Walesa blames Soviet system for 1970 deaths

Walesa blames Soviet system for 1970 deaths

Poland's last communist leader, Gen. Wojciech Jaruzelski, left, Gen. Tadeusz Tuczapski, middle, and former leading communist Stanislaw Kociolek, right, listen during their trial in the 1970 deaths of Gdansk shipyard workers in Warsaw, Poland, Wednesday, July 30, 2008. According to official numbers, 44 people died and more than 1,000 were injured when authorities quashed the 1970 strikes in Gdansk, Gdynia, Szczecin and Elblag. Testifying at the trial of Poland's last Communist leader, Former Polish President Lech Walesa suggested Wednesday that the Soviet system was responsible for the killing of protesting shipyard workers in 1970, rather than individuals.

celinskiThreads: 83 Posts: 2,800 Joined: Nov 14, 07	Jul 31, 08, 10:58 / #
Walesa seems wishie washie and makes me wonder what side he represents? Walesa blames Soviet system for 1970 deaths Poland's last communist leader, Gen. Wojciech Jaruzelski, left, Gen. Tadeusz Tuczapski, middle, and former leading communist Stanislaw Kociolek, right, listen during their trial in the 1970 deaths of Gdansk shipyard workers in Warsaw, Poland, Wednesday, July 30, 2008. According to official numbers, 44 people died and more than 1,000 were injured when authorities quashed the 1970 strikes in Gdansk, Gdynia, Szczecin and Elblag. Testifying at the trial of Poland's last Communist leader, Former Polish President Lech Walesa suggested Wednesday that the Soviet system was responsible for the killing of protesting shipyard workers in 1970, rather than individuals. kansascity.com/451/story/727002.html

lesserThreads: 7 Posts: 2,014 Joined: Oct 19, 07	Edited by: lesser Jul 31, 08, 11:43 / #
Walesa as usual confirms his stupidity. Behind of every each crime stand certain individuals responsible. This case is not any different. Clearly Walesa for some reason have a sympathy to those people, it cannot be explained otherwise. The task of the court is to punish those responsible. If Walesa is a witness then he should speak about certain facts from the past. While he form idiotic personal opinions.

SeanBMThreads: 41 Posts: 8,726 Joined: Mar 10, 08	Edited by: SeanBM Feb 5, 09, 13:36 / #
it is 20 years since the start of the round table discussions. Wałęsa, King Arthur and the Commies. Monty Python- Knights Of The Round Table.

HarryThreads: 62 Posts: 8,508 Joined: May 2, 07 [Suspended]	Feb 5, 09, 14:09 / #
celinski: Walesa seems wishie washie and makes me wonder what side he represents? Gee, I wonder....

SeanusThreads: 22 Posts: 30,158 Joined: Dec 25, 07	Feb 5, 09, 14:12 / #
Wałęsa has cleared his name many times. Who here lived in the height of communistic Poland?? Who really knows the pressure he was under?? If I were him, I'd've blamed the Soviet system too.

HarryThreads: 62 Posts: 8,508 Joined: May 2, 07 [Suspended]	Feb 5, 09, 14:50 / #
Seanus: If I were him, I'd've blamed the Soviet system too. You see that is what makes some Poles (and a lot of Plastic Poles) wonder about Walesa: in their opinion a true Pole would know to blame the British and/or the Jews.

SeanusThreads: 22 Posts: 30,158 Joined: Dec 25, 07	Edited by: Seanus Feb 5, 09, 14:53 / #
That was the Kaczyński era, always pointing the finger outward rather than inward. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DtMV44yoXZ0, this nicely sums up the Duck Brothers. Enjoy!! This is the shortened version, there is a longer version available. Here it is, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pq4eeyVr_Hs&feature=related

joepilsudskiThreads: 44 Posts: 2,529 Joined: Apr 27, 07	Feb 6, 09, 05:53 / #
Harry: You see that is what makes some Poles (and a lot of Plastic Poles) wonder about Walesa: in their opinion a true Pole would know to blame the British and/or the Jews. You are clinging to outdated stereotypes.

plk123Threads: 30 Posts: 6,412 Joined: Aug 29, 07	Feb 6, 09, 07:19 / #
Seanus: If I were him, I'd've blamed the Soviet system too. because it is true. that and russia exerted a lot of pressure warsaw's way.

HatefulBunch397Threads: - Posts: 1,018 Joined: Nov 5, 08	Feb 6, 09, 07:21 / #
joepilsudski: a true Pole would know to blame the British and/or the Jews. Not the jews, just the british :)