I call Russians to arise against Putin and Poles to arise against Tusk!

Crow:

mentioned that Holland`s peace keepers didn`t react- nor in moment when genocide was commited on Serbs, nor when Serbs (Mladic) retaliated, in Srebrenica and, when in chaos that occured war crimes were commited on Muslims.

Its obvious that Putin mistaken. But, hardly that politician of his calibar could made such a huge diplomatic blow. In any case we now with good reason can think that he sold Serbs.

CrowThreads: 367 Posts: 7,316 Joined: Feb 14, 07 [Suspended]	Edited by: Crow Sep 8, 08, 11:02 / #
now is obvious... Putin is one of Slavic traitors, same as Polish Tusk or Serbian Tadic before him, or side by side with him, or whatever... In time when Serbian public say that Russia is right for reacting in Ossetia because Russia is obviously right, Russia`s Putin and other representatives of Russia betrayed Serbs comparing Srebrenica to Ossetia. How Putin dared to compare that when at least him knows very well that 3000 (children woman and man) Serbians was masacred on most brutal ways by Arab/Bosnian mujaheedines, in UN `protected` zone before Mladic`s reaction (move of troops) was provoked??? And even then Mladic saved Bosnian Muslim woman and children! How Putin dared to spit on Serbs killed by mujaheedines. Maybe Putin now, this way obey to `world`s governmant. Maybe he scared and now falling in tarchery! Well, it won`t pass `Mr` Puta Putin! fu you!! you and Tusk and ** that `Serbian` traitor Tadic! Down with traitors! Help us Russians and Poles, go out on streets of your enslaved countries and put THEM down in dust where traitors belong! Only Slavija can save us! Long live Slavija! Slavija Majka! Slavija Besmrtna! Long live Poland! Long live Russia! Long live Serbia!

ShelleySThreads: 18 Posts: 3,647 Joined: Jun 26, 07	Sep 8, 08, 11:14 / #
Hmmmm, how long do you think it will be now before Serbria enter the EU?

CrowThreads: 367 Posts: 7,316 Joined: Feb 14, 07 [Suspended]	Sep 8, 08, 12:59 / #
ShelleyS: Hmmmm, how long do you think it will be now before Serbria enter the EU? i don`t know exactly but, most of Serbs would tell you that they think that Serbia won`t enter in EU but that would EU anex Serbia. Nobody ask us what we think. Our parliament if ugly joke. Our governmant- all open traitors and idiots after idiots. Serbia is some kind of protectorate, not just Kosovo and Metohija but whole country. As i already said, ultimate goal is Islamization of reagion and splitting of Slavic world on German-Turkish zones of control. Somebody preparing new strategic scene for time after NATO collapse. NATO is tool which needs to finish dirty job for our old nemesis. Seams that somebody trying to restore positions from time of Austro-Hungaria and Turkish Empire.... While Poland is loyal to NATO, Poland does not see that her strategic interests are attacked. Bottom line is that NATO represent tool of key financial magnates of western Europe. Even Germany is their tool You got your independance Poles and what have you done??? Oh Mother of God, you punished Serbs for your independance you won`t like that what would i tell to you but, i could almost clearly predict that Poland falling in trap and that would see same destine as Serbia and Yugoslavia before that. Same would happen to Czeska and Ukraine. That`s why so called west so strongly pressured on Slavic countries to recognize Kosovo. And, you did it my sisters and brothers, without wanted that. It`s because you have traitors on crucial positions. I sow that very same story already before dissolution of Yugoslavia. Slavic world would be first segmented and then split on different zones of control, so that we are divided and weak for good. That what happen to children of Great Moravia, to Dacia, could be easely destine of our children. No, Russia isn`t behind this. i think that this time Russia did not taken part in German schemes but herself falling in trap. And now, becoming aware of that trap tries to avoid trap accepting game what USA/Germany/Britain/France/Islamic league imposing on Slavs and world in general. Bottom line is that Russia without wanting that betraying Slavdom.... but, trechery is trechery, this way or another In Russian move against Serbs now i can even sense fear of Russia. Russia is scared. What we see now is how Russia retreat. Russia is in real fear when abandened Balkan with such a panic moves, that openly stubbed Serbs in the back. irronicaly, Poles shouldn`t be happy and satisfy with this situation, because on Balkan Russia defending her insterests, deffended Polish strategic interests, too. On Balkan, Russia accepted to died for Serbs who were in the same time loyal to both- to Poles and to Russians. Now, that is over and only Christ could save Slavic South. Serbs alone, this time, would be just erased and would be peace. Peace under German (read non-Slavic) conditions my family once trusted in USA, Britain and France. How naive we were God save Slavija!

osiolThreads: 59 Posts: 4,714 Joined: Jul 25, 07	Edited by: osiol Sep 8, 08, 13:01 / #
Can I rise against anyone? Crow: Puta I think "Puto" is the Spanish insult for a male. Any relation to Rasputin?

CrowThreads: 367 Posts: 7,316 Joined: Feb 14, 07 [Suspended]	Sep 8, 08, 13:08 / #
osiol: Can I rise against anyone? most of people are slaves without even being aware of that some are even happy slaves

osiolThreads: 59 Posts: 4,714 Joined: Jul 25, 07	Edited by: osiol Sep 8, 08, 13:14 / #
Crow: most of people are slaves without even being aware of that True, although some have more freedom than others (happy slaves?). Democracy in every instance that I have seen, is flawed, usually by the limited range of choice available, the persuasiveness of the media and big money, and by bureaucracy. It seems to be a global thing. However, countries that are isolationist seem to be even worse and even less democratic.

SashaThreads: 2 Posts: 1,597 Joined: Apr 19, 08	Sep 8, 08, 13:20 / #
osiol: Any relation to Rasputin? We have a joke in Russia. Raz putin, dva putin... Literally "one putin, two putin". "Raz putin" if pronounced fast sounds like "Rasputin" dropping a hint that we already had one bad guy "putin" and now we're having another one. Well... terrible explanation of me... I'm not sure if this clear. Borrka could have explained that better since he speaks Polish and Russian. Btw adjective "rasputny" means "dissolute" whereas "putny" might be rendered as "sth moving in the right direction". The base of the word is an ancient slavic "put'"=way. In Polish it can be the same, at least in Serbian is the same for sure. osiol: I think "Puto" is the Spanish insult for a male. Yeap. International. :)

osiolThreads: 59 Posts: 4,714 Joined: Jul 25, 07	Edited by: osiol Sep 8, 08, 13:23 / #
Sasha: Well... terrible explanation of me... I'm not sure if this I had actually heard this one before, but couldn't entirely remember it. Your explanation made sense to me.

CrowThreads: 367 Posts: 7,316 Joined: Feb 14, 07 [Suspended]	Edited by: Crow Sep 8, 08, 15:03 / #
so? Poles? Russians? you arising or not?

SeanBMThreads: 41 Posts: 8,726 Joined: Mar 10, 08	Sep 8, 08, 15:06 / #
Crow: so? Poles? Russians? you arising or not? I think you are great Crow :)

SeanusThreads: 22 Posts: 30,158 Joined: Dec 25, 07	Sep 9, 08, 03:47 / #
Russia fears NATO? Well, not really. NATO has the potential to strike fear into Russia given that the US has some hard hitters but the tone of dialogue is prevailing. Both big guns have enough experience through the Cold War not to antagonise each other. U think Russia fears reprisals of some sort? Come on, to hit Russia hard for what they did would be grossly unfair.

HarryThreads: 62 Posts: 8,508 Joined: May 2, 07 [Suspended]	Sep 9, 08, 17:23 / #
Crow: Only genocide that happened in Srebrenica was genocide on Serbs! Adore the way that you take the facts of history and then flip them 180 degrees. No doubt you will next be telling us about how the Jews packed poor innocent Nazis into death camps and gassed millions of them.

PolsonThreads: 15 Posts: 2,812 Joined: May 9, 07	Sep 18, 08, 10:17 / #
Erm...what is the problem with Tusk? :)

CrowThreads: 367 Posts: 7,316 Joined: Feb 14, 07 [Suspended]	Edited by: Crow Sep 18, 08, 10:32 / #
Polson: Erm...what is the problem with Tusk? is this answer on your question?... ``Dlaczego złamał pan prawo międzynarodowe i wolę większości Polaków i uznał niepodległość Kosowa? Pytanie padło z ust Michała Tuska, który synem premiera bynajmniej nie jest. Premier w odpowiedzi po raz kolejny zapewnił, że Polska nie występuje przeciwko Serbii a on sam "jest zakochany w Jugosłowiańskiej kulturze". Uznał, że Polska musiała wpisać się w ciąg decyzji państw całego globu, a zadaniem Polski w tej sytuacji jest balansowanie między interesami światowych mocarstw.`` eng. ``Why you break international law and jowl most of polish people and recognize kosowo?`` Question to Polish prime minister from student of Warsaw university when he have meet with students - Sprawy międzynarodowe: Kosowo i tarcza - tan, Gazeta.pl, mar; 2008-02-27 http://wiadomosci.gazeta.pl/Wiadomosci/1,80708,4968830.html Let me answer to that student instead of Tusk. Answer is simple: Tusk is Slavic traitor and fight for German interests on Balkan! who said that Poland and Russia can`t work togather? When you combine interests of their traitors, their Tu Tu Tusk and Puta Putin, you get ONE great sh Sasha: Tadic's already sold you. listen. Trechery is trechery. When you join in trechery to other traitor, you are still a traitor You can f* both- Tadic and Putin... and plus Tusk

SeanusThreads: 22 Posts: 30,158 Joined: Dec 25, 07	Sep 8, 08, 16:49 / #
But they are fellow Slavs. How could u, I mean, how could u? ;)

southernThreads: 116 Posts: 10,949 Joined: May 17, 07	Sep 8, 08, 16:56 / #
Crow: Putin is one of Slavic traitors I don't think so.Putin is the only one who strongly supported serbian rights on Kossovo. Crow: In Russian move against Serbs now i can even sense fear of Russia. Russia is scared. What we see now is how Russia retreat. Russia is in real fear Russia is not scared.The comparison is meant to be a joke.Were there not Russians in Srebrenica after all?Putin says all that to make West appear ridiculous.It is a war of words,peacekeepers,etc. I expect Russia to make its presence much more felt in Balcans.It will test the limits of the West,seeing how it will react.Kosovo is still an open issue for Russia.

SeanusThreads: 22 Posts: 30,158 Joined: Dec 25, 07	Sep 8, 08, 17:03 / #
Russia is scared of Serbia, daj spokój. Southern is right, why would Russia fear Serbia? It is a war of words. Listen to Southern, Crow

CrowThreads: 367 Posts: 7,316 Joined: Feb 14, 07 [Suspended]	Sep 9, 08, 03:31 / #
Seanus: Russia is scared of Serbia, daj spokój. No! Russia is in fear from NATO. It`s obvious to me Seanus: why would Russia fear Serbia? nonsense is even to speak about that. You didn`t understand me

southernThreads: 116 Posts: 10,949 Joined: May 17, 07	Sep 9, 08, 05:23 / #
Crow: Russia is in fear from NATO They are not in fear from NATO.They are pressed by it and try to weaken it.

CrowThreads: 367 Posts: 7,316 Joined: Feb 14, 07 [Suspended]	Edited by: Crow Sep 9, 08, 12:29 / #
southern: They are pressed by it and try to weaken it. How? Supporting Holland`s (EU/USA/NATO) BS on Serbs Only genocide that happened in Srebrenica was genocide on Serbs! If Holland`s peace keepers protected Serbs, Mladic wouldn`t happened in Srebrenica!!! and now Russia, instead to fight against anti-Serbian propaganda wall which surround us, Russia (particulary- Putin) because of her own interests spit on Serbs southern: They are not in fear from NATO. what is this then? Maybe Putin sold Serbians to so called west because of Caucasus? but but, one can`t sold strategic zone if one is capable to defend it... so i again coming to conclusion that Russia retreat on the other side, if all this is some kind of tactics, i would say- its not a sound strategy

southernThreads: 116 Posts: 10,949 Joined: May 17, 07	Sep 9, 08, 13:52 / #
Crow: on the other side, if all this is some kind of tactics, i would say- its not a sound strategy I think it is good.Wait and see.War in Caucasus means war in Kosovo again if we accept that the two cases are connected.

shopgirlThreads: 7 Posts: 1,446 Joined: Apr 6, 07	Sep 9, 08, 14:16 / #
I call Russians to arise against Putin and Poles to arise against Tusk! I thought you liked Russians, Crow? You want them to rise up and be imprisoned or killed? Threats to the govt are quickly silenced.

CrowThreads: 367 Posts: 7,316 Joined: Feb 14, 07 [Suspended]	Sep 9, 08, 16:04 / #
southern: I think it is good.Wait and see. this is all crazy. I sense that this fu*** world would blow up at any moment southern: War in Caucasus means war in Kosovo again if we accept that the two cases are connected. we shell see shopgirl: I thought you liked Russians, Crow? more i love them, more i criticize them same is with Poles. I criticize `their` Tusk but they know that i like them shopgirl: You want them to rise up and be imprisoned or killed? Threats to the govt are quickly silenced. deal with traitors as soon as possible or wait to expiriance Yugoslav example

joepilsudskiThreads: 44 Posts: 2,529 Joined: Apr 27, 07	Edited by: joepilsudski Sep 10, 08, 04:11 / #
I call Russians to arise against Putin and Poles to arise against Tusk! Yeah, and then what Crow?...Dis you read the article I sent you?...they should help clear your head about what's really going on in the Balkans...Crow, if you are a man of action, why not just declare a 'Pan-Slavic Union' set up a website, and start outlining specific policies, and how this union would work and be organized...Putin is a Slavic traitor?...Russia has supported the Serbs in the UN Security Council, and the Russian are working behind the scenes with Serbs both in Serbia and Srbska Republic to stop the Khazar Jews from buying up your whole country.

CrowThreads: 367 Posts: 7,316 Joined: Feb 14, 07 [Suspended]	Edited by: Crow Sep 10, 08, 14:09 / #
Putin had historical opportunity to help Serbians (to break informative blockade arround us), if in the moment when media were focused on him because of Georgia/Ossetia, mentioned that Holland`s peace keepers didn`t react- nor in moment when genocide was commited on Serbs, nor when Serbs (Mladic) retaliated, in Srebrenica and, when in chaos that occured war crimes were commited on Muslims. Its obvious that Putin mistaken. But, hardly that politician of his calibar could made such a huge diplomatic blow. In any case we now with good reason can think that he sold Serbs. Tadic and many other Serbian politicians sold Serbs before Putin but, that does not giving `green light` to Putin to join them. Traitors in the leadership of Serbia are part of batle for Serbia (part of CIA, etc actions against Serbian people) and Russia should help to Serbs to get rid of traitors and not that traitors strenghten their positions.

southernThreads: 116 Posts: 10,949 Joined: May 17, 07	Sep 10, 08, 15:00 / #
Crow: mentioned that Holland`s peace keepers didn`t react- nor in moment when genocide was commited on Serbs, nor when Serbs (Mladic) retaliated, in Srebrenica and, when in chaos that occured war crimes were commited on Muslims. Its obvious that Putin mistaken. But, hardly that politician of his calibar could made such a huge diplomatic blow. In any case we now with good reason can think that he sold Serbs. Crow don't be paranoid.Till Russia recognizes Kosovo,Putin will not have sold Serbs.Actions matter,not words.Do you think Putin is against the separation of serb state in Bosnia?

CrowThreads: 367 Posts: 7,316 Joined: Feb 14, 07 [Suspended]	Sep 18, 08, 10:14 / #
Bottom line is that, if Russia couldn`t help to Serbs, Russia shouldn`t complicate Serbian situation even more, repeating anti-Serbian propaganda of so called west While i was full of understandings for Russian hesitation to openly enter in conflict because of Serbs, i didn`t expect that Russia stub us in the back in order to strengthen her diplomatic arguments on Caucasus i just hope that Putin didn`t sold us cheaply. Go Russia, save yourself and prosper! same i can tell to Poland

SashaThreads: 2 Posts: 1,597 Joined: Apr 19, 08	Sep 18, 08, 10:28 / #
Crow: repeating anti-Serbian propaganda of so called west Maybe I missed something... but I don't remember anything anti-serbian said in Russia. Tadic's already sold you. Don't worry.

PolsonThreads: 15 Posts: 2,812 Joined: May 9, 07	Sep 18, 08, 10:41 / #
Crow: Tusk is Slavic traitor and fight for German interests on Balkan! Any proof or details? :)

Grzegorz_Threads: 81 Posts: 6,213 Joined: Nov 16, 06	Sep 18, 08, 10:42 / #
Tusk is a damn clown.