Poland aids the world

sapphire wrote:

sorry but thats a rather ignorant generalised viewpoint. As an aid/development worker I have seen many lives changed beyond belief by relatively small amounts of money. Of course there are good and bad interventions, but please dont discount all development work other than campaigning as bad. Fairtrade is great, but there is also a need for plenty of other interventions.. and yes I guess its a pretty new concept for Poland, but I am glad that at least one person wants to share it on here.

LukaszThreads: 73 Posts: 2,396 Joined: Sep 1, 07	Edited by: Lukasz Mar 26, 08, 08:28 / #
I think we should inform about some actions in different way than G. so here you have ;) : http://www.polskapomoc.gov.pl/Main,page,160.html intersting projects: Project: "Poland-Belarus Journalists' Club" Project: "Improvement of water supply for Palestinian schools" Project "Kogere Primary School" implemented by Simba Friends Foundation in Sega village in western Kenya co-financed through the Polish-Canadian Development Co-operation funds "Together to Europe - students exchange programme between Poland and Ukraine" - a project of Polish Robert Shuman Foundation Polish assistance activities in Tanzania cover the following areas: Medical care and health protection (fight against HIV/AIDS, tuberculosis, malaria and fistula), agriculture access to potable water Polish assistance activities in Angola include: support for geological research, development of mining and crude oil processing; fishery; reintegration of former soldiers with the society and assistance for internal refugees; provision of drinking water to the population; health care, including combating infectious diseases.

celinskiThreads: 83 Posts: 2,800 Joined: Nov 14, 07	Mar 26, 08, 08:38 / #
Thank you Lukasz, "Do unto Others" is a great story. If only all country's could learn from this.

sapphireThreads: 28 Posts: 1,418 Joined: Dec 7, 06	Mar 26, 08, 08:43 / #
at last I have seen something interesting on Polish forums.. must be a miracle.

ShelleySThreads: 18 Posts: 3,647 Joined: Jun 26, 07	Mar 26, 08, 08:48 / #
celinski wrote: Thank you Lukasz, "Do unto Others" is a great story. If only all country's could learn from this. A vast majority of countries do contribute aid to other countries, its just we dont need to tell the whole world since we've been doing it since I can remember! doesnt change anything in these places though, civil war still continues, AIDS continues to florish and they still dont have a clue about sex education, therefore pumping out kids that will only live a short period of time...things have got better since "fair trade" began, these people then have pride and earn their money instead of some do gooders going over with pampers and baby milk and few nice colour crayons!

LukaszThreads: 73 Posts: 2,396 Joined: Sep 1, 07	Edited by: Lukasz Mar 26, 08, 08:49 / #
Poland has more funds and has started to do something in serious way, so it is kind of news. as to help provided by "other countries" I remember winter jackets for Africa

sapphireThreads: 28 Posts: 1,418 Joined: Dec 7, 06	Mar 26, 08, 08:54 / #
ShelleyS wrote: doesnt change anything in these places though, civil war still continues, AIDS continues to florish and they still dont have a clue about sex education, therefore pumping out kids that will only live a short period of time...things have got better since "fair trade" began, these people then have pride and earn their money instead of some do gooders going over with pampers and baby milk and few nice colour crayons! sorry but thats a rather ignorant generalised viewpoint. As an aid/development worker I have seen many lives changed beyond belief by relatively small amounts of money. Of course there are good and bad interventions, but please dont discount all development work other than campaigning as bad. Fairtrade is great, but there is also a need for plenty of other interventions.. and yes I guess its a pretty new concept for Poland, but I am glad that at least one person wants to share it on here.

away guyThreads: 12 Posts: 392 Joined: Mar 16, 07	Mar 26, 08, 08:58 / #
Listen you all im from africa and AIDS is huge there as we all know and many say its because they are un educated that is shittttt, its just because they are bored and have no work and now goals in life thats why they always complaining they sick and have no food but you see her sitting with 200 kids around her thats being just cruel and stupid !!!! AIDS is here to keep the human number down as any normal sickness in the wild to keep animal numbers down.....the worl is only big enough for a certain number of people, if we cure aids there will be a even worse one to come !!

sapphireThreads: 28 Posts: 1,418 Joined: Dec 7, 06	Mar 26, 08, 08:59 / #
away guy you are a total idiot.. no wonder they wouldnt let you into the UK.

away guyThreads: 12 Posts: 392 Joined: Mar 16, 07	Mar 26, 08, 09:03 / #
i did get into the UK for ur info it was just normal procedure that took abit long hahahaha saphire i like u but you not from africa and u dont know the history or way of thinking so dont be like all these overseas idiots that go to africa and think they can change it cause u cant !!

sapphireThreads: 28 Posts: 1,418 Joined: Dec 7, 06	Mar 26, 08, 09:12 / #
away guy wrote: but you not from africa and u dont know the history or way of thinking so dont be like all these overseas idiots that go to africa and think they can change it cause u cant !! how do you know where I am from? I have probably travelled to more African countries than you have and have spent 10 years working there on all kinds of development and humanitarian aid projects including HIV/AIDS interventions with UNAIDs, so actually I do know what Im talking about. If your comment is serious then you should be ashamed, maybe you should take up politics.. you would fit right in.

ConstantineKThreads: 35 Posts: 1,949 Joined: May 10, 07	Mar 26, 08, 09:28 / #
Lukasz wrote: Russians and rheir superiour culture ... lol Any doubts?

SeanusThreads: 22 Posts: 30,158 Joined: Dec 25, 07	Feb 6, 09, 17:00 / #
Let's just hope Polish aid gets through to Palestinians.

JohnPThreads: - Posts: 544 Joined: Sep 8, 07	Feb 6, 09, 17:55 / #
Seanus: Let's just hope Polish aid gets through to Palestinians. We can hope, although just noticed a headline in the paper claiming Hamas has seized much of the aid intended for Gaza, which doesn't bode well, at first glance anyway. Will read it next time I go by there and see what the article says. John P.

SeanusThreads: 22 Posts: 30,158 Joined: Dec 25, 07	Feb 6, 09, 17:57 / #
As I said, it works on both sides. Israel are blocking aid deliveries. Funny that you mentioned Hamas first. Both sides are guilty.

ShelleySThreads: 18 Posts: 3,647 Joined: Jun 26, 07	Mar 26, 08, 09:15 / #
sapphire wrote: sorry but thats a rather ignorant generalised viewpoint. As an aid/development worker I have seen many lives changed beyond belief by relatively small amounts of money. Of course there are good and bad interventions, but please dont discount all development work other than campaigning as bad. Fairtrade is great, but there is also a need for plenty of other interventions.. and yes I guess its a pretty new concept for Poland, but I am glad that at least one person wants to share it on here. I don’t think I did discount all aid work, they were your words not mind. Fairtrade has been a success because of the nature of the help and guidance given and because in general people from these countries want a better life and having been shown how this is achievable they have attained it.

celinskiThreads: 83 Posts: 2,800 Joined: Nov 14, 07	Mar 26, 08, 09:15 / #
away guy wrote: think they can change it cause u cant !! It must change, your children are dying due to unsanitary water supply's, lack of medicine, starvation. This should not be taking place in this day and age. No child should have to go to bed hungry.

away guyThreads: 12 Posts: 392 Joined: Mar 16, 07	Mar 26, 08, 09:16 / #
ok u in the uk but ur polish i recon ....anyway yes i know you have been to africa u told me this last year..... im a bushman and camped and lived in the african bush often so i know it all im like rambo ... anyway it sounds like u doing a good job i appreciate ur work, but this is all my views that i gave to the forum not to u , take care xxx

celinskiThreads: 83 Posts: 2,800 Joined: Nov 14, 07	Mar 26, 08, 09:18 / #
away guy wrote: im a bushman and camped and lived in the african bush often so i know it all im like rambo .. Rambo never had a computer in the bush. lol

ShelleySThreads: 18 Posts: 3,647 Joined: Jun 26, 07	Mar 26, 08, 09:18 / #
celinski wrote: It must change, your children are dying due to unsanitary water supply's, lack of medicine, starvation. This should not be taking place in this day and age. No child should have to go to bed hungry. What you have to understand is its all about Class - the difference between rich and poor in developing countries is a million miles - so you see he couldnt give a sh!t about someone in some dirt poor village because, for one he lives in Europe and probably came from some dodgy corrupt family in Africa!

ConstantineKThreads: 35 Posts: 1,949 Joined: May 10, 07	Mar 26, 08, 09:20 / #
Lukasz wrote: Project: "Poland-Belarus Journalists' Club" Project: "Improvement of water supply for Palestinian schools" Project "Kogere Primary School" implemented by Simba Friends Foundation in Sega village in western Kenya co-financed through the Polish-Canadian Development Co-operation funds "Together to Europe - students exchange programme between Poland and Ukraine" - a project of Polish Robert Shuman Foundation Thank you Lukasz! You should add some more projects: "Poland for guinea pig's rights" "Poland for planting of trees and gardens on Mars" and whole heap of other senseless progects...the more you spend, the more means we have. sapphire wrote: at last I have seen something interesting on Polish forums.. must be a miracle. You not exactly right, it's not a miracle, it's just a mirage....

LukaszThreads: 73 Posts: 2,396 Joined: Sep 1, 07	Mar 26, 08, 09:24 / #
ConstantineK wrote: ConstantineK Russians and rheir superiour culture ... lol

away guyThreads: 12 Posts: 392 Joined: Mar 16, 07	Mar 26, 08, 09:27 / #
??????

ShelleySThreads: 18 Posts: 3,647 Joined: Jun 26, 07	Mar 26, 08, 09:32 / #
away guy wrote: Im a English guy living in Poland just outside of Warsaw away guy wrote: im a bushman away guy wrote: camped and lived in the african bush away guy wrote: im like rambo Blimey this dude has some personalities...

celinskiThreads: 83 Posts: 2,800 Joined: Nov 14, 07	Mar 26, 08, 09:34 / #
ShelleyS wrote: Blimey this dude has some personalities... God I love Rambo.

away guyThreads: 12 Posts: 392 Joined: Mar 16, 07	Mar 26, 08, 09:35 / #
ShelleyS wrote: Blimey this dude has some personalities... Damn Shells u good , u a detective ? Hehehehe Ok u got me there but yes im in poland but im a nez nam polskego but im from africa and i am a bushman ..

celinskiThreads: 83 Posts: 2,800 Joined: Nov 14, 07	Mar 26, 08, 09:48 / #
away guy wrote: i am a bushman .. How do you define "bushman" in Poland? I really don't know from the USA.

away guyThreads: 12 Posts: 392 Joined: Mar 16, 07	Mar 26, 08, 09:50 / #
a man that loves and sometimes lives in the bush to relax

sapphireThreads: 28 Posts: 1,418 Joined: Dec 7, 06	Mar 26, 08, 09:57 / #
Ive just come back from Serengeti..that is really the bush.. or not actually since there are very few bushes or trees for miles. Did Rambo ever go to Africa? Last I heard he was holed up in Myanmar.

celinskiThreads: 83 Posts: 2,800 Joined: Nov 14, 07	Mar 26, 08, 09:58 / #
away guy wrote: lives in the bush to relax Thanks I thought this was all you had kinda like a USA hobo. Now I get it the great outdoors, much better.