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southern:

I imagine if Greece were in the geographical position of Poland,we would keep the gates for Russia constantly open scare the West big time.How they manage to make you play their game is a mystery for me.(and you are both slavic nations,damn again how is it possible?)

szarlotkaThreads: 14 Posts: 3,349 Joined: Feb 20, 07	Nov 2, 09, 18:41 / #
Bratwurst Boy: Well, that's a far cry from excercising nuclear attacks on a NATO member... That is an absolutely NO GO and would be over all international papers by now not to mention diplomatical rows! All of the nuclear powers simulate the usage of field based so called 'tactcical' nuclear weapons BB but usually not in the simulation of an attack on a particular country!

Bratwurst BoyThreads: 11 Posts: 14,563 Joined: Apr 2, 07	Edited by: Bratwurst Boy Nov 2, 09, 18:43 / #
szarlotka: All of the nuclear powers simulate the usage of field based so called 'tactcical' nuclear weapons BB but usually not in the simulation of an attack on a particular country! That's what I meant too... I'm not discussing military manouvres as every nation does and needs them but what the Telegraph told is another story...much more agressive and threatening...a NATO member no less. I wonder why it didn't made the headlines of other papers already...if this is true!

szarlotkaThreads: 14 Posts: 3,349 Joined: Feb 20, 07	Nov 2, 09, 18:45 / #
Bratwurst Boy: much more agressive and threatening One of many signs that the old style crypto-fascist policies are being resurrected under Mr Putin I'd say.

TorqThreads: 65 Posts: 4,024 Joined: Apr 10, 09 MEMBER	Nov 2, 09, 19:04 / #
Actually on Polish portals I only read about the conventional army excercise. If the news about the nuclear simulation are confirmed then it's another reason for Poland to revoke the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty and acquire our own atomic weapons.

Bratwurst BoyThreads: 11 Posts: 14,563 Joined: Apr 2, 07	Edited by: Bratwurst Boy Nov 2, 09, 19:07 / #
Torq: and acquire our own atomic weapons. Great! Then you have some and France has some and GB has some...only poor little Germany has nothing! NO FAIR!!! wails

SokratesThreads: 19 Posts: 4,464 Joined: Jan 19, 09 [Suspended]	Edited by: Sokrates Nov 2, 09, 19:08 / #
gumishu: I haven't so far been able to find any mention the Russians simulated tactical nuking of Poland during the excercise There was none, they were having an excersize on how to invade Poland (Poland was dubbed as an agressor) tests of nuclear bombers and launches of missiles capable of carrying nuclear warheads but no actual simulations of nuking. Bratwurst Boy: Well, that's a far cry from excercising nuclear attacks on a NATO member... Meh this is just a propaganda show coupled with actual combat testing of what junk they still have, no one in Poland cares that much and rightly so. Bratwurst Boy: Great! Then you have some and France has some and GB has some...only poor little Germany has nothing! NO FAIR!!! wails Its not 100% certain that you dont have them and you can develop them in approx half a year (by comparison Poland would require about 2 years).

TheOtherThreads: 5 Posts: 1,584 Joined: Jul 13, 09	Nov 2, 09, 20:37 / #
Sokrates: Poland was dubbed as an agressor They were probably reading the discussion between you and Ironside to take back Lwów and annex parts of the Ukraine... :)

IronsideThreads: 59 Posts: 6,778 Joined: Feb 26, 09	Nov 2, 09, 22:31 / #
Seanus: his romanticism flew in the face of political developments. Romanticism? It was sound idea. # Seanus: What specific time were you referring to, Ironside? (1918-1920) Seanus: Please let me know your interpretation of the Seimas as it seems to me to be analogous to Rugova claiming to be the PM of Kosovo, Could you elaborate, I'm not sure what you mean...

southernThreads: 116 Posts: 10,949 Joined: May 17, 07	Nov 3, 09, 00:47 / #
I imagine if Greece were in the geographical position of Poland,we would keep the gates for Russia constantly open scare the West big time.How they manage to make you play their game is a mystery for me.(and you are both slavic nations,damn again how is it possible?)

Mr GrunwaldThreads: 34 Posts: 2,358 Joined: Dec 16, 08	Nov 3, 09, 03:49 / #
southern: I imagine if Greece were in the geographical position of Poland,we would keep the gates for Russia constantly open scare the West big time.How they manage to make you play their game is a mystery for me.(and you are both slavic nations,damn again how is it possible?) Becaouse they tried to walk across Poland in napoleonic times pillaging burning everything, then later in further uprisings. Poles were never anti- Russians until partitions I say-

SashaThreads: 2 Posts: 1,597 Joined: Apr 19, 08	Edited by: Sasha Nov 3, 09, 06:51 / #
Mr Grunwald: Becaouse they tried to walk across Poland in napoleonic times pillaging burning everything, then later in further uprisings. Poles were never anti- Russians until partitions I say- Hmm... I guess things are just a bit more complicated than you want 'em to be represented. No one at least on the official tribune want to be anti- anything. Likewise I don't want Poles to be pictured antirussian either before or after partition(s). That's more about the state's will to expand boundaries at any price, mutual will I should say. Yet if we want to stick with "zub za zub" (tit for tat)-logic we have to be honest from the very start, precisely get back to the beginning of XVII century and (if mention Napoleon times) the very same year (1812) of XIX century. Yes, I know we both can provide each other with lots of excuses... should we though? :) The best we can do now is not letting ourselves to dance to politicians' tune, or otherwise we're taking a risk of shooting ourselves in the foot over again. Blod kan inte tvättas bort med blod. Förstod du mig? :)

SokratesThreads: 19 Posts: 4,464 Joined: Jan 19, 09 [Suspended]	Nov 3, 09, 11:41 / #
Sasha: Sasha If Russian politicians and more Russian people would think like you sir Russia would be the greatest state that ever was or will be.