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miranda   Jul 31, 08, 15:14 /  #
Franek:
If you request it, then I will show it.

well, PM me the link then, if that is OK.

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  Jul 31, 08, 15:19 /  #
Dice:
Good thing you're not an American and you can't vote here.


Why? This opinion is based on some arguments or you just find my last comment apply also to you?
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  Jul 31, 08, 15:22 /  #
Geeze Miranda.. I never realized how stupid I was..Let me try to navigate this site a little more.. I never tried it.. Can I post pictures in private messages?
miranda   Jul 31, 08, 15:24 /  #
Franek:
Can I post pictures in private messages?

I think so, you copy is and paste it. I am not sure how big of a file you can include though.
Try it. If it doesn't work, let me know.
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  Jul 31, 08, 15:35 /  #
What the hell Miranda. I am going to go for broke. For what I will show and tell you is well documented.

Below is a picture showing the Army protecting the firemen as the attempted to control the blaze.. They were fired on from windows, killing a few firemen.

Answer this,because I am not allowed to post back to back
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  Jul 31, 08, 15:38 /  #
Geezus mate. If thats the US army in a protective role with their guns slung casually over their sholders then no wonder they get their arses whomped so much.

Was compensation paid to the families of dead firemen they were suposed to be protecting?
miranda   Jul 31, 08, 15:39 /  #
Franek:
Answer this,because I am not allowed to post back to back

OK. Is there a link to what happened. I was interested in that. I quickly googled it but I am not sure what I am looking for.
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  Jul 31, 08, 15:49 /  #
Funkie boy! Behave yourself, and just watch..HUSH.
The above picture is taken on the corner of Gay st and Orleans. During the height of the riot.. They were screaming,, KILL WHITEY.. The pulled people out of their cars and beat the hell out of them.. That included women and children..I will give you all of the url.s later.. I was a Police In Baltimore at that time.. So I know what I am talking about
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  Jul 31, 08, 15:53 /  #
Dont be cheeky Franek you geriatric old goat rider

What has the riots of the 60s got to do with not liking Obama?
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  Jul 31, 08, 16:02 /  #
Shut up Funkie Boy.. Im going to get Stupek Dupek after you.

This is Chicago.. I have many more from other cities.. But I will send you URL'S by private mail..

Im going out and buy some insecticide and spray Funkie Boy.
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  Jul 31, 08, 16:34 /  #
Youre repeating yourself you incontinent old dribble and before you dig yourself in too deep, Stupid Dupek is a little girl and a silly one at that. Much too young for an old droopy like you

Now whilst the pictures you are posting offer an insightful view into American civil unrest you havent been able to explain how watching you cities go up in flames is cause for not liking Obama.

Franek:
Why do Poles and other Europeans prefer Obama?

Maybe it is because they have not watched their cities go up in flames..


As I mentioned in an earlier post, Americans have problems learning from their mistakes. The lessons you should have learnt after those riots have still to be learnt. But this time it's not WHITEY (American establishment) they want to kill is AMERICANS.

And it's not just a small minority in your own country that want to drag you out of your car and beat you to death, its a significant % of the world.

Things aint looking good. America needs a make-over quick sharp ina hurry. CocaCola and MickyDs just dont cut it anymore. And damn muthafuka, they be burnin yo flag! Get with the programme old man its time for change Or more to the point, it's time for the appearance of change so maybe, just may be, you wont have to watch your cities burn again

Obama is your best bet. Deal with gramps
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  Aug 1, 08, 04:14 /  #
Is this a discussion forum, or a place for 12 year olds to exchange insults? Why is it that people here would rather write insults than write an intelligent, well written response to a valid question? I have asked the question below twice and instead of responding to it, immature people write immature things. I won't waste my time responding to these boring people. If there is a mature person here, who would like to discuss on an intelligent basis, I would be grateful for an answer to the important question below:


Gene:
Why doesn't a Bush/McCain supporter respond to the fact that, over the past 25 years, the republicans have driven the debt to over $9 Trillion? While Republicans like to acuse Democrats of Tax and Spend, this chart shows clearly that most of the national debt is coming on Republican watch:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_public_debt

Bush has been by far the worst and most of this is due to the Iraq war. McCain wants to continue the US presence in Iraq on an ongoing basis. Obama wants to withdraw, which will save the US billions of dollars. Republicans are responsible for the terrible state of the US economy. So why would ANYONE want to continue this trend?

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Edited by: BubbaWoo   Aug 1, 08, 04:20 /  #
The latter. Fuk off

But on a more serious note, exactly, why anyone would want to continue this and other trends America has fallen into is beyond comprehension.

So rather than going through the frustrations of trying to rationalise with these irational people its much more fun to poke fun at them, and perhaps even throw in an insult or two for good measure.

Afterall, even when presented with overwhelmingly rational and sound arguments, half the people on this board choose to deny or ignore whats staring them in the face. As I think you are finding
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  Aug 1, 08, 05:09 /  #
Crow,

The Republicans spent a ton of money in a bad way. But do not be fooled about this very fact: Obama and his crew will raise spending (see Tom Colburn's wonderful tactics that block Reed's excessive pork ladened legislation or Paul Ryan;s innovative fiscal ideas) , tax small businesses to death, continue to distort the tax code, and continue the use of race as a political tactic in order to get elected.

Government and taxes will grow under the Dems. The goal is to put social and fiscal conservatives in office and to run out the pretenders (current Republican) and the would be destroyers (Pelosi, Reed, Obama) of our society.

I am in no way happy with McCain but of the two the choice cannot be easier.
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Edited by: Gene   Aug 1, 08, 13:03 /  #
Babinich:
Obama and his crew will raise spending (see Tom Colburn's wonderful tactics that block Reed's excessive pork ladened legislation or Paul Ryan;s innovative fiscal ideas) , tax small businesses to death, continue to distort the tax code, and continue the use of race as a political tactic in order to get elected.Government and taxes will grow under the Dems. The goal is to put social and fiscal conservatives in office and to run out the pretenders (current Republican) and the would be destroyers (Pelosi, Reed, Obama) of our society


How the hell can you say that Republicans = fiscal conservatives????? Do you have any clue what you are talking about? I have proven to you that three past and current Republican administrations are destroying the USA by continually pushing up the national debt. The only administration NOT to raise the national debt was democratic.

So, what you are saying is "It is better to borrow and spend, then to tax and spend"? Because, this is what 3 Republican administrations have done and what McCain is promising to do.
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  Aug 1, 08, 15:57 /  #
To Franek:

Have we ever asked WHY there were riots?
Wahldo   Aug 1, 08, 16:09 /  #
Gene:
Is this a discussion forum, or a place for 12 year olds to exchange insults?


Well.. 60% of PF seems to be British, so I suppose that answers your question.
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  Aug 1, 08, 16:12 /  #
yeah. and the other 40% are american poles which explains the 12 year old mentality
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  Aug 1, 08, 20:37 /  #
Two points:

First off I erred when I mentioned Reed. I intended Harry Reid the Senator from Nevada.

Second,
Gene:
How the hell can you say that Republicans = fiscal conservatives?????


Re-read the post; I did not say that every person running as a Republican is fiscally conservative.
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  Aug 1, 08, 22:08 /  #
Gene:
How the hell can you say that Republicans = fiscal conservatives????? Do you have any clue what you are talking about? I have proven to you that three past and current Republican administrations are destroying the USA by continually pushing up the national debt. The only administration NOT to raise the national debt was democratic.

He he! I hear that the total national debt (not just the ridiculous current budget deficit) is in the trillions. Wonder how long that will take to get paid off?
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Edited by: Gene   Aug 3, 08, 10:48 /  #
shopgirl:
He he! I hear that the total national debt (not just the ridiculous current budget deficit) is in the trillions. Wonder how long that will take to get paid off?


The national debt exceeds $9.5 Trillion!!! Most of it run up by Republicans. What a joke. Republicans call themselves 'fiscal conservatives', then they go out and borrow trillions of dollars. In the meantime, the only president to actually bring down the national debt was a democrat. The WORST president in terms of debt is GW Bush who has actually managed to double the US debt in 8 years. The huge national debt is the root cause of the economic crisis. Federal Bank President Bernanke (who was appointed by Bush) is predicting a fiscal crisis if the National Debt continues at this rate. Now who in their right mind would vote for yet another republican??

Click on the graph below to see it more clearly:

National Debt
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  Aug 3, 08, 10:59 /  #
WHY DO POLES AND OTHER EUROPEANS PREFER OBAMA?

Because he's black..?
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Edited by: Eurola   Aug 3, 08, 12:43 /  #
WHY DO POLES AND OTHER EUROPEANS PREFER OBAMA?


I don't, and I'm in standby mode for the time being.
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Edited by: Gene   Aug 3, 08, 14:53 /  #
Babinich:
e-read the post; I did not say that every person running as a Republican is fiscally conservative.


Republicans are as fiscally conservative as Paris Hilton. They put everything on credit and let someone else pay their bills. That someone else, by the way, is your children.
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Edited by: Krazy Kaju   Aug 3, 08, 19:49 /  #
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Obama

What are your thoughts and views on Obama?

Will you vote for him if you're a citizen? If you're not a citizen would you vote for him? Would you vote for someone else, like McCain, Barr (Libertarian Party), Nader (Independent), Baldwin (Constitution Party), or whoever the Green Party nominee will be?

Here are my thoughts: Obama will suck.

First, he wants to put higher tariffs on foreign alternative fuels, even though he wants to wean us off oil. Wouldn't it make more sense to lower tariffs so cheaper (and more efficient) ethanol and other biofuels can come from Brazil and elsewhere?

Secondly, he is refusing to let us drill in anwar and offshore. Drilling in these places would make America more energy self-sufficient, AND it would be both an immediate solution and a long term solution. By drilling in more places speculators will recognize oil won't go up as much as they thought previously - and thus prices will fall in the short term. Likewise, oil drillers will drill more because they'll recognize that once offshore and ANWR drilling commence oil prices will fall. The counterargument to this is that oil companies already have a lot of leased land and they're not drilling in it. The obvious answer to this is that a lot of that oil is "uneconomic" - i.e. it costs more to drill in some of these areas than the oil itself (i.e. costs $150/barrel to drill when oil prices are $140/barrel). By opening up more economic drilling areas - like offshore and in anwar, we'll be able to drive the price of oil down.

Thirdly, Obama wants a windfall profits tax on oil companies (a tax where a certain percentage of your profits are taxed away after corporate and income taxes). This is ridiculous. When companies make huge profits, that's a signal to these companies to expand supply. That's exactly what oil companies have been doing. With more profits, they've starting building and renovating oil refineries in America - the first time in three decades. By taxing these profits away, oil companies won't have as much money to update and repair their equipment or to search for new oil reserves. This will mean even higher prices at the pump.

Fourth, Obama wants a progressive capital gains and corporate tax. This is ridiculous. Capital gains and corporate taxes are the most distortion creating taxes. They prevent individuals and businesses from investing and helping the economy to grow at a higher rate.

Fifth, Obama wants to repeal the Bush tax cuts. Quite frankly, that's just retarded. Anyone with a decent amount of intelligence knows that in the poor economic situation we're in now, we need to stimulate the economy by lowering taxes. By raising taxes instead, you'll be destroying

Sixth, Obama wants to renegotiate NAFTA and other free trade agreements. Anyone remember how the Hawley-Smoot Tariff threw the entire world into the Great Depression by choking off trade? Renegotiating our free trade agreements might have a similar effect. Exports have been the only part of our economy that has actually grown. Without exports we'd officially have negative economic growth and therefore be in a recession. We need to increase the scope of our free trade agreements to promote exports, not reduce our free trade agreements.

Seventh, Obama is against school choice. I firmly believe that parents should be given vouchers. If they want to go to a public school fine, but if they want to go to a private school, they should have the right to do so. Being against vouchers is one of the worst positions you can take. Whereas rich families can pay on their own to send their children to private school, poor inner-city families cannot. This forces inner-city families to send their children to crumbling public schools. By giving them school vouchers, these families could opt out of public schools and send their children to much better private schools. Studies have shown that inner city students can do much better in private schools than in public schools. This is why it's essential to allow poorer families the choice between private and public schooling.

Eighth, Obama is a big spender. Recently, he voted to pass a $300 billion farm subsidy - $300 billion dollars that went to rich farmers and even richer agribusinesses. That money could've been used better by changing our energy policy or cutting taxes or giving school vouchers.

Lastly, Obama's health care plan sucks. He wants to force businesses to pay more for your health insurance. This will simply drive jobs away from America into foreign countries like Mexico and China where employers don't have to pay for these ridiculous demands.

Personally, I don't like anyone whose running right now. I liked Ron Paul and I wish the Republican Party would return to its more libertarian roots. Two candidates are trying to ride off of the Ron Paul tidal wave - Bob Barr (LP) and Chuck Baldwin (CP). Both, ultimately, are closet big government statists, though they're far better than both Obama and McCain. As for just Obama vs. McCain, I'd still choose McCain. He at least supports vouchers and has a better tax, education, and energy policy.
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  Aug 3, 08, 20:31 /  #
Krazy Kaju:
Obama will suck.

Krazy Kaju:
I'd still choose McCain.

You answered my reply :)
Wahldo   Aug 3, 08, 20:42 /  #
Krazy Kaju:
They prevent individuals and businesses from investing and helping the economy to grow at a higher rate.


The problem is they're not investing in the States anymore.. they're investing in China, India.
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  Aug 3, 08, 23:21 /  #
Why aren't they investing in the states? Because high taxes and ridiculous regulation prevent them from doing so.
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  Aug 4, 08, 10:34 /  #
Krazy Kaju.;
I agree with about all that you wrote. Since you last wrote the post, Obama has changed his mind.. (AGAIN).. Over the weekend he is now for new drilling. This guy is a bad joke.
As for our choice! They both stink.. But I have to go for McCain.

Also our wonderful Congress just took a five week vacation..Their approval rating is down to nine percent now..
So here we are.. No Congress to settle the energy crises.

But I'll bet that they will vote for another salary increase.

Damn! we Americans are sure getting shafted
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  Aug 4, 08, 10:52 /  #
Franek:

But I have to go for McCain


Why? He wants to throw the US in another war on the behalf of Israel!

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