POLAND'S POPULATION IS SHRINKING...

Bartolome:

Who wants children during so unstable times ? Unemployment is looming upon more and more families, so having and proper raising a child or children under such circumstances would be a burden their parents could be unable to bear. And combined absurd properties prices and pathetic salaries force many young couples to stay with their parents for longer that they want.

Seanus:

You have to send some pretty Serbian women in to encourage procreation, Crow. In this way, a greater connection will be developed :) In turn, some Polish women could help out Serbian men in the future :)

Polonius3Threads: 1,005 Posts: 4,833 Joined: Apr 11, 08	Jul 25, 09, 16:36 / #
The birth-rate in Poland is falling and is now one of the lowest in the world. According to the Mundi Index, out of 221 countries worldwide looked at, Poland had the 193rd lowest number of births, with just 10 per 1000 persons in the population. That’s within the fifth lowest birth rate in Europe. The population is falling and protections estimate that there will be four million Poles fewer than today in 2030. Why do you think this is the case? Is this a favourable or unfavourable development for Poland? http://polskieradio.pl/thenews/business/artykul112745_living_longer__o n_smaller_pensions.html

MichalThreads: - Posts: 2,408 Joined: Feb 27, 07	Jul 25, 09, 18:14 / #
Yes, and the death rate is increasing as well. people are living shorter lives in Poland and more and more of the young are leaving. There is no future in Poland and never has been. Poland has always been a net contributor of other people's populations! Just look at Chicago-its full of the Polish buggers!!

TheOtherThreads: 5 Posts: 1,584 Joined: Jul 13, 09	Jul 25, 09, 18:18 / #
Forget about global warming and all the other problems - the exploding population growth and demand for resources will kill Earth (and us all). So, it might be unfavourable for Poland, Germany and many other nations with declining populations, but for the planet it's a good development. We have to start somewhere.

ZIMMYThreads: 10 Posts: 2,353 Joined: Feb 21, 09	Jul 25, 09, 18:29 / #
Polonius3: The population is falling and protections estimate that there will be four million Poles fewer than today in 2030. Maybe Poland can import Mexicans - there are plenty everywhere in the U.S.

PlasticPoleThreads: 10 Posts: 5,429 Joined: May 28, 09	Jul 25, 09, 18:33 / #
Zimmy, that might be what Europe ends up doing, just like the US has done, to make up for population deficits. They encourage mass immigration to even out the numbers.

ragtime27Threads: 1 Posts: 245 Joined: Feb 20, 09	Jul 25, 09, 18:49 / #
POLES....,make baby not war

mafketisThreads: 17 Posts: 1,880 Joined: Mar 31, 08	Jul 25, 09, 19:10 / #
One of the big reasons for the falling birthrate is that young women are afraid they won't be able to find (or keep) a good job if they have kids. This was less a concern in communist times when having kids was not an issue in terms of employment but in the current system it's changing a lot of behaviors, especially since very few men in Poland make enough money to support non-income-generating wife and kids.

Filios1Threads: 15 Posts: 1,953 Joined: Nov 13, 07	Jul 25, 09, 19:16 / #
mafketis: falling birthrate is that young women There are no young women. They are all busy having abortions in the UK and elsewhere in Europe.

SeanusThreads: 22 Posts: 30,158 Joined: Dec 25, 07	Jul 25, 09, 19:19 / #
Which just goes to show that it's about options and not principles. How can there be so many mistakes that they want an abortion? Abortions should be costly to serve as a deterrent.

frdThreads: 8 Posts: 1,956 Joined: Feb 3, 09	Jul 25, 09, 19:20 / #
I think it's due to the fact that having late children is becoming trendy nowadays. More and more young couples choose a free lifestyle over responsibility and attachment.

Polonius3Threads: 1,005 Posts: 4,833 Joined: Apr 11, 08	Jul 25, 09, 22:08 / #
However the above-cited link says life expectancy is growing in Poland. Perhaps a decline in drinking and smoking may have something to do with it.

southernThreads: 116 Posts: 10,949 Joined: May 17, 07	Jul 25, 09, 23:55 / #
Another problem is polish women marrying third wordlers in London thus reducing the available gene pool.

CrowThreads: 367 Posts: 7,316 Joined: Feb 14, 07 [Suspended]	Edited by: Crow Jul 26, 09, 00:01 / #
POLAND'S POPULATION IS SHRINKING... not good somebody mentined that to Serbs in case with Kosovo before region was taken from us

southernThreads: 116 Posts: 10,949 Joined: May 17, 07	Jul 26, 09, 00:09 / #
I tried to hook up serbian guys with polish girls on vaccations but serbian guys don't get it.They seem too primitive to polish women.

southernThreads: 116 Posts: 10,949 Joined: May 17, 07	Jul 25, 09, 19:21 / #
mafketis: This was less a concern in communist times when having kids was not an issue in terms of employment Exactly.In all former communists countries the population is declining with Russia the most prominent example.

SeanusThreads: 22 Posts: 30,158 Joined: Dec 25, 07	Jul 25, 09, 19:21 / #
Spot on, frd. There is social pressure to marry but the kids can come later, after the holidays and job hopping.

BartolomeThreads: 2 Posts: 1,345 Joined: Sep 14, 06	Jul 25, 09, 22:46 / #
Who wants children during so unstable times ? Unemployment is looming upon more and more families, so having and proper raising a child or children under such circumstances would be a burden their parents could be unable to bear. And combined absurd properties prices and pathetic salaries force many young couples to stay with their parents for longer that they want.

MatyjaszThreads: 2 Posts: 1,786 Joined: Jul 20, 06	Jul 25, 09, 23:09 / #
Bartolome: Who wants children during so unstable times ? Well there are some lunatics who do actually. ;) At my work there are at least 6 people that are expecting children this year. I think on the whole, that Bartolome, frd an mafetkis are right, however judging by the numbers of pregnant women looming the streets of Poland these days I expect this year to be a record-breaking one. It's probably a demographic echo of the early 80’s baby boom.

SeanusThreads: 22 Posts: 30,158 Joined: Dec 25, 07	Jul 26, 09, 00:04 / #
You have to send some pretty Serbian women in to encourage procreation, Crow. In this way, a greater connection will be developed :) In turn, some Polish women could help out Serbian men in the future :)

Jihozapad	Jul 26, 09, 00:10 / #
Bartolome: Who wants children during so unstable times ? Unemployment is looming upon more and more families, so having and proper raising a child or children under such circumstances would be a burden their parents could be unable to bear. And combined absurd properties prices and pathetic salaries force many young couples to stay with their parents for longer that they want. Doesn't stop all those Africans allegedly living on a dollar a day though, does it? Seanus: You have to send some pretty Serbian women in to encourage procreation, Crow. In this way, a greater connection will be developed :) In turn, some Polish women could help out Serbian men in the future :) not a bad idea this one, at least it keeps the European/Slavic gene pool going ;)

CrowThreads: 367 Posts: 7,316 Joined: Feb 14, 07 [Suspended]	Edited by: Crow Jul 26, 09, 00:15 / #
Seanus: You have to send some pretty Serbian women in to encourage procreation, Crow. In this way, a greater connection will be developed :) In turn, some Polish women could help out Serbian men in the future :) yes, let us exchange portion of our woman Please Poles bang our females! southern: I tried to hook up serbian guys with polish girls on vaccations but serbian guys don't get it.They seem too primitive to polish women. did you introduced some highlanders to them?

southernThreads: 116 Posts: 10,949 Joined: May 17, 07	Jul 26, 09, 00:21 / #
Crow: did you introduced some highlanders to them? Yes,probably.Of course polish women are always willing to embrace fellow slavic nations but Serbs seem a bit intimidating,frightening on the outside.

rockThreads: 6 Posts: 1,490 Joined: Jun 13, 08	Jul 26, 09, 00:45 / #
According the UN population forecasts for 2030, the population of the first 10 countries in Europe as follows. (million) RUSSIA 128 TURKEY 91 GERMANY 78 U. KINGDOM 68 FRANCE 66 ITALY 60 SPAIN 50 UKRAINE 40 POLAND 36 ROMANIA 20

CrowThreads: 367 Posts: 7,316 Joined: Feb 14, 07 [Suspended]	Edited by: Crow Jul 26, 09, 01:20 / #
rock: According the UN population forecasts for 2030, the population of the first 10 countries in Europe as follows. (million) RUSSIA 128 TURKEY 91 GERMANY 78 U. KINGDOM 68 FRANCE 66 ITALY 60 SPAIN 50 UKRAINE 40 POLAND 36 ROMANIA 20 without Slavic Alliance, Slavs don`t have chance to survive and preserve their resources for themselves. Sarmatia Europae is minumum. Poles should think about it seriously. I urge on Poles to think

frdThreads: 8 Posts: 1,956 Joined: Feb 3, 09	Jul 26, 09, 01:42 / #
Crow: I urge on Poles to think Or to procreate? : o

CrowThreads: 367 Posts: 7,316 Joined: Feb 14, 07 [Suspended]	Jul 26, 09, 02:22 / #
frd: Or to procreate? : o sure but anyway, look at megatrends. There is no time. Only Sarmatia Europae could buy some time to us i am deadly serious about it.

SRK85Threads: - Posts: 75 Joined: Mar 30, 09	Jul 26, 09, 04:05 / #
In most countries to encourage population growth incentives are given to couple who make babies pretty much. Does Poland not give out incentives for couple to have children? Poland is a big enough country to support 50 million I don't know if their economy can support it though.

southernThreads: 116 Posts: 10,949 Joined: May 17, 07	Edited by: southern Jul 26, 09, 11:43 / #
Crow: Please Poles bang our females! I have seen some exciting specimens by slavic interbreeding like women with ukrainian-belarus-russian origin,with polish-lithuanian-ukrainian or czech-slovak-hungarian origin and the results were always exotic.I suppose a serbian-polish mix would lead to phenomenal women.

BartolomeThreads: 2 Posts: 1,345 Joined: Sep 14, 06	Jul 26, 09, 12:33 / #
Jihozapad: Doesn't stop all those Africans allegedly living on a dollar a day though, does it? They've been living that way for centuries, if not for thousands of year. And we're Europeans, not Africans. Besides why do you think there's such big exodus from Africa ?

Jihozapad	Jul 26, 09, 12:41 / #
Bartolome: why do you think there's such big exodus from Africa ? I can think of a quite a few reasons ;)