What are Polish-Serbian relations like?

Brian Crowley MEP: With all respect, Mr. President, you will not tell me what the Irish think. As an Irishman, I know it best.

President Vaclav Klaus: I do not speculate about what the Irish think. I state the only measurable data which were proved by the referendum.

In our country the Lisbon Treaty is not ratified because our parliament has not decided on it yet. It is not the President’s fault. Let’s wait for the decision of both Chambers of the Parliament, that is the current phase of the ratification process in which the President plays no role whatsoever. I cannot sign the Treaty today, it is not on my table, it is up to the parliament to decide about it now. My role will come after the eventual approval of the Treaty in the Parliament...

Hans-Gert Pöttering: … In the conclusion - and I want to leave this room in good terms - I would like to say that it is more than unacceptable, if you compare us, compare us with the Soviet Union. We are all deeply rooted in our countries and our constituencies. We are concerned about freedom and reconciliation in Europe, we are good willing, not naive.

President Vaclav Klaus: I did not compare you with the Soviet Union, I did not mention the word “Soviet Union”. I only said that I have not experienced such an atmosphere, such style of debate in the past 19 years in the Czech Republic, really.

rockThreads: 6 Posts: 1,493 Joined: Jun 13, 08	Apr 5, 09, 00:24 / #
Crow: distance to EU and NATO Eurabia isn`t acceptable to Serbians. Serbs has different ideas for future of their children Don't scare. If a referandum takes place in Turkey, majority of the people will probably vote against EU. southern: Tell me one nation which is friendly to Turks.(except the Albos). Bosnians and some of the Hungarians. If European nations don't want to behave friendly, it is their problem. This means, they want to go on wars for religion. We are a strong nation and trust ourselves. We try to be friendly to Europeans but if they respond negatively we behave the same.

Bratwurst BoyThreads: 11 Posts: 14,563 Joined: Apr 2, 07	Edited by: Bratwurst Boy Apr 5, 09, 00:34 / #
rock: This means, they want to go on wars for religion. I very much doubt that! No European will go to war over christianity anymore...only muslim nutters from your corner in the search of their 77 virgins (because they are otherwise to stupid and to ugly to get the attention of a nice real girl) can be arsed to take that seriously!

rockThreads: 6 Posts: 1,493 Joined: Jun 13, 08	Apr 5, 09, 00:57 / #
Bratwurst Boy: I very much doubt that! How can you doubt about it. Are you blind ? What's going on in Iraq and Afhganistan, What happened in Bosnia. Bratwurst Boy: only muslim nutters from your corner in the search of their 77 virgins (because they are otherwise to stupid and to ugly to get the attention of a nice real girl) can be arsed to take that seriously! Your explanation is very funny. You make me laugh a lot. Thank you :)

CenowskiThreads: - Posts: 122 Joined: Mar 30, 09	Apr 5, 09, 10:12 / #
Bratwurst Boy: No European will go to war over christianity anymore no western european i think is more wise to say..... western europe is more godless now than ever, no body cares...... which is part of there downfall.....

Bratwurst BoyThreads: 11 Posts: 14,563 Joined: Apr 2, 07	Edited by: Bratwurst Boy Apr 5, 09, 18:06 / #
Cenowski: no western european i think is more wise to say..... western europe is more godless now than ever, no body cares...... which is part of there downfall..... Wich other European do you mean? And yes, most of the developed world is leaving these fairytales behind. "Downfall"...as if religious wars are such a nice things...the always were the most cruel and bloody of all battles, no thank you! You want to batter each others heads in about "my god is bigger than your god"...please do so but leave the sane of us alone.

CrowThreads: 367 Posts: 7,316 Joined: Feb 14, 07 [Suspended]	Edited by: Crow Apr 9, 09, 01:33 / #
SZCZERBIEC - "Idzie NaRa" am i wrong or this is realy double-headed Serbian eagle on the SZCZERBIEC sword? Well, SZCZERBIEC is nothing but SERBIEC (SERBIAN) to me. After all, for sure it refering on once universal name of all Slavs- SARMATIAN name. Name of Serbians, as linguistic science confirms, simple stays closely correlated to primordial designation of our Slavic kind.

SeanusThreads: 22 Posts: 30,158 Joined: Dec 25, 07	Apr 9, 09, 01:37 / #
It's good that you catch symbols, Crow. They are more than just coincidental sometimes.

CrowThreads: 367 Posts: 7,316 Joined: Feb 14, 07 [Suspended]	Apr 9, 09, 01:44 / #
Seanus: It's good that you catch symbols, Crow. They are more than just coincidental sometimes. there is no any doubt. Poles and Serbians are same people falsely divided, forced to stay divided for good of those who imposed slavery on our children. But, SARMATIA would live! From Baltic to Balkan, Sarmatia would blow-up in face of our foes! Down with Islam! Down with NATO!

SeanusThreads: 22 Posts: 30,158 Joined: Dec 25, 07	Apr 9, 09, 01:46 / #
This is what many people want, Crow. The problem is that the messengers who advocate change are often gagged to silence. I couldn't imagine Serbia joining the EU after the bad deeds done to them by certain EU members.

CrowThreads: 367 Posts: 7,316 Joined: Feb 14, 07 [Suspended]	Edited by: Crow Apr 9, 09, 01:59 / #
Seanus: I couldn't imagine Serbia joining the EU after the bad deeds done to them by certain EU members well, even if become member of EU, Serbia resisted and defended Yugoslav principle and favourized it above EU Borg`s principle. History would remember that before were incorporated in EU Serbians were conquored.... but, only temporarely Attack on Serbians was fatal mistake of old/new `drang nach osten`... That`s why Czechs already scream DEATH TO EU! Nothing couldn`t awake Czechs such as Serbs could reached their hearts. Nothing can force Poles and Russians to work togather, such as Serbians could force them. Nothing can help to Ukraine, nothing but Serbians. Nothing can make Slovaks to be proud, nothing but Serbs. just spot this conversation... December 06, 2008 ... Czechs knows... Brian Crowley MEP: With all respect, Mr. President, you will not tell me what the Irish think. As an Irishman, I know it best. President Vaclav Klaus: I do not speculate about what the Irish think. I state the only measurable data which were proved by the referendum. In our country the Lisbon Treaty is not ratified because our parliament has not decided on it yet. It is not the President’s fault. Let’s wait for the decision of both Chambers of the Parliament, that is the current phase of the ratification process in which the President plays no role whatsoever. I cannot sign the Treaty today, it is not on my table, it is up to the parliament to decide about it now. My role will come after the eventual approval of the Treaty in the Parliament... Hans-Gert Pöttering: … In the conclusion - and I want to leave this room in good terms - I would like to say that it is more than unacceptable, if you compare us, compare us with the Soviet Union. We are all deeply rooted in our countries and our constituencies. We are concerned about freedom and reconciliation in Europe, we are good willing, not naive. President Vaclav Klaus: I did not compare you with the Soviet Union, I did not mention the word “Soviet Union”. I only said that I have not experienced such an atmosphere, such style of debate in the past 19 years in the Czech Republic, really. Source: Guess Who’s Coming To Dinner: Václav Klaus, Cohn-Bendit, Pöttering, Brian Crowley http://www.indymedia.ie/article/90105 open attack on Serbians from EU/NATO in alliance with mujaheedines and Islamic league was mistake, i repeating- great mistake of new/old `drang nach osten`. Same as Hitler once, EU underestimated Serbians, underestimated Slavic respond singing Vasilija Radojcic - Na Uskrs sam se rodila (I was born on Easter), on the base of old Serbian epic poetry...

SashaThreads: 2 Posts: 1,597 Joined: Apr 19, 08	Edited by: Sasha Apr 9, 09, 08:39 / #
Seanus: Drang nach Osten sounds like a Norwegian footballer player, Crow I like your sense of humour. :) Ole Gunner Solskjaer. Seanus: What does it mean? It's like "spreading to the East" literally.

polishcanuckThreads: 10 Posts: 583 Joined: Feb 11, 07	Apr 9, 09, 18:18 / #
Hey crow, here is a story for you: The Kosovo Liberation Army (KLA) abducted civilians in Kosovo who were then mistreated and in some cases killed, a BBC investigation has found. Link: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/7990761.stm Not the innocent freedom fighter they were made out to be...

osiolThreads: 59 Posts: 4,714 Joined: Jul 25, 07	Apr 9, 09, 18:29 / #
Seanus: What's wrong with a little spreading to the East? You're in Poland and asking what's wrong with a bit of German eastwards movement? You might be able to find someone somewhere not too far away who may have the answer for you.

osiolThreads: 59 Posts: 4,714 Joined: Jul 25, 07	Apr 9, 09, 18:33 / #
That's it, Sheepie. We're not talking about middle age spread. More like middle Europe spread.

SeanusThreads: 22 Posts: 30,158 Joined: Dec 25, 07	Apr 9, 09, 02:03 / #
Drang nach Osten sounds like a Norwegian footballer player, Crow ;) ;) What does it mean? I'm not familiar with it.

CrowThreads: 367 Posts: 7,316 Joined: Feb 14, 07 [Suspended]	Edited by: Crow Apr 9, 09, 02:08 / #
Seanus: Drang nach Osten sounds like a Norwegian footballer player, Crow ;) ;) What does it mean? I'm not familiar with it. Drang nach Osten? oh, you knows, everybody knows that Its old German effort, their old habit which would kill them one day

SeanusThreads: 22 Posts: 30,158 Joined: Dec 25, 07	Apr 9, 09, 02:10 / #
Well, run out and find me 'everybody', maybe he can explain it to me ;)

CrowThreads: 367 Posts: 7,316 Joined: Feb 14, 07 [Suspended]	Apr 9, 09, 02:11 / #
Seanus: Well, run out and find me 'everybody', maybe he can explain it to me ;) ;)

SeanusThreads: 22 Posts: 30,158 Joined: Dec 25, 07	Apr 9, 09, 02:13 / #
I think I know what you mean from your discussions with BB. I can't wait for my Balkans trip in 3 weeks.

SeanusThreads: 22 Posts: 30,158 Joined: Dec 25, 07	Apr 9, 09, 12:46 / #
Wasn't there a player called Oster? Maybe he wasn't Norwegian :) What's wrong with a little spreading to the East?

SeanusThreads: 22 Posts: 30,158 Joined: Dec 25, 07	Apr 9, 09, 18:31 / #
Aha, ok, I get it now. Thanks Osioł

CrowThreads: 367 Posts: 7,316 Joined: Feb 14, 07 [Suspended]	Apr 9, 09, 21:29 / #
polishcanuck: Hey crow, here is a story thanks polishcanuck: Not the innocent freedom fighter they were made out to be... true. Albanian fighters were/are real terrorists Seanus: What's wrong with a little spreading to the East? What's wrong with a little spreading to the West?

CrowThreads: 367 Posts: 7,316 Joined: Feb 14, 07 [Suspended]	Edited by: Crow Apr 23, 09, 23:04 / #
modern day reality on Serbian Kosovo... watch how Serbian offering d**k to American (NATO) occupator... Poljaci listen to me... don`t follow NATO down there on Kosovo, don`t humiliate yourself. Kosovo would be grawe for NATO, it would be opened hunt season and beasts shall perish. Poles, brotherly Slavs, don`t be puppet of false West... Kosovo is south of Sarmatia, ancient land of Polish same way as of Serbian warlords... in some other reality, if era of slavery did not occur Poles and Serbs would be one and same nation, strong and free ethos, from Balkan to Baltic. Think Poles and be adwise.... Gate Keeper shall arise, Racowie won`t died in silence,... Poles, watch and wait for the moment that will come for sure and at least in crucial momentum support us. Never again house of slavery for Sarmatians! Down with NATO and EU! Down with Islam! Freedom to Sarmatia! Chist our Lord save us all!

SeanusThreads: 22 Posts: 30,158 Joined: Dec 25, 07	Apr 23, 09, 23:31 / #
Caught on camera at last, Crow!! ;) ;)

CrowThreads: 367 Posts: 7,316 Joined: Feb 14, 07 [Suspended]	Apr 24, 09, 00:39 / #
Seanus: Caught on camera at last, Crow!! ;) ;) well, its not me but it easely could be myself beating Turks, Amers, Arabs, Brits, Albos, Franch, Chechens, Afgans on Kosovo is all the same to Serbs... deep grawe for all of them who had come to consume and polute Slavija ;)

PerszingPruszekThreads: 2 Posts: 24 Joined: Apr 23, 09	Apr 24, 09, 05:39 / #
We never had a relation with Serbia. We should though. They do need help with the kosovo conflict and all. and after all they are slavs... jedna slowianska krew. (by the way did you know that serbs came from Poland. The first serbs came from Poland)

southernThreads: 116 Posts: 10,955 Joined: May 17, 07	Apr 24, 09, 08:25 / #
Crow: beating Turks, Amers, Arabs, Brits, Albos, Franch, Chechens, Afgans on Kosovo is all the same to Serbs... deep grawe for all of them who had come to consume and polute Slavija Aren't these Serbs lovely?

Mr GrunwaldThreads: 34 Posts: 2,358 Joined: Dec 16, 08	Apr 25, 09, 15:33 / #
Seanus: Drang nach Osten sounds like a Norwegian footballer player (=/&"¤)=("=¤") IT'S MORE A DUTCH FOOTBALL PLAYER! =/("¤?/)¤"("=¤

southernThreads: 116 Posts: 10,955 Joined: May 17, 07	Apr 25, 09, 15:35 / #
PerszingPruszek: The first serbs came from Poland) Very likely.I have noticed interesting similarities in mentality like the fighting spirit.

McCoyThreads: 46 Posts: 1,756 Joined: Jul 3, 08	Apr 25, 09, 15:40 / #
PerszingPruszek: (by the way did you know that serbs came from Poland. The first serbs came from Poland) thats what ive read. simillar story about croats: According to the most widely accepted[25] Slavic theory of the 7th century, the Croatian tribe moved from the area north of the Carpathians and east of the river Vistula (referred to as White Croatia) and migrated into the western Dinaric Alps. and serbs: Byzantine sources report that part of the White Serbs, led by the Unknown Archont, migrated southwards from their Slavic homeland of White Serbia (Poland) in the late sixth century and eventually overwhelmed the Serbian lands that now make up Serbia, Macedonia, Montenegro, Bosnia, Herzegovina and Dalmatia quotes from wiki