, some respect...

plk123Threads: 30 Posts: 6,410 Joined: Aug 29, 07	Sep 20, 09, 22:52 / #
Seanus: Fleeing is heroism? way better then being 2m down.

SeanusThreads: 22 Posts: 30,160 Joined: Dec 25, 07	Sep 20, 09, 22:53 / #
I don't deny that, plk123. That wasn't my point. It doesn't make you a hero though, just practical and sensible.

Ozi DanThreads: 21 Posts: 518 Joined: Nov 22, 07	Sep 21, 09, 08:15 / #
Seanus: That wasn't my point. It doesn't make you a hero though, just practical and sensible. I suspect the allegory to heroism was that in fleeing (and thereby ending up in the armed forces of HMG), many Poles 'heroically' fought for a cause that ended in a return of nil for many of them. With hindsight, the practicality and sense of it is debatable, but the heroism of the motive and intent less so. Seanus: Please, some respect... To whom?

sjamThreads: 5 Posts: 1,016 Joined: Jan 13, 09	Sep 21, 09, 10:47 / #
Short clip from my mobile of the Spitfire and Hurricane fly-by ;-) img30.imageshack.us/img30/9849/video0003.mp4

sjamThreads: 5 Posts: 1,016 Joined: Jan 13, 09	Edited by: sjam Sep 24, 09, 16:26 / #
A souviner book was produced for the Polish Armed Forces Memorial (which was co-edited by yours truly) and published by the Polish Underground Movement (1939-45) Study Trust on 1 September 2009 and is now available from Amazon. Proceeds of the book sale are going to help fund the annual maintance of the Memorial site —not to make the editors richer than we are already or to my personal anti-Polish Benevolent Fund ;-) First to Fight: Poland's Contribution to the Allied Victory in WWII (Paperback) by Marek Stella-Sawicki (Editor), Jarek Garlinski (Editor), Stefan Mucha (Editor) Publisher: Polish Underground Movement (1939-45) Study Trust (1 Sep 2009) ISBN-10: 0955782449 ISBN-13: 978-0955782442 296 pages includes many photo illustrations. Retail Price UK£19.95

Mr GrunwaldThreads: 34 Posts: 2,354 Joined: Dec 16, 08	Sep 24, 09, 16:33 / #
Seanus: Is this a joke? Fleeing is heroism? Please, some respect... To flee so that you will just live the next day is not honorable. To flee so that you can fight again! Isn't that honorable? Ofc more honorable would be fighting until a panzer makes you flat but that's also what is called as stupidity...