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z_dariusThreads: 22
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  Sep 22, 08, 17:40 /  #
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  Sep 22, 08, 17:57 /  #
They are going to drive down the wages... go away...
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Edited by: osiol   Sep 22, 08, 18:00 /  #
An article about one man!

Where there's one, there are always more though. The chap who I have variously referred to as my lodger, flatmate, colleague, nieudacznik, niedołęga, debil and Polish teacher will also be returning to Poland soon (he needs to pass the Polish equivalent of the 11+ or something). It's about time I had my flat all to myself again.

I should apologise now for some of the slightly less favourable titles I have bestowed upon him.
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  Sep 22, 08, 18:14 /  #
Poles keep away from Poland !
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  Sep 22, 08, 18:16 /  #
Actually the article talks about one man returning home and then only the possibility of others returning and the actuality that many won't and the impact that will have on Poland.

So z_darius, what was the point to your thread?
z_dariusThreads: 22
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  Sep 22, 08, 19:06 /  #
Misty:

So z_darius, what was the point to your thread?

no point at all.
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  Sep 22, 08, 19:08 /  #
I, along with my parents have been in Canada 19 years. They talk about moving back to Poland to retire. So this reverse migration is entirely possible- not to mention a good thing for Poland. I personally love Poland but my Polish now is a bit rusty. I'm sure if I took the time to brush up on it I'd be alright. I'm in my mid twenties and there's nothig really keeping me here in Canada except high wages. On my dads side he has one cousin here with her son and daughter and on my moms side she has a cousin through marriage living here. We're not close in proximity so we never see each other. It's almost like not having family here at all. Having Canadian friends is never the same as having Polish friends. Also my immediate uncles, aunts, cousins and grandparents are in Poland.
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  Sep 22, 08, 22:48 /  #
hey z, i can post a link to one about poles exiting because pl is going to hell.
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  Sep 23, 08, 03:36 /  #
Grzegorz_:

They are going to drive down the wages... go away...


Nah, your country needs them :) Just think of all that healthy competition for jobs and :)
z_dariusThreads: 22
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  Sep 24, 08, 05:39 /  #
plk123:

hey z, i can post a link to one about poles exiting because pl is going to hell.

oh, I know. We all have a little reason to brag once in a while ;)
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  Sep 24, 08, 08:06 /  #
I am not convinced that there is a "massive" go-back-home trend. I've worked with quite a few poles who've got families and kids in the UK and have been in the uk for over 4 years. Those ones have simply flushed the idea of going back out of the system. They are happily settled in Britain. I've also met a lot of twenty something toiling in dead end jobs, speaking very good English, well integrated within the British society and they simply enjoy the lifestyle too much to simply let it go and head back to grey, gloomy and corrupt Poland.

My guess is that most of the ones who are going back r the ones who never managed, or never tried, to get used to the system in the UK and who've always kept a foot back in Poland anyhow.




PJ
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  Sep 24, 08, 08:09 /  #
why would they go back, when there are such sexy women in the UK..
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  Sep 24, 08, 08:37 /  #
Economies in western Europe are struggling but i dont think poles are going home.
polish are like jews
the only way is an "Expulsion" of Easter European from Western European territories but this is not going to happen :)
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  Sep 24, 08, 08:49 /  #
espana:

the only way is an "Expulsion" of Easter European from Western European territories



Funny you say that. How about the "Expulsion" of Spain out of the EU and send it back to its poor dark days right after the franco-era when the country barely had any motorways and when the entire costa del sol could have been bought for a pittance?



PJ
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Edited by: espana   Sep 24, 08, 08:57 /  #
ParisJazz:

after the franco-era

with franco everything was good ,,after the franco-era i m sure was better than all this ****** Easter European communist states

costa del sol is ruined thank to easter european mafias.
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  Sep 24, 08, 09:16 /  #
Poles are coming home

and it was about time

Serbia needs them!
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  Sep 24, 08, 09:22 /  #
espana:

with franco everything was good




You need serious and urgent counseling.




PJ
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  Sep 24, 08, 09:40 /  #
Crow:

Serbia needs them!


They're going to Poland and couldn't give a toss about Serbs!
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Edited by: espana   Sep 24, 08, 09:43 /  #
ParisJazz:

You need serious and urgent counseling.

dont be chicken and kiss her now ( take your hat off first)
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  Sep 24, 08, 09:52 /  #
i always thought it was the Brits who ruined the Costa del Crime.
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  Sep 24, 08, 11:01 /  #
sapphire:

i always thought it was the Brits who ruined the Costa del Crime.


You mean the savage Brits held the land owners as well as the city planners at gunpoint and forced them to sell land and sign planning permission?


How come they haven't managed to ruin Corsica yet?




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Edited by: sapphire   Sep 24, 08, 11:10 /  #
nope I meant the amount of British criminals who go to live there. Im not saying that the Spanish are forced to sell their land, but there is undoubtedly a divide between most Brits and Spaniards in many parts. It makes me sick that many Brits cant be bothered to learn the lingo, Ive even seen signs on bars, saying no Spanish allowed, presumably so as to stop them being attacked by drunken lager louts. And before you condemn me, I'm British myself and I've seen it first hand, not just from a package holiday. ANyway, this is waaaaaaaaaaaaaaay off topic.

Some papers are reporting a shortage of labour for the Olympic Stadium due to Polish people returning home, but I think for all those who are returning, many are leaving again after only a few months, if not to return to the UK, then to other countries.
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  Sep 24, 08, 12:21 /  #
ShelleyS:

They're going to Poland and couldn't give a toss about Serbs!

its ok, its ok. all what we need is that they aren`t on the other side
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  Sep 24, 08, 12:42 /  #
espana:

costa del sol is ruined

Being particularly keen on Mediterranean flora, I would say that much of the Costa del Sol has been ruined by the tourist industry, a tourism industry that (correct me if I'm wrong) was started under Franco. Littoral habitats have been destroyed under concrete, and even more is still threatened.

sapphire:

It makes me sick that many Brits cant be bothered to learn the lingo

One of the reasons I've never been particularly tempted to go to Spain. A neighbour of mine has a son who lives and works in a fairly touristy part of Spain. He speaks fluent Spanish and runs a hairdressing business, catering for both Brits and Spanish people. So some DO learn the language and integrate, but this chap does print two sets of business cards: some in Spanish, some in English for all the retards out there.

ParisJazz:

My guess is that most of the ones who are going back r the ones who never managed, or never tried, to get used to the system in the UK and who've always kept a foot back in Poland anyhow.

Some will most certainly those who thought it would be handed to them on a plate but then failed. Others will be those who have done well, picked up some new ideas whilst abroad, and will return home with a fresh look at life and work in Poland.
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  Sep 24, 08, 12:45 /  #
Taitors stay away !!!!!11
espana:


with franco everything was good ,,after the franco-era i m sure was better than all this ****** Easter European communist states


True.
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  Oct 24, 08, 03:45 /  #
Just goes to show that not all UK journalists work for the Daily Fail. A nice article from the Telegraph

telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/poland/3248852/Polish-immigrants -leaving-Britain-What-the-Poles-did-for-us.html

And to prove further that good journalism is not dead, read this one from yesterday. Nothing to do with Poland, a lot to do with life. IMHO one of the finest pieces of writing I have ever read. I'm not ashamed that it moved me to tears.

telegraph.co.uk/sport/rugbyunion/3242030/It-took-courage-for-the-paren ts-of-Daniel-James-to-say-goodbye-Rugby-Union.html
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  Oct 24, 08, 04:30 /  #
More...

http://www.samizdata.net/blog/archives/2008/10/poles_are_leavi.html
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  Oct 24, 08, 05:02 /  #
I could only laugh at this remark:

"Simple things like being treated politely in bars and restaurants had all but disappeared before Poles arrived in large numbers to work here. Now that has changed and will remain changed. Britain is changing itself."
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  Mar 23, 09, 01:09 /  #
Grzegorz_:
They are going to drive down the wages... go away...

aahhahahahahahah true.
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  Mar 23, 09, 05:55 /  #
Grzegorz_:
They are going to drive down the wages... go away...

Greg, unemployment in Poland is about 14%, more in the country areas, most poles returning will have zus entitlements of 12 months unemployment benefits, (plus cash in hand work).. I don't think wages can get much lower in Poland, unless your offering peanuts!

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