Dealing with constant insults against Polish

Quoting: gkisapizda, Post #24

Sorry to say it but theres a little community of polish growing at my work place, and the 3 poles that have landed in my part of the factory are all lazy, they constantly talk to each other, stop work and sit down and then when asked to actually do some work they have the cheek to say I'm lazy. This experience of working with the polish just makes me hope the government deports them all back to poland.

Benjamin Spychaj	Sep 1, 06, 05:14 / #
Hello. My name is Benjamin Spychaj. I recently mentioned I am Polish to my friends and they constantly make jokes about my people. Every single day I have to hear about how Polish cavalry attacked German tanks with swords, how Polish have small penises, how "Polacks" are stupid and cannot do anything right. Does anyone have good ways to counter these kinds of jokes? Sometimes they really piss me off and I am tempted to go Polack and throw them out the window. Benjamin Spychaj

optsThreads: 12 Posts: 333 Joined: Jul 29, 06	Edited by: opts Sep 1, 06, 07:45 / #
Benjamin no need for you to get pissed off. Just ignore those people. Those are not your friends; they are your co-workers, colleagues, etc. What is important is what people, who you care about and love, say to you or about you. There rest is just hot air.

krysiaThreads: 26 Posts: 3,604 Joined: Aug 10, 06	Sep 1, 06, 09:44 / #
I live in an area where they put down "polacks" all the time. I tell them: "do you know what "ski" stands for?" - "Smart, Knowledgable and Intelligent". I tell them about Kopernicus from Torun, that if it wasn't for him, the sun would still be moving around the Earth. etc. And I don't understand the reason why they do it, because most people in this community immigrated from Poland in the 1800's. And in other towns, where there are a lot of Scandinavian people, they say Scandinavian jokes. Or German. But I have to admit, some are really funny.

dingdong	Sep 1, 06, 10:05 / #
if people see that you are affected by their jokes...embarrassed ,hurt annoyed, etc,then they will carry on doing it.its human nature and a josseling for power.we learn it as children. my humble advice would be to take the wind out of their sails and laugh at the joke...in other words dont take it as a slight against you personally.....in the end it all comes down to a question of self-confidence and feeling good about yourself.all the best.peter

john1955	Sep 2, 06, 00:18 / #
Benjamin, Throwing them out the window will certainly stop the remarks, although might not impress the boss. If this bothers you to the point of stress in your life and if this is in USA; these remarks could be considered as creating a "Hostile Work Environment" and there are labor laws to protect you. I personally feel there are other ways to handle the problem; however I do know it is bothersome. I just don't like people to be picked on and harrassed whatever the reason is. I supervise over 100 people and have a very short fuse for this kind of behavior, we all can have fun at the workplace but not this way. Good luck in the future John

IndianPolishGurl	Sep 2, 06, 00:47 / #
There are jokes about every country and culture. Even within own cultures... just different cities laugh at each other... the best is either ignore it... or come back with a joke about the person who "joke attacked" you

eddien	Sep 2, 06, 05:47 / #
The Polish are becoming hated wherever they go...they are like the asians...too many of them enter other countries and the nationals of that country turn against them

MatyjaszThreads: 2 Posts: 1,786 Joined: Jul 20, 06	Sep 2, 06, 06:25 / #
OK, let's clarify something here. Polish cavalry NEVER, I repeat NEVER attacked German tanks with swords. This scuttlebutt was a part of Nazi propaganda, and it was made up in order to discredit Polish army in the eyes of his allies.

eddien	Sep 2, 06, 06:42 / #
well I can tell you they are hated in the UK. It is the governments fault for allowing too many of them to enter. The UK govenment originally predicted 13,500 to arrive in one year and instead 400,000 arrived! So now the people have had enough and look at them as if they are scum.

krysiaThreads: 26 Posts: 3,604 Joined: Aug 10, 06	Sep 2, 06, 07:32 / #
Quoting: eddien, Post #17 well I can tell you they are hated in the UK. It is the governments fault for allowing too many of them to enter. The UK govenment originally predicted 13,500 to arrive in one year and instead 400,000 arrived! So now the people have had enough and look at them as if they are scum. Now that all the Poles left Poland, maybe you should go there now? You can certainly afford to pay your bills there....

MatyjaszThreads: 2 Posts: 1,786 Joined: Jul 20, 06	Sep 2, 06, 07:33 / #
I think that because of your descent you are already on top of their "People That We Truly Hate, and Wish Them To Die In a Sudden and Painful Way" list. I think that it could possibly be more worse for them, if you would be a lesbian and date a Muslim girl.

krysiaThreads: 26 Posts: 3,604 Joined: Aug 10, 06	Sep 2, 06, 07:44 / #
Quoting: Matyjasz, Post #20 "People That We Truly Hate, and Wish Them To Die In a Sudden and Painful Way" list. I like that! I will start a list like that. But the only person on it will be my "X".

IndianPolishGurl	Sep 2, 06, 07:50 / #
Quoting: Matyjasz, Post #20 "People That We Truly Hate, and Wish Them To Die In a Sudden and Painful Way" haha! awww well I couldn't be prouder to be who I am [Two amazing nations like Poland and India are united through me :P]... so they can hate all they like... hate brings only uglyness to their lives, not mine

gkisapizda	Sep 8, 06, 12:04 / #
Quoting: FISZ, Post #26 ...and yes, you are a sorry individual. Ok and u've made that analysis on the basis of what? My short written piece on the useless polish twats at work. Well the way i see it ur lucky we've got a prick of a prime minister letting all of the polish in, maybe come re-election time conservative or bnp get the vote and u can all F off back to poland and earn £2 a week.

gkisapizda	Sep 8, 06, 11:34 / #
Sorry to say it but theres a little community of polish growing at my work place, and the 3 poles that have landed in my part of the factory are all lazy, they constantly talk to each other, stop work and sit down and then when asked to actually do some work they have the cheek to say I'm lazy. This experience of working with the polish just makes me hope the government deports them all back to poland.

FISZThreads: 31 Posts: 2,607 Joined: Jun 14, 06	Sep 8, 06, 11:42 / #
Quoting: gkisapizda, Post #24 Sorry to say it but theres a little community of polish growing at my work place, and the 3 poles that have landed in my part of the factory are all lazy, they constantly talk to each other, stop work and sit down and then when asked to actually do some work they have the cheek to say I'm lazy. This experience of working with the polish just makes me hope the government deports them all back to poland. Well, you just happened to get 3 lazy poles. Could be 3 lazy Americans, Germans...whatever. All of the poles that work here are hard workers. Looks like your hiring manager didn't do a good job of selecting workers. This isn't the fault of all Polish.

FISZThreads: 31 Posts: 2,607 Joined: Jun 14, 06	Sep 8, 06, 11:43 / #
Quoting: gkisapizda, Post #24 Sorry to say it ...and yes, you are a sorry individual.

aawilThreads: 1 Posts: 23 Joined: Aug 21, 06	Sep 8, 06, 11:47 / #
I never gave much thought about polish jokes until I spent some time there. Even though I'm not polish hearing them kinda pisses me off now. All you have to do is go into a mcdonalds in the US for an example of stupidity and incompetence. Granted the only time I go is for breakfast once in a while. For some reason the young people working in them in poland actually knew what they were doing for the most part. We certainly don't have that here.

FISZThreads: 31 Posts: 2,607 Joined: Jun 14, 06	Sep 8, 06, 12:22 / #
Quoting: gkisapizda, Post #28 Ok and u've made that analysis on the basis of what? My short written piece on the useless polish twats at work. Yes. it only takes 1 comment like that to see that you're sorry. Nuff said. Yes, there are many Pl taking some of the less desireable jobs and I think it's great that they have the opportunity to learn better trades, earn more money as well as helping their country along by achieving these skills to bring back to Poland. Believe me, we have our share of immigrants that take our lower paying jobs, but we learn to live together here. it makes for a better atmosphere. There are only a few people that want to deport them all back mainly beacuse they're uneducated and have to compete for that same job. Quoting: gkisapizda, Post #28 maybe come re-election time conservative or bnp get the vote and u can all F off back to poland and earn £2 a week. Whats £2 a week?

plgThreads: 25 Posts: 316 Joined: Jul 9, 06	Sep 9, 06, 16:48 / #
what that is actually your pig that will keep u fat for a while

krysiaThreads: 26 Posts: 3,604 Joined: Aug 10, 06	Sep 9, 06, 18:50 / #
But just think of the beautiful interracial children you guys would have. Your son would have a goat head and daughter a goat butt with 4 tits. Just think how much milk you can get out her?

plgThreads: 25 Posts: 316 Joined: Jul 9, 06	Sep 9, 06, 18:53 / #
bardzo zabawnay

krysiaThreads: 26 Posts: 3,604 Joined: Aug 10, 06	Sep 9, 06, 19:38 / #
Quoting: plg, Post #51 bardzo zabawnay It's you that is Bardzo Zabawny, plg!!!! (and it should be "zabawny" not " zabawnay")

plgThreads: 25 Posts: 316 Joined: Jul 9, 06	Sep 10, 06, 06:31 / #
yes i know how to spell it im better at writing not typing its just you pronounce it zabavNAY thats why i done that by mistake bardzo zabawnay - shit i done it again bardzo zabawny thats better

jospychaj	Sep 13, 06, 18:45 / #
Benjamin, remember that your last name SPYCHAJ means pushing in Polish. Also remember that the Polish people are a very proud nationality, especially since Poland itself was wiped off the face of the earth for 132 years and the Polish people came back stronger than they were for decades. If other people feel that they have to mock out the Polish person, only means that they are small minded. Many great discoveries came from Polish people. They are gifted and traditionalist. Believing that Poland will never die again. Remember most of all that Polish people work harder than any other nationality as we take pride in what we do, as well as, pass onto others the wisdom, skills taught to us, and our traditions to others. Hold your head up high and remember moreso that you are better than those who don't look beyond the jokes.

billski	Sep 15, 06, 23:11 / #
The truth regarding the Polish Cavalry charging German tanks in WW2 is the Typicall the germans would strike with Panzers in the lead followed by infantry troops. The Polish Cavalry was charging to get behind the tanks and kill as many infantry troops as possible leaving the Panzers vulnerable without infantry support. Anyone who continues to make Polish jokes is small minded - they are peple who can only speak one language! Most Polish people can speak two or more fluently - now whos is the dump one?? If it wasn;t for the Polish helping Washington during the revolutionary war - there may have not been a Untied States - read your history.

Irena ZThreads: 3 Posts: 10 Joined: Sep 15, 06	Sep 18, 06, 00:47 / #
In Virginia,USA, there is a county called Pulaski. And in the Yorktown National park there are historic markers listing the Poles along with the French in different battles of the American revolution. So America wouldn't be here without the help of those stupid Polocks and the terrible French! But the rednecks here aren't educated enough to know that. So everyone who doens't watch NASCAR and whose family tree branches is stupid. Does anyone have a link that talks about the Poles attacking the Nazi's with swords? I get that story all the time from my boyfriend who is Irish. I tell him it shows extreme bravery. If it was Nazi propoganda, I would love to rub his Irish face in it! And what is an Irish 7 course meal? A six pack of beer and a boiled potato. What is a Canadian 7 course meal? A six pack and a doughnut. What is a redneck 7 course meal? There isn't one! Beer comes in a 6 pack not a seven pack.

Irena ZThreads: 3 Posts: 10 Joined: Sep 15, 06	Sep 18, 06, 13:44 / #
Then this brings up an interesting idea. Did the Nazi's come up with the whole idea of the "Polish Joke"? Growing up as the only Pole in this redneck place, I got a lot of jokes. Hell, people here couldn't even say my name right. Why were we always assumed to be stupid? If this was a Nazi invention, would anyone who uses Polish jokes be spreading Nazi hogwash? That would be something to tell someone the next time they say "Hey, wanna hear a Polish joke?"

FISZThreads: 31 Posts: 2,607 Joined: Jun 14, 06	Sep 18, 06, 14:13 / #
Americans first targeted Poles during their first wave of immigration, circa 1917. Like all immigrants, they had trouble understanding the language, customs and accoutrements of urban technology. Nativists who found immigrants threatening found it easy to brand them stupid. Stand-up comics who grew up with ethnic humor made it a part of their routines. Poles seemed to get special attention from Jewish Borscht Belt comics, perhaps because of Poland’s long history of anti-Semitism. In the 1960s, West Germans began a Polish joke cycle in response to tensions with then-Communist Poland. This was then imported into American comedy. The civil rights movement made color-based ethnic humor increasingly unacceptable (though, obviously, it never vanished completely), and the rise of left-wing comedians made blue-collar conservatism the butt of many jokes. Working-class Polish-Americans made classic, and acceptable, targets of ethnic jokes. But Polish-Americans were now too integrated for jokes about broken English and social slip-ups to make sense. So the jokes emphasized technological stupidity. This struck a chord. In the midst of an arms race, a space race and the increase of techno gadgets in daily life, technology seemed either threatening or just hard to keep up with. Jokes about people who didn’t understand technology or the logic behind it articulated that anxiety and relieved it by transferring it to another group. Polish jokes exploded in popularity. By the 1980s, many kids repeating such jokes though “Polack” was another word for “moron” rather than someone from an actual country. Recently, Polish jokes have become socially unacceptable, both because of anti-defamation groups (which recently got a Polish joke removed from “The Drew Carey Show” and because the Solidarity movement of the early ’80s showed Poles were smart and pro-democracy, to boot. But the need to pick on a minority and saddle it with our fears about still-increasing technology remains. The same old jokes are still circulating, now applied to such “acceptable” targets as Iraqis and blondes.

lefThreads: 13 Posts: 564 Joined: Jun 27, 06	Sep 18, 06, 16:28 / #
Quoting: FISZ, Post #61 because of Poland’s long history of anti-Semitism bullshit