Dealing with constant insults against Polish

Quoting: MATRIX

Here in Spain alsmot everyone hates Germans/British/Italian, in the cities where is a lot of them you can't go out in the night, they only make trobule, and British don't even care about learning Spanish, they go everywhere and speak English to everyone, i wonder what would you think if everyone in the Uk started to speak his own language??

I have been in many countries and in fact English people are one of the most hated...

peterwegThreads: 30 Posts: 1,445 Joined: Feb 16, 07	Edited by: peterweg Mar 2, 07, 12:59 / #
The Russians defeated the Nazi's. If America had not got involved they would have swept up all the way to the English Channel and stopped there. America involvement in WW2 was minimal. It only got involved because if USSR had defeated the Nazi's, communism would rule the world today. And the the USA would not have the technological advantage that it was give by Britain (Radar, anti-biotics, sonar, asdic, jet engine) and Germany (rocket technology). American abandoned Britain and Europe for two years and sold Poland down the river for 60.

just browsing	Mar 3, 07, 02:09 / #
but how many more allies would have been lost if America had joined earlier? My father told me there was a saying during the war "when the british shoot the Germans duck, when the Germans shoot the British duck, when the Americans shoot every ****** ducks"

peterwegThreads: 30 Posts: 1,445 Joined: Feb 16, 07	Mar 3, 07, 02:22 / #
Its true that 40% of American loses in WW2 were Blue-on-Blue. I.e. caused by the Americans themselves, a figure that hasn't got much better today.

just browsing	Mar 3, 07, 02:29 / #
they're so good at it, they've even got a name for it

m33073	Mar 3, 07, 08:50 / #
Ben, I have not even read the rest of the comments about your topic or subject but this pisses me off BIG TIME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Polish jokes exist for one reason and one reason only. Your country is very Catholic. There is A LOT of Anti-Catholicism in the world. Your country and your country men "stick to your guns" you never have to explain for that or make apologies for that. That is what REAL MEN AND WOMEN DO!!! So would you rather be a Frenchman who gave up the capital of their country in 6 weeks? Your fore-father's fought, they fought hard, and they knew they would probably be slaughtered. They ***** fought anyway. That is what men and woman do. Dogs bark, babies cry, and men fight. I am a US soldier. I have been to hell and back. Came home and gone back to hell again. I have fought next to Brits, Australians, French, you name it. But holy *** . Give me a *** Pole in my foxhole and I know I will live to see my family once again. Your Army is *** BAD ASS!!! You guys may be small but you are definitely not pussies and you fight like there is no tommorrow. They say there is no such thing as an atheist in a foxhole. ****!!! There is no such thing as having a *** Pole next to you and know you are going home. You guys are *** hard core, ass kicking, name taking, sons of *** (and i mean that in the best possible way, if there is a way to take it). You guys are fun, funny, and professional. Just so everyone who reads this knows, I am not of Polish decent. But *** A, the US Army loves you guys. We see a Pole and he is an instant friend. Do not worry what these dumb fucks say about you and your heritage, worry about being around a US Soldier and try to keep him from killing some ignorant *** for insulting you. Do your US Soldier a favor and keep him out of Leavenwoth, dont let him kill an ignorant *****. By the way, the Australians rock too, BIG TIME!!!

Patrycja19Threads: 76 Posts: 3,877 Joined: Oct 31, 06	Mar 3, 07, 19:24 / #
Quoting: peterweg The Russians defeated the Nazi's. Why is it when we all learn about history theres different versions of it? and why is it when someone says America did it, that NO we didnt do anything to help, we didnt come in and rescue anyone, we just stood around drinking java and watched while everyone else who was getting reemed a new arse did it all? Im not saying russia didnt put up a good fight, but dont talk smack about America when you dont even know. only those who fought know what it was like and what they lived through. proof is in what they saw. what they lived through. thats history. learning from those who survived thru it!

ArturSzastakThreads: 6 Posts: 828 Joined: Feb 16, 07	Mar 3, 07, 19:31 / #
The winners write the history books. Its the cause of all stereotypical problems for today. Polish were just hit very hard. Most people in the US still think half of Poland is Jweish. They don't teach about the rest of the world at all in the US. They talk about US involvments in WW1 and 2, but never about any other country. Its always US did this or that. That and other countries do the same thing. This leads to many assumptions. It's nobody's fault really, they just haven't been taught right. Thats why most of what I know today, I learned on my own. I just have a need to learn as much as I can so I don't sound like an ******* asking questions like: "Do all French women have hairy pits? Do polar bears come from Poland? Why does Russia hate everyone?" and so on. French women are just like all others, polar bears are in NORTH POLE!!!, and the Russian Government gives Russian people a bad name. They are generally just like us Poles, they like their food, Vodka, and parties. Don't believe the history books

RiffThreads: - Posts: 79 Joined: Oct 23, 06	Mar 4, 07, 13:47 / #
Quoting: peterweg The Russians defeated the Nazi's. Did you ever hear of Stalingrad? Without America supplies to Russia, Germany would have rolled through Russia. Without American help Russia would have fallen. America even built the railroads in Russia to carry the food, guns,ammo,machines, equipment to the Russians. If Germany would not have had to worry about Americans coming from Normandy and Going through Italy. Russia would have been destroyed easily. Americas involvement was so mininimal that Britain could have made D-day a total success themselves. The Germans knew that Britain didn't want to take them on so Germany took what ever they wanted Including Poland. Remember Chamberlain? You sound like some ungrateful weasel that acts like the USA was obligated to help Britian and Europe. Thanks Britian for developing the A-bomb, without your technology WWII would have been lost. Thanks for helping the USA in the war in the Pacific. Talk your nonsense Peon, but you know you would be kissing a Nazi's ass if it wasn't for the USA. Or maybe a Russian's ass if it wasn't for the USA. Britian sold their Polish buddies down the river and don't you ever forget it.

just browsing	Mar 4, 07, 13:52 / #
Quoting: Riff You sound like some ungrateful weasel that acts like the USA was obligated to help Britian and Europe I thought America joined the war because of pearl harbor

RiffThreads: - Posts: 79 Joined: Oct 23, 06	Mar 4, 07, 14:04 / #
Quoting: peterweg It only got involved because if USSR had defeated the Nazi's, communism would rule the world today. Yes, the USA only got involved when the USSR rolled into Berlin. Idiot! In your first sentence you say the "Russians defeated the Nazi's." In this quote above you state " if the USSR had defeated the Nazi's". Swift By the way, The USA allowed the Russians to roll into Berlin first.

camboz1	Mar 7, 07, 14:55 / #
Oh aye, peter weg you seriously need to get a life, your nothing but a bitter little man who probably masturbates 10 times a day ,coz uv got f all else to do

FISZThreads: 31 Posts: 2,607 Joined: Jun 14, 06	Mar 7, 07, 15:03 / #
Riff's been talking and wrestling a lot with jesus....he may not be too stable.

GoonieThreads: 10 Posts: 297 Joined: Mar 6, 07	Mar 8, 07, 20:02 / #
this went off topic pretty fast lol I enjoy polak jokes

King SobieskiThreads: 7 Posts: 1,103 Joined: Jan 22, 07	Mar 8, 07, 20:47 / #
Quoting: ogorek Hitler never intended to cross the channel (hurt/punish Britain - Yes) but not cross the channel. The hype was a smoke screen to hide plans to invade Russia. If he was serious - then there would have been plans to disable the navy ships first. why did he engage the "battle of britain" then? he had intentions to invade britain, but realised it may not be possible when he lost the battle of britain. if the luftwaffe had gained aerial superiority then he may have been tempted to cross the channel.

RiffThreads: - Posts: 79 Joined: Oct 23, 06	Mar 4, 07, 14:22 / #
Quoting: peterweg Its true that 40% of American loses in WW2 were Blue-on-Blue. I.e. caused by the Americans themselves, a figure that hasn't got much better today. Make up some more of your truths. Remember when you made up the fact that you were actually in a fight once in your life. Sissies talking about brave men dying doesn't go over so well. How many Germans were shot by the British in the Battle of the Bulge?

Jasiu	Mar 4, 07, 14:26 / #
Quoting: Riff How many Germans were shot by the British in the Battle of the Bulge? and does anyone know the price of aggs whilst we're at it...?

Patrycja19Threads: 76 Posts: 3,877 Joined: Oct 31, 06	Mar 4, 07, 21:58 / #
Quoting: ArturSzastak the Russian Government gives Russian people a bad name. They are generally just like us Poles, they like their food, Vodka, and parties I dont believe it, I have a friend who just moved from Russia to New Zealand and she had students she taught, her schedule was really different. so I was learning all about how they do things, and she asked me to explain to her a Question which I am going to find, makes for a good conversation on here. but my impression of the question left me with thought that Russia makes it seem like no one should leave or try to better themselfs somewhere else because the commercial market is the same, like they were saying, or telling people, our products are not as good as theirs so therefore why buy them? it was hard to explain it at the same time hard to understand it. I will have to find this Question and post !

Patrycja19Threads: 76 Posts: 3,877 Joined: Oct 31, 06	Mar 4, 07, 22:08 / #
Quoting: ArturSzastak Most people in the US still think half of Poland is Jweish. They don't teach about the rest of the world at all in the US. NO your wrong, its the teachers who pick the cirrculum <~ahh spelling yes, we learn about alot, in school they push it so fast you dont have time to get interested, least I didnt, and some teachers didnt even teach at times, but yes I remember learning or having to study alot on europe, and because some teachers didnt take the time to teach , my grades sucked. I learned more out of school then I did in it. as for Poland being half Jewish, again, your wrong from my standpoint. I just think of Poland as Poland. good food, hospitality, and friendly.

camboz1	Mar 7, 07, 14:43 / #
Riff ,have you been sniffing glue or something. The wermacht were defeated in stalingrad because they had no supplies,extreme cold, freezing equipment and the fighting was from house to house and was and turned to stalemate giving the russians time to build equipment .the yanks had f all to do with it. sure they bankrolled britain after the expeditionary force was pushed into the sea at dunkirk,(which were still paying back) but only got involved and declared war after pearl harbour was bombed and i think if british and commonwealth pilots had,nt won the battle of britain then there would have been no d-day invasion because there would have been nowhere to base the attack that you seem to think america was the only country involved in. I am not insulting america ,im glad the us and the uk always back each other in wars but you need to stop sniffing glue.

camboz1	Mar 7, 07, 14:59 / #
Riff ,have you been sniffing glue or something. The wermacht were defeated in stalingrad because they had no supplies,extreme cold, freezing equipment and the fighting was from house to house and was and turned to stalemate giving the russians time to build equipment .the yanks had f all to do with it. sure they bankrolled britain after the expeditionary force was pushed into the sea at dunkirk,(which were still paying back) but only got involved and declared war after pearl harbour was bombed and i think if british and commonwealth pilots had,nt won the battle of britain then there would have been no d-day invasion because there would have been nowhere to base the attack that you seem to think america was the only country involved in. I am not insulting america ,im glad the us and the uk always back each other in wars but you need to stop sniffing glue.

peterwegThreads: 30 Posts: 1,445 Joined: Feb 16, 07	Mar 7, 07, 15:07 / #
Battle of the Bulge? Thats when the Germans attack at the weakest point manned by Americans. The British attacked the Germans around the north of the bulge and helped stop the advance. The war in the west was trivial compaired to that in the east. Number of Soviets/allies kia/captured in the east 20Million. Germany kia/captured 15million USA deaths 418K, UK 450K in all theatres. The total number of Germanys facing the 1944 landings was 400K. 90% of the Axis armies were fighting Russia. As I said, the US and UK contributions were comparatively trivial. The US didn't volunteer to fight either Germany or Japan. Both declared war on the US and attacked it. Quoting: Riff Yes, the USA only got involved when the USSR rolled into Berlin. Idiot! As Russia would have defeated Germany without help of the US, in May 1945 Russia could have simply driven from Berlin to Paris and installed communism throughout Europe, putting allied troops there prevented that. Stalin would have all Germany's technology. Such as the V2. So no space technology for the USA. Whether even Russia could of invaded Britain is debatable. Th 1940 plans for operation Sealion would have resulted in the destruction of the German invasion force. The USA involvement was not an altruistic sacrifice, it made a considerable profit out of it. and protected its self from eventual defeat by the commiunists.

camboz1	Mar 7, 07, 15:15 / #
well put peterweg , i take it all back

peterwegThreads: 30 Posts: 1,445 Joined: Feb 16, 07	Mar 8, 07, 09:00 / #
I should get on with my work though....

ogorekThreads: - Posts: 233 Joined: Dec 16, 06	Mar 8, 07, 18:33 / #
You have to remember that the US had already bailed Europe out in WWI. Germany gave up when the US started fighting. They owed Europe nothing really. Just think what the people of the US thought when Europe was at it again only 20 years later. **** em! The US military was itchin to kick German ass again. Pearl Harbor justified US involvement and the US bailed Europe out again. The UK should be worshiping the English Channel instead of saying, - yeah, we held off Hitler. If it wasn't for the channel England would have held for 3 weeks - if that. Hitler never intended to cross the channel (hurt/punish Britain - Yes) but not cross the channel. The hype was a smoke screen to hide plans to invade Russia. If he was serious - then there would have been plans to disable the navy ships first. The size of Russia , bad weather and numbers of Russian soldiers defeated the Nazis. They don't teach this in school but Russia invaded Poland in 1920 and got their ass kicked by the Poles. If it wasn't for the US and allied pressure from west, Germany would have held the Russians. The allies weakened the Germans psychologically and similarly encouraged the Russians.

ArturSzastakThreads: 6 Posts: 828 Joined: Feb 16, 07	Mar 8, 07, 20:07 / #
Quoting: Patrycja19 as for Poland being half Jewish, again, your wrong from my standpoint. I didn't say half of Poland was Jewish. I was just stating what most of the Americans I know thought. I was talking in terms of religion btw, not nationality

ArturSzastakThreads: 6 Posts: 828 Joined: Feb 16, 07	Mar 8, 07, 20:12 / #
Quoting: ogorek Hitler never intended to cross the channel (hurt/punish Britain - Yes) but not cross the channel. The hype was a smoke screen to hide plans to invade Russia. If he was serious - then there would have been plans to disable the navy ships first. I got into a huge arguement with my teacher about this. I was saying what you were. Quoting: ogorek The size of Russia , bad weather and numbers of Russian soldiers defeated the Nazis. They don't teach this in school but Russia invaded Poland in 1920 and got their ass kicked by the Poles. If it wasn't for the US and allied pressure from west, Germany would have held the Russians. The allies weakened the Germans psychologically and similarly encouraged the Russians. Yes, Yes, and YES. US sent supplies which ultimately enable thed USSR to continue to grow in power until it became the "Evil" Red Empire that most Americans hated/freared in the 60's-80's.

MATRIX	Mar 9, 07, 08:19 / #
Hahaha, someone said they in the uk they hate poles. Weird! When i was there, noone ever made a joke about thme or somethnig, pehapps you are just afraid or loosing your jobs? Here in Spain alsmot everyone hates Germans/British/Italian, in the cities where is a lot of them you can't go out in the night, they only make trobule, and British don't even care about learning Spanish, they go everywhere and speak English to everyone, i wonder what would you think if everyone in the Uk started to speak his own language?? I have been in many countries and in fact English people are one of the most hated...

sapphireThreads: 28 Posts: 1,418 Joined: Dec 7, 06	Mar 9, 07, 08:23 / #
Quoting: MATRIX Here in Spain alsmot everyone hates Germans/British/Italian, in the cities where is a lot of them you can't go out in the night, they only make trobule, and British don't even care about learning Spanish, they go everywhere and speak English to everyone, i wonder what would you think if everyone in the Uk started to speak his own language?? I have been in many countries and in fact English people are one of the most hated... You twat. Its true that there are some expats in Spain that dont make the effort to learn the language, but thats just not true of everyone. I speak fluent Spanish and have lived and worked in Spain and I have many UK friends there that also speak Spanish and have Spanish friends. Perhaps you would care to list these many countries where everyone hates the English...