Should Poland continue to support Bush's war on terror?

Quoting: Zgubiony

Iran should be Europes problem as they're their neighbors. If it wasn't the US that Terrorists are after then it would eventually be non-muslim Europeans. These people hate everyone. I say Europe should fend for it's self. Ditch the Anti missile shields and everything. Europe should look after their own neighbors.

Quoting: celinski

Poland is closer to the USA than you think. Who do you think was there to help USA become free. Yes, Poland. Poland and USA have fought for freedom and personally I feel USA owes Poland big time for not being there for her in WW2. I also feel USA knows this.

hairballThreads: 37 Posts: 787 Joined: Dec 16, 07	Dec 17, 07, 09:22 / #
In 2003 the USA invaded Iraq in response to George Bush's "war on terror" saying Saddam was an evil man who "terrorized" his own people. We were all told about his "nuclear program" and "weapons of mass destruction" and his alleged capability to strike the UK "within 45 mins". However it soon became clear after the USA and the UK reduced this oil rich nation to rubble that there aren't any such weapons. Now it looks increasingly likely that Iran faces the same fate. So my question is. Is it right for Poland to continue to support G W Bush and his "war on terror"?

ZgubionyThreads: 21 Posts: 2,037 Joined: Oct 20, 06	Dec 17, 07, 09:26 / #
I don't think anyone should support it and I also think that Iran won't face the same fate as Iraq. The US is in too much debt and wearing thin on troops.

celinskiThreads: 83 Posts: 2,800 Joined: Nov 14, 07	Dec 17, 07, 09:33 / #
Right now I feel to leave Iraq would be wrong. We are where we are. Now to say see ya, would leave them in a bad place. Finish as quick as possiable and gradually down size. Pray for a better day. Carol

hairballThreads: 37 Posts: 787 Joined: Dec 16, 07	Dec 17, 07, 09:34 / #
Quoting: Zgubiony The US is in too much debt and wearing thin on troops. Maybe that's the point. After Saudi, Iran is the largest oil producer in the world. Bush can use his British and Polish "pupet armies". So he has plenty of troops

joepilsudskiThreads: 44 Posts: 2,529 Joined: Apr 27, 07	Dec 17, 07, 09:35 / #
The Polish people should have nothing to do with the War on Terror...It is essentially an extortion racket, backed by wholescale murder...hasn't Poland had enough wars?...time to build for strength, then peace.

ZgubionyThreads: 21 Posts: 2,037 Joined: Oct 20, 06	Dec 17, 07, 09:43 / #
Iran should be Europes problem as they're their neighbors. If it wasn't the US that Terrorists are after then it would eventually be non-muslim Europeans. These people hate everyone. I say Europe should fend for it's self. Ditch the Anti missile shields and everything. Europe should look after their own neighbors.

celinskiThreads: 83 Posts: 2,800 Joined: Nov 14, 07	Dec 17, 07, 09:46 / #
Quoting: joepilsudski hasn't Poland had enough wars Poland is closer to the USA than you think. Who do you think was there to help USA become free. Yes, Poland. Poland and USA have fought for freedom and personally I feel USA owes Poland big time for not being there for her in WW2. I also feel USA knows this. Carol

hairballThreads: 37 Posts: 787 Joined: Dec 16, 07	Dec 17, 07, 09:51 / #
Quoting: Zgubiony Ditch the Anti missile shields Well said! This can only antagonise our eastern neigbours. Poland doesn't need protection from USA. She has her Europian allies to defend her now.

celinskiThreads: 83 Posts: 2,800 Joined: Nov 14, 07	Dec 17, 07, 09:53 / #
Quoting: hairball She has her Europian allies to defend her now. That's worked well in the past. LOL Pres. Putin does not own Poland, maybe someone needs to tell him this. Poland is free. Carol

PolsonThreads: 15 Posts: 2,812 Joined: May 9, 07	Dec 17, 07, 09:59 / #
Most of Polish people are against this war and want their troops back as soon as possible (probably next year). Quoting: celinski Now to say see ya, would leave them in a bad place Yeah, cause it's so much better now. Whole families die "by mistake"...so sad... We, i mean those who went to Iraq should never have gone there. Of course, now it's not possible to get out of there after all the mess...

lesserThreads: 7 Posts: 2,014 Joined: Oct 19, 07	Dec 17, 07, 11:30 / #
Quoting: hairball I think you'll find America backed the other side!! Sorry my bad, indeed you are right. Fits for my original point even better.

jonniThreads: 26 Posts: 4,181 Joined: Nov 27, 07	Dec 17, 07, 12:14 / #
Quoting: joepilsudski but, understand this, the American government, the Clintons, Bushs, Gores & Cheney serve another master But who/what is their master? Sadly not me.

plk123Threads: 30 Posts: 6,412 Joined: Aug 29, 07	Dec 17, 07, 12:26 / #
Quoting: hairball I think you'll find America backed the other side!! yup

southernThreads: 116 Posts: 10,950 Joined: May 17, 07	Dec 17, 07, 12:29 / #
You will see in one-two years a terrorist attack in Poland.

lesserThreads: 7 Posts: 2,014 Joined: Oct 19, 07	Edited by: lesser Dec 17, 07, 10:35 / #
Quoting: Zgubiony Iran should be Europes problem as they're their neighbors. If it wasn't the US that Terrorists are after then it would eventually be non-muslim Europeans. These people hate everyone. I say Europe should fend for it's self. Ditch the Anti missile shields and everything. Europe should look after their own neighbors. Iran is mainly a problem for Iranians themselves. In recent history Iran fought war neither with Armenia, Turkmenistan, Azerbaijan, Syria, Turkey, Pakistan or Afghanistan. The only war with neighbor country was against Saddam's Iraq. Iranians were armed and backed by the US in this conflict. Quoting: celinski Poland is closer to the USA than you think. Who do you think was there to help USA become free. Yes, Poland. Poland and USA have fought for freedom and personally I feel USA owes Poland big time for not being there for her in WW2. I also feel USA knows this. There is no sentiments in politics and I can assure you there is few as much pragmatic countries as the US.

hairballThreads: 37 Posts: 787 Joined: Dec 16, 07	Dec 17, 07, 11:15 / #
Quoting: lesser The only war with neighbor country was against Saddam's Iraq. Iranians were armed and backed by the US in this conflict. I think you'll find America backed the other side!!

z_dariusThreads: 22 Posts: 5,091 Joined: Oct 18, 07	Dec 17, 07, 11:33 / #
Quoting: hairball Should Poland continue to suport Bush's war on terror? This is a tricky question. I don't think Bush is involved in any wars on terror. He uses terror as an excuse for the many other agendas he is paid to support.

joepilsudskiThreads: 44 Posts: 2,529 Joined: Apr 27, 07	Dec 17, 07, 11:39 / #
Quoting: celinski Poland is closer to the USA than you think. Who do you think was there to help USA become free. Yes, Poland. Poland and USA have fought for freedom and personally I feel USA owes Poland big time for not being there for her in WW2. I also feel USA knows this. Of course, the Polish people & American people have traditionally been friends and allies...but, understand this, the American government, the Clintons, Bushs, Gores & Cheney serve another master, and care neither for the American people nor the Polish people...this is simply a sad fact...an example of this is Bush sending his homosexual lover, Victor Ashe, over to Poland to be the US Ambassador, beause he wanted to get him away from the American press...Victor Ashe knows nothing of Polish concerns or history....he was a failed mayor from the city of Knoxville TN, who was involved in continuous scandal during his term there...and also, this 'missile shield' proposal which will cause Poland only grief...

plk123Threads: 30 Posts: 6,412 Joined: Aug 29, 07	Dec 17, 07, 12:52 / #
Quoting: southern You will see in one-two years a terrorist attack in Poland. i don't think so. imo.

celinskiThreads: 83 Posts: 2,800 Joined: Nov 14, 07	Dec 17, 07, 12:55 / #
Quoting: joepilsudski Cheney This is the one that scares me. Quoting: southern terrorist attack in Poland. Lets pray this is not the case. Quoting: Polson Whole families die "by mistake"...so sad... I still have to weigh the gassed families by Saddam. Their way of life was screwed up and this seems to be forgotten. Human rights were not to be had. I guess for the ones on Saddams pay role it was OK but this was very few. Some had the golden tolit bowl while others were starving. I guess none of us will know if this was the right time and for a better future. Yes, the timing could have been better. But make no mistake, whole families were dying. Quoting: joepilsudski Clintons, Bushs, Gores & Cheney serve another master The Clintons and Gores are democrats and did not declare war. Bush is with Cheney. Carol

southernThreads: 116 Posts: 10,950 Joined: May 17, 07	Dec 17, 07, 13:00 / #
Quoting: plk123 i don't think so. imo. Poland is weak target because it has low security measures.They can cause vast damage.Probably they wait till something important is about to take place in order to strike.

Shawn_H	Dec 17, 07, 13:02 / #
Like a large Football tournament?

celinskiThreads: 83 Posts: 2,800 Joined: Nov 14, 07	Dec 17, 07, 13:13 / #
Quoting: southern Poland is weak target because it has low security measures Could this be a reason to get anti missle in place. Better to have and not use, than not have and need. Carol

joepilsudskiThreads: 44 Posts: 2,529 Joined: Apr 27, 07	Edited by: joepilsudski Dec 17, 07, 13:19 / #
Quoting: celinski The Clintons and Gores are democrats and did not declare war. Bush is with Cheney. This is true...but look what Clinton did in Bosnia and in Waco TX USA...you need to research the Clinton family, AND, especially the Gore family, who are tied into, by marriage and financial partnerships, the Bolsheviks/Communists from the former Soviet Union. Quoting: jonni But who/what is their master? Sadly not me. Their masters are the international banking cartel, numerous multi-national corporations, and Israel/Zionism.

hairballThreads: 37 Posts: 787 Joined: Dec 16, 07	Dec 17, 07, 13:20 / #
Quoting: celinski Their way of life was screwed up and this seems to be forgotten. Human rights were not to be had. This regime was proped up by the west. I know because I spent many years protesting against it. But you should read somebodies storey from Iraq. riverbendblog.blogspot.com

PeterThreads: 5 Posts: 296 Joined: Mar 31, 07	Dec 17, 07, 14:13 / #
Quoting: celinski Right now I feel to leave Iraq would be wrong. We are where we are. Now to say see ya, would leave them in a bad place. Finish as quick as possiable and gradually down size. Pray for a better day. Carol I think that's the problem that the world in general is having to face thanks to Bush, Blair, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Rice and Powell...........a fait acompli.

LATINAThreads: 5 Posts: 198 Joined: Feb 19, 07	Dec 17, 07, 14:35 / #
Quoting: hairball this oil rich nation to rubble that there aren't any such weapons. Now it looks increasingly likely that Iran faces the same fate. So my question is. Is it right for Poland to continue to support G W Bush and his "war on terror"? I saw right through this guise from the beginning since 9/11. This war is all about profit for Bush. I don't think it is right for Poland to support Bush on this war on terror, for that matter no country should support Bush on his war for profit. This man has single handedly ruined the United States and the people.

isthatuThreads: 4 Posts: 1,627 Joined: Jun 8, 07	Dec 17, 07, 14:48 / #
Quoting: hairball I think you'll find America backed the other side!! I think youll find,America armed both sides. Cant any of you remember Marine Clnl Ollie North? Iran contra and all that? The Us was behind the toppling of a free and democratic govt in iran that led to the Shah's Dictatorship,which in turn led to the student revolt in the 1970s that toppled the Shah and let the religious nutters loose. The long and short of it is,as far as the middle east is concerned ,Britain and france screwed it up big time in the first half of last century,then along comes uncle sam and makes the same dumbass mistakes for the second half. Remember ,Osama was CIA trainedand london educated, the horrors of the east are products of the west.

southernThreads: 116 Posts: 10,950 Joined: May 17, 07	Dec 17, 07, 14:57 / #
Quoting: celinski Could this be a reason to get anti missle in place. Better to have and not use, than not have and need. You think that anti missile weapons will target terorrists carrying explosives?

helloThreads: 37 Posts: 1,104 Joined: Dec 5, 06	Dec 17, 07, 15:10 / #
It's really hard for us to tell if Poland should support the "Bush's war" or not. We don't know what the deal between the Polish and American government was. Most likely Bush promised Poland "something" and we don't know what it is or what it could be. But since the Polish government decided to give support I assume this "something" was/will be worthwhile. Because it would be silly for Poland to go to war just because the Big Brother asked us to (without any profits for Poland and Poles in return).