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Russians prevented joint Israeli-USA/NATO chemical attack on Iran?!?


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SeanusThreads: 22
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Russia needs to put pressure on the US and the UK to cut back on their divisive rhetoric. They are indirectly attacking Iran by seeking to highlight divisions in their society. They did this in Iraq, dividing the tribal factions by pitting them against each other. Will America fund terrorism again in groups like Jundullah who attack Iranian police? The Iranian police are really needed now and America/Britain will seek to stretch them.

One thing I'm pretty sure of is that certain 'delegations' were sent to Iran earlier to tell them what to do. Moussavi is carrying out an agenda, make no doubt about it. They know most Westerners would think that to be rubbish as they are just contesting sth, hence natural, but creating a fractious rift was done with some outside help.
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Absolutely Sean.
It wouldn't be nice to offend Iran after their peaceful treatment of their citizens who had the audacity to question the election results.
Of course Ahmadinejad won. The Supreme Leader said so. In some places, more hand written ballots for him were counted than there were citizens, all before the polls even closed.
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...and the OT article was no doubt found on the same page as an article about the space aliens that are "really" running the world these days.

Apparently by hairball's definition of "nuclear weapon" (perhaps Crow too?) he has suffered a nuclear attack every time he gets an X ray or someone with a nice watch walks by.

The proliferation. It's just horrible!

Thank goodness for experts like him who know all about what happens in countries they've never been to. Those guys who have been there must just be making everything up, after all.

For the record, though, I fail to see why a man with multiple holes punched through him and his vehicle would worry about whether after he dies one could find the bullets with a geiger counter or not. It's like arguing over whether the lead casing of a hand grenade is harmful when ingested by the enemy...sure it probably is, but it kind of misses the point.



John P.
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http://video.google.co.uk/videosearch?hl=en&q=Milosevic&um=1&ie=UTF-8& sa=N&tab=wv#q=Iran&hl=en&emb=0, this is well worth watching.

I pray that America doesn't invade Iran. Iraq and Iran have a large percentage of the world's oil. World domination will come about if they go into Iran. What's stopping them? They botched up Iraq and everybody could see through the decision to invade Iraq.

WMD's? LOL, the biggest lie out there.
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Sean, as mentioned in another post,
All this bluster about an Iran invasion is silly. YOU are the only people talking about it. America needs to have a plan for war with Iran, (not planning is simply stupid...) but that is not the same thing as simply invading. World domination? you've been hanging out with Crow too much. Russia already owns Irans oil, and was in process to have Iraq's too, until those pesty Americans kicked Saddam out. Iraq is a horrible failure(?) only if you ask the guys who used to be in charge, and didn't get elected this last time.
As for Iraq, all due respect sir, you don't have any idea what you're talking about. You've obviously not seen any honest news in oh, 5 years. The Democrats screamed failure as loud as they could (btw they own majority of US media also) so they would win the election. Nothing more complicated than that. Which is why Americans, thinking they are free, sleep while the government in less than a year simply takes over the largest private industry in the country, tells another who it can hire and where they will work, is in process of taking over medicine from the hands of the doctors, and is trying to tell them only it [the government]should be armed, and when fraud is investigated, oddly the President fires the IG who asked for the investigation. But hey, he's the first "African American" President. He is no such thing. He is not the descendant of hardship and slavery(...his black ancestors aren't American)...that others ancestors lived under.
Amazing what a good speaking voice will do when people believe everything they see on camera if its presented right. None of this happened under Bush, oddly, but the perception of lost civil rights was planted and accepted as a fact. Politics has no stronger weapon than a friendly media, and this time they were bought and paid for.

Of course, nothing new in the world it would seem.
The attack of the OT? a load of crap spoon fed to whoever they could get to believe it.

John P.
SeanusThreads: 22
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John, I appreciate your commentary as always but I only made one comment on Iraq, that it was 'botched up'. I've seen the death figures and they tell a horrid story. If America took him out for being a brutal and dangerous dictator, they are even more guilty for letting him kill early days.

This is about Iran though. John, I don't think you have access to the range of media that I have, am I right? Aren't you somewhat isolated out there? Obama is not being friendly towards Ahmedinejad. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/8122263.stm, this is the latest attempt to find a pretext to intervene and stop him. Mousavi knows the system in Iran and could have requested increased safeguards. Sb high up in the world had a word in his ear to contest and rock the boat. John, it's all a big set-up.
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Seanus:
WMD's? LOL, the biggest lie out there.

Yeah it was, told by the Americans... and the British.. and the Canadians... and the Russians.
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Why is it all those countries have problems with Iran?
SeanusThreads: 22
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Joined: Dec 25, 07 		Edited by: Seanus   Jun 27, 09, 19:34 /  #
I've said it before, Scrappy, they hashed it together haphazardly. Read Bill Woodward's book on it, people were instructed to find this link.

The lightbulb never went on. Well, maybe we could ask Scott Ritter with 7 years exp as what? Bing, as Chief Weapons Inspector. They never did to my knowledge! They relied on an unfinished thesis of some LA college student.

Tony Blair was another idiot who partook in lies. He needs to be hung by his balls. He is profitting from questions in a big way, snake!

PP, don't get me started. Let's start with the oil potential and media spin. All is mentioned in that film I posted, 79 mins worth.
PlasticPoleThreads: 10
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WOW. Somebody defending the Irani regime.

Seanus, you are prolly the only person in the entire world defending them.
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Seanus:
Tony Blair was another idiot who partook in lies

He was the one being lied to. Strange how you people villify that man so much. I don't think Nixon put up with as much hate and he truly was a ba.stard. Look, Iraq was bad but you'd have to share the blame.. not hold only those accountable you have a personal dislike for. That's hardly intellectual.
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Well, drum up enough support for a hatred campaign and you may well reach your objective of toppeling them.

What defending am I doing, PP? I'm not their biggest fan at all, just that I don't believe in opportunistic attacks on them. What America is doing is chamstwo.
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An interesting follow up on a related subject:

UnmarkedIsraeliJets

ISRAELI NUCLEAR STRIKE ON IRAN TURNED BACK
By
William Thomas

A strike by nuclear-armed Israeli Air Force fighter-bombers bound for targets in Iran was turned back after being intercepted by U.S. fighters over Iraq, this reporter has learned.

Two sources have independently confirmed the encounter, which took place on January 7, 2007. Though the first informant offered few details beyond an initial tip, a second source long-known by this reporter to have well-placed U.S. and “non-U.S.” military and government contacts provided specific information regarding the raid, which was aimed at the radical religious ayatollahs holding ultimate power in Iran.

Israeli nuclear strikes are not unprecedented. Soon after Desert Storm, U.S. Navy pilots told this reporter in Kuwait how in late 1990 Israel made good on its pledge to respond in kind to WMD attacks by launching nuclear-armed aircraft against Baghdad following a lethal assault on Tel Aviv by Scud missiles tipped with chemical warheads. That air strike was called off when the Americans refused to provide the vital IFF codes needed to fly through U.S.-controlled airspace.

Read the rest:

http://www.willthomasonline.net/willthomasonline/Israeli_Nuclear_Strik e_Turned_B.html
SeanusThreads: 22
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Well done America! Panetta has also recently told them to hold off an attack. I think Obama would be peeved if Netanyahu endorsed an attack.
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hairball:
And in Afghanistan and Iraq twice, and of course Iran is next in line. It's strange how they only attack weaker countries who don't have the capability to respond with equal force.

That is the conquest strategy for today, there are superwoers and they all gotta get as most countries as possible who can't do anything to protect themselfs. Later if somebody goes nutts one or 2 superpowers will try to dominate the other.

Easily spoken thoose who don't have nuclear power or support of a nuclear power state is in trouble. That's what Iran has found out but their research are now known.
SeanusThreads: 22
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Russia won't stand by on that one and that's one of the reasons that the US stalled. There are other reasons but Putin stood up to Bush.
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