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Should Poland send volunteers to Georgia ?

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Grzegorz_Threads: 81 Posts: 6,213 Joined: Nov 16, 06	Aug 9, 08, 07:08 / #
I don't think that Poland as a country should get involved in that mess but what about providing volunteers with weapons, transport etc. ?

Arise_St_GeorgeThreads: 15 Posts: 572 Joined: Mar 8, 08	Aug 9, 08, 07:10 / #
Then Poland will be getting involved. You would might aswell engage in war.

DaisyThreads: 16 Posts: 2,172 Joined: Apr 28, 07	Aug 9, 08, 07:12 / #
Do you mean medical aid? doctors nurses etc.,

WroclawThreads: 77 Posts: 7,404 Joined: Apr 1, 06 [Moderator]	Aug 9, 08, 07:12 / #
Grzegorz_: Should we send volunteers to Georgia ? No. Russia will win whatever the rights and wrongs. Better for it to finish quickly rather than be drawn out with fools seeking glory.

wildroverThreads: 180 Posts: 8,188 Joined: Jun 7, 07	Aug 9, 08, 07:14 / #
Its going to be a dirty war...like the others in the region...not a good place to be i think...

southernThreads: 116 Posts: 10,952 Joined: May 17, 07	Aug 9, 08, 07:16 / #
Daisy: Do you mean medical aid? Or maybe some rock bands.

DaisyThreads: 16 Posts: 2,172 Joined: Apr 28, 07	Aug 9, 08, 07:16 / #
southern: southern I'm sure we can find a spare psychoanalyst for you Southern

ConstantineKThreads: 35 Posts: 1,949 Joined: May 10, 07	Aug 9, 08, 07:27 / #
Good joke, to send volunteers. May be you Grzegorz will be first? Than I will buy you a ticket to Georgia.

southernThreads: 116 Posts: 10,952 Joined: May 17, 07	Aug 9, 08, 07:34 / #
ConstantineK: Than I will buy you a ticket to Georgia. You dislike polish boys?

ConstantineKThreads: 35 Posts: 1,949 Joined: May 10, 07	Aug 9, 08, 08:28 / #
No, actually I like Grzegorz, I only hope he has enough brains to refuse this offer.

VaFunkooloThreads: 7 Posts: 823 Joined: Mar 24, 08	Aug 9, 08, 08:36 / #
Send humanitarian support by all means but dont contribute anything that might assist the war effort in anyway. That would be a very silly move

SashaThreads: 2 Posts: 1,597 Joined: Apr 19, 08	Aug 9, 08, 09:29 / #
Grzegorz_: Grzegorz_ Today, 07:08 Report #1 I don't think that Poland as a country should get involved in that mess but what about providing volunteers with weapons, transport etc. ? Just one or two questions: 1) Did you support Kosovo's independence. If "yes" then... 2) Why do you think Georgia is right here?

Grzegorz_Threads: 81 Posts: 6,213 Joined: Nov 16, 06	Aug 9, 08, 11:59 / #
Sasha: 1) Did you support Kosovo's independence. No. Sasha: 2) Why do you think Georgia is right here? Becuse unless "world community" decide something else then that territory is a damn part of their country.

osiolThreads: 59 Posts: 4,714 Joined: Jul 25, 07	Aug 9, 08, 12:07 / #
Why does someone always mention Kosovo in these kinds of discussions? There may be parallels with many modern day ethnic conflicts, but simply stating that conflicts like this are the same thing, unfairly simplifies the problem. It is essential in cases like Georgia to know more rather than less. There may be some mess, and some sort of humanitarian aid may be required somewhere.

polishcanuckThreads: 10 Posts: 583 Joined: Feb 11, 07	Aug 9, 08, 12:14 / #
osiol: Why does someone always mention Kosovo in these kinds of discussions? Because the present conflict in georgia is very similar to what happened in kosovo! duh

SashaThreads: 2 Posts: 1,597 Joined: Apr 19, 08	Edited by: Sasha Aug 9, 08, 12:26 / #
Grzegorz_: No Then second question is redundant. :) If Kosovo precedent didn't happen and Georgia didn't kill civilians, I would rather support Georgia as well. osiol: There may be parallels with many modern day ethnic conflicts, but simply stating that conflicts like this are the same thing, unfairly simplifies the problem. It is essential in cases like Georgia to know more rather than less. Ok. You're right. SO has more rights to be independent then Kosovo ever had since it has never been the cradle of Georgian culture and religion, Osetians have never kept down Georgians on their territory and they've lived on that territory for centuries.

southernThreads: 116 Posts: 10,952 Joined: May 17, 07	Aug 9, 08, 12:29 / #
The problem of Osetians is that they are not Albanians.

Wroclaw Boy	Edited by: Wroclaw Boy Aug 9, 08, 12:33 / #
Grzegorz_: I don't think that Poland as a country should get involved in that mess but what about providing volunteers with weapons, transport etc. ? Send in the Kiełbasa and Bigos armed with Sałatka. Seriously let the Russians have their way, for now!

SashaThreads: 2 Posts: 1,597 Joined: Apr 19, 08	Aug 9, 08, 12:34 / #
southern: The problem of Osetians is that they are not Albanians. That's the keen observation.

joepilsudskiThreads: 44 Posts: 2,529 Joined: Apr 27, 07	Aug 9, 08, 12:53 / #
Grzegorz_: I don't think that Poland as a country should get involved in that mess but what about providing volunteers with weapons, transport etc. ? Well, if Poland gets involved on the 'Georgian' side, she will be working right along with the Israelis, who are heavily involved in this conflict...Maybe this will be the sign of a new 'Polish-Israeli co-operation agreement'.

Foreigner4Threads: 22 Posts: 1,984 Joined: Nov 18, 07	Aug 9, 08, 13:10 / #
getting involved would be the stupidest thing polish leaders could decide to do regarding this matter.

OryctesThreads: - Posts: 10 Joined: Jul 10, 08	Aug 9, 08, 13:50 / #
I don't think we could make any independent decisions about military support for Georgia as a NATO member, even if we thought it wise, which it isn't. However, international community and especially the USA should do everything possible to prevent the Russians from taking control of Georgia and installing their puppets there. Ukraine could be next, to name but one. Besides they want to cut off gas and oil pipes running through Georgia. There is only one argument Russians understand and that is power. Poland doesn't have this argument, NATO does. One important thing: the sooner we reduce our dependence on Russian oil and gas the safer we will be.

Wahldo	Aug 9, 08, 13:54 / #
Oryctes: especially the USA The US needs to stay the hell away from it. No "advisors" no nothing. This has nothing whatsoever to do with the United States of America.

BabinichThreads: 1 Posts: 1,054 Joined: May 26, 08	Aug 9, 08, 14:03 / #
Wahldo: The US needs to stay the hell away from it. No "advisors" no nothing. This has nothing whatsoever to do with the United States of America. Quite right; we (the US of which I am a citizen) should leave our fingerprints off this.

osiolThreads: 59 Posts: 4,714 Joined: Jul 25, 07	Edited by: osiol Aug 9, 08, 14:15 / #
polishcanuck: duh Go "Duh!" yourself. Did I not say there would be similarities? It is not the same. Refer to Sasha's post following mine for one very good example of a difference.

Wroclaw Boy	Aug 9, 08, 14:21 / #
Its like two guys having a fight and then one guy throws in a boot - Poland. It's insignificant although the repercussions could be enormous, shut up G you aint got the power even if you wanted too.

tornado2007Threads: 20 Posts: 3,497 Joined: Jul 11, 07	Aug 9, 08, 14:37 / #
Grzegorz_: I don't think that Poland as a country should get involved in that mess but what about providing volunteers with weapons, transport etc. ? i totally agree with you about Poland, i also suggest that the rest of europe takes a back seat, this is between Russia and Georgia and it seems to me Georgia has dug itslef a hole it cannot get out of.

Grzegorz_Threads: 81 Posts: 6,213 Joined: Nov 16, 06	Aug 9, 08, 15:56 / #
Wahldo: The US needs to stay the hell away from it. No "advisors" no nothing. This has nothing whatsoever to do with the United States of America. Babinich: Quite right; we (the US of which I am a citizen) should leave our fingerprints off this. LOL ! Georgians sent 2000 soldiers to Iraq and now screw them ? One has to love the Yanks !

shopgirlThreads: 7 Posts: 1,446 Joined: Apr 6, 07	Aug 9, 08, 15:59 / #
Grzegorz_: LOL ! Georgians sent 2000 soldiers to Iraq and now screw them ? One has to love the Yanks ! If the US did send troops, then you would just bash the US and say it is none of their business, and call it neocons taking over the world! People! Make up your damn minds already!

southernThreads: 116 Posts: 10,952 Joined: May 17, 07	Aug 9, 08, 16:05 / #
Only the Kossaks have sent volunteers till now.(to South Ossetia).

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