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Poles honour ‘Cold Warrior’ Ronald Reagan

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celinskiThreads: 83 Posts: 2,800 Joined: Nov 14, 07	Edited by: Administrator Jul 23, 08, 14:43 / #
Has anyone seen this yet or know where there may be a picture posted? Poles honour ‘Cold Warrior’ Ronald Reagan Polish authorities have erected a monument to US president Ronald Reagan, feted for his crusade against communism and seen by some as having hastened the collapse of the Soviet bloc, reports said Tuesday. http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/4082

osiolThreads: 59 Posts: 4,714 Joined: Jul 25, 07	Jul 23, 08, 14:48 / #
No statue of Thatcher with her handbag then?

celinskiThreads: 83 Posts: 2,800 Joined: Nov 14, 07	Jul 23, 08, 15:09 / #
osiol: Thatcher with her handbag then? lol not yet

SeanusThreads: 22 Posts: 30,158 Joined: Dec 25, 07	Jul 23, 08, 15:14 / #
Another idiot who perpetuated a needless 'war' with Russia. The need to have an enemy was very strong. Making an enemy of a country who has more nuclear warheads was a bit foolish to say the least. Scots and Slavs know about being warriors, that creep only knew how to hide behind big weapons. Were he to be at the helm of say, Macedonia, do u really think he'd be so cocksure? I think not somehow.

szkotja2007Threads: 38 Posts: 2,544 Joined: Dec 29, 06	Jul 23, 08, 15:22 / #
Alzheimers ? I m glad its not Alzheimers.

celinskiThreads: 83 Posts: 2,800 Joined: Nov 14, 07	Jul 23, 08, 15:41 / #

WroclawThreads: 77 Posts: 7,404 Joined: Apr 1, 06 [Moderator]	Jul 23, 08, 16:53 / #
celinski: Poles honour ‘Cold Warrior’ Ronald Reagan He'd turn in his grave, if he could see what he is honoured with/by.

noimmigration	Jul 23, 08, 17:18 / #
the poles really are a bunch of arse kissers arent they.

ConstantineKThreads: 35 Posts: 1,949 Joined: May 10, 07	Jul 24, 08, 05:50 / #
celinski: Has anyone seen this yet or know where there may be a picture posted? The licking masters' boots always was an essential part of slaves' duties. And it is not important who is a master Russia, US or somebody else. Lick the boots and adore us!

LukaszThreads: 73 Posts: 2,396 Joined: Sep 1, 07	Edited by: Lukasz Jul 24, 08, 05:55 / #
ConstantineK: The licking masters' boots always was an essential part of slaves' duties. And it is not important who is a master Russia, US or somebody else. Lick the boots and adore us! Russians... Poles honestly like Reagan :) All in all idea of Star Wars was amaizing.

ConstantineKThreads: 35 Posts: 1,949 Joined: May 10, 07	Edited by: ConstantineK Jul 24, 08, 06:00 / #
Lukasz: Russians... Poles honestly like Reagan :) All in all idea of Star Wars was amaizing. Ha-ha. No doubt, slaves always like their masters, it is their job! Moreover, they feel a need to adore somebody. Otherwise they will be punnished.

LukaszThreads: 73 Posts: 2,396 Joined: Sep 1, 07	Jul 24, 08, 06:21 / #

BorrkaThreads: 49 Posts: 770 Joined: Apr 25, 08	Jul 24, 08, 06:33 / #
Well ... I have to be a native born Polish slave LOL. I really respect Mr Reagan and enjoy results of his politics ! Just take a look at remains of the wannabe Soviet Empire. With population (number of "rabs") cut by 50%, with economics downgraded to the third word's oil emirate and the sphere of influence reduced to Chukcha land ... it makes a perfect picture of how successful Reagan's strategy used to be ! The only memories of the good times are toothless babushkas crying "pobeda" (victory) every May.

Bratwurst BoyThreads: 11 Posts: 14,563 Joined: Apr 2, 07	Edited by: Bratwurst Boy Jul 24, 08, 06:42 / #
About Reagan...the eastern german gov and the western german lefties hated him so he get's some brownie points from me! But on the other hand which countries would have suffered most if pushes had come to shove? Yup, Germany, Poland and others along the Iron curtain in central Europe...so no thanks for all that military macho posturing!

BorrkaThreads: 49 Posts: 770 Joined: Apr 25, 08	Jul 24, 08, 06:49 / #
Würstel if it wasn't for Reagan your Zonnies would be kept behind the wall for the next 1000 years. You are not rebels, are you ?

LukaszThreads: 73 Posts: 2,396 Joined: Sep 1, 07	Jul 24, 08, 06:52 / #
There are funny stats ... In eastern Germany in every 10 Germans one was secret police denunciator. in Poland in every 1000 Poles one was secret police denunciator ... there is difference

BorrkaThreads: 49 Posts: 770 Joined: Apr 25, 08	Jul 24, 08, 06:53 / #
And that's what I mean. Amen.

Bratwurst BoyThreads: 11 Posts: 14,563 Joined: Apr 2, 07	Edited by: Bratwurst Boy Jul 24, 08, 06:58 / #
Borrka: Würstel if it wasn't for Reagan your Zonnies would be kept behind the wall for the next 1000 years. You are not rebels, are you ? Not if it leads to a radioactive desert afterwards...only stoopid fanatics would go for mass killings for a "cause"! Lukasz: There are funny stats ... In eastern Germany in every 10 Germans one was secret police denunciator. in Poland in every 1000 Poles one was secret police denunciator ... there is difference How would you know? I never heard of a real deep research of the communist past in Poland (to the contrary in the ex-GDR). It always sounds as if some foreign bad commies opressed the "poor, brave" Poles...

BorrkaThreads: 49 Posts: 770 Joined: Apr 25, 08	Edited by: Borrka Jul 24, 08, 07:01 / #
Bratwurst Boy: only stoopid fanatics For sure I'm not one of them so I agree with your point. However it may be funny .. two-headed mutant borrka with patriotic white-red eyes ...

Bratwurst BoyThreads: 11 Posts: 14,563 Joined: Apr 2, 07	Edited by: Bratwurst Boy Jul 24, 08, 07:03 / #
PS: The soviet Empire was fading out already without Reagan's help. And if not the wish for a change had been strong inside the people no outside pressure would/could have changed something one yota. Give the Russians their credits! PPS: But you're right with one thing, Germans are not the rebels! :) (To much fuss!)

BorrkaThreads: 49 Posts: 770 Joined: Apr 25, 08	Edited by: Borrka Jul 24, 08, 07:08 / #
You call it Gnadesnchuss lol. I mean what Reagan has done. And yep. Respect to the Russian dissidents. All 3 of them.

ConstantineKThreads: 35 Posts: 1,949 Joined: May 10, 07	Jul 24, 08, 07:50 / #
Borrka: two-headed mutant borrka with patriotic I hope you will be a two-headed eagle-like Borrka!

LukaszThreads: 73 Posts: 2,396 Joined: Sep 1, 07	Edited by: Lukasz Jul 24, 08, 08:20 / #
Bratwurst Boy: I never heard of a real deep research of the communist past in Poland (to the contrary in the ex-GDR). I have seen reportage in TV with some specialists. I will look for some documentation ... :) It is well known fact that Germans were the biggest denunciators in commie satelite countries. Bratwurst Boy: It always sounds as if some foreign bad commies opressed the "poor, brave" Poles... Without Russians we would never be commie ... look on war in 1920 (Germans blocked transports with weapons from France to Poland ) in Polish - Soviet war. Why we haven't joned Soviet union in 1939 ? because we had border with Soviets and we knew what does communism mean. Bratwurst Boy: PPS: But you're right with one thing, Germans are not the rebels! :) (To much fuss!) So stop talking about bad Nazi regime (choosen in elections) :) Bratwurst Boy: PS: The soviet Empire was fading out already without Reagan's help. And if not the wish for a change had been strong inside the people no outside pressure would/could have changed something one yota. Give the Russians their credits! Military race was perfect idea. Reagan's star wars were awsome. We would live in commie country a little bit longer. .. lets say to 2001. Without preassure on Russians

Dupek StupakThreads: 4 Posts: 81 Joined: Jul 22, 08	Jul 24, 08, 08:29 / #

Bratwurst BoyThreads: 11 Posts: 14,563 Joined: Apr 2, 07	Edited by: Bratwurst Boy Jul 24, 08, 08:51 / #
Lukasz: It is well known fact that Germans were the biggest denunciators in commie satelite countries. As opposed to even the polish opposition leader himself a commie informer??? URL Not to mention of the church??? URL You better not open this special can of worms! (Especially not accusing others of! No german would try to clear up the GDR past with pointing a finger to another country...)

LukaszThreads: 73 Posts: 2,396 Joined: Sep 1, 07	Edited by: Lukasz Jul 24, 08, 09:03 / #
Bratwurst Boy: Not to mention of the church??? Catholic priests were one of the biggest collaborators ... it is true. In 1950's special trained secret police agents were going on theological seminary. Many priests were secret agents just form the begining. I agree horrible. Bratwurst Boy: You better not open this can of worms! we can agree that communism sucked. Going back to Reagan. Germans have different view of him than Poles. When communism colapsed you decided to pay Russians to make their soldiers leave your country. We gave Jeltisn vodka and drunk Russian president agreed to move Russians soldiers from Poland (mentioned by you Walesa have done it). I agree nuclear war would destroy both Germany and Poland. Bratwurst Boy: (Especially not accusing others of! No german would try to clear up the GDR past with pointing a finger to another country...) I wasn't my aim. Germans Poles Czechs Hungarians know how it was ... Communism in Poland was much different form German or Romanian ... not to mention Soviet Union.

Bratwurst BoyThreads: 11 Posts: 14,563 Joined: Apr 2, 07	Edited by: Bratwurst Boy Jul 24, 08, 09:07 / #
Lukasz: we can agree that communism sucked. Absolutely! Lukasz: Going back to Reagan. Germans have different view of him than Poles. Germans too are not only a conform grey mass Lukasz. When you watch the videos about Reagan in Berlin carefully you will see a huge crowd happy having him there, listening to him, applauding him. It was mainly lefties who hated him....the same lefties who sucked up to the communist and symphatized with the eastern german gov (but then they hadn't had to live innit)! How I hate them!!! But you are right we have another a bit softer view on the Russians (Yeltsin and Gorbi) :) PS: Admit! You wanna get me drunk here! :):):)

LukaszThreads: 73 Posts: 2,396 Joined: Sep 1, 07	Edited by: Lukasz Jul 24, 08, 09:26 / #
Bratwurst Boy: But you are right we have another a bit softer view on the Russians (Yeltsin and Gorbi) :) Poles don't have bad view on Yeltsin and Gorbi. They weren't so bad. ;) Bratwurst Boy: PS: Admit! You wanna get me drunk here! :):):) Like Yeltsin :) Going back to being rebel. Poles making strikes/riots/protests all the time. Military fighting against Russians and commies to 1950s. Had some achievements. Polish land haven't been fully confiscated by government. We had some western press, even Coca Cola lol. Opositionists form other commie countries were traveling to poland to get informations form all over the world. Look what happend with confiscated by government land. Western Germans came to Eastern and bought it for small cash. In other countries it was very similar ... or first elites bought it for small money or foreigners. Rebel Poles owe it to this day or sold it for market price. We have seen what have happend with land confiscated by commies ... later it was robbed ... so being rebel Pole wasn't that bad. :) lol :)

Bratwurst BoyThreads: 11 Posts: 14,563 Joined: Apr 2, 07	Edited by: Bratwurst Boy Jul 24, 08, 09:46 / #
Lukasz: Polish land haven't been fully confiscated by government. We had some western press, even Coca Cola lol. Opositionists form other commie countries were traveling to poland to get informations form all over the world. I agree, the situations were different to the GDR. For the eastern Germans the outlet was Western Germany. They had contact, all news through western german TV and Radio...most had family there, got holiday visits and their western consum stuff that way, the older, retired people could travel freely and so on.

LukaszThreads: 73 Posts: 2,396 Joined: Sep 1, 07	Edited by: Lukasz Jul 24, 08, 10:03 / #
Bratwurst Boy: For the eastern Germans the outlet was Western Germany. They had contact, television, all news...most had family, holiday visits and got their western consum stuff that way, the older, retired people could travel freely and so on. Bratwurst ;) ... anyway communism was sick system. and in my opinion Reagan has made good job you should appreciate him more than Gorbi ...

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