Should Poles become a minority in Poland?

Considering how much Britain has f**ked up the rest of the world, it's hard to be too upset at the rest of the world returning the favor and screwing up Britain.

Past British governments did everything they could to wipe out the languages and cultures of Africa and the Indian sub-continent, why should Africans and Southern Asians show British culture and the English language any more consideration than they were given?

I kind of sympathise with what's going on in Britain, but it's hard not to connect it with past British policies. Maybe the British voting public should start making better choices than they have for the last 30 or so years.

mrlolThreads: 1 Posts: 15 Joined: Apr 13, 09	Edited by: mrlol Apr 13, 09, 00:33 / #
In Britain, the ethnic British peoples (English, Scottish, Welsh) are set to become a minority by around 2070. Already major cities are not British anymore. Our second largest city Birmingham is set to become fully foreign in 15 years or so - telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1561758/White-people-a-minority-by-2027.ht ml Britain is being colonised by the third world - Africans and Asians. I would like to ask if Poles would be content if Poland was to be colonised by 40 million Africans.. Asians.. and other different ethnic groups? Would you mind if the Polish people were a minority in Poland? Or would you want Poland to be the home of Polish people?

miraThreads: - Posts: 142 Joined: Jan 28, 09	Apr 13, 09, 00:51 / #
But it will not happen in the nearest future due to our economy, to our government... What do you actually want to imply by asking questions as mrlol: I would like to ask if Poles would be content if Poland was to be colonised by 40 million Africans.. Asians.. and other different ethnic groups? Would you mind if the Polish people were a minority in Poland? Or would you want Poland to be the home of Polish people? ?

HatefulBunch397Threads: - Posts: 1,018 Joined: Nov 5, 08	Apr 13, 09, 00:53 / #
There's no such thing as permanence. Look at history. It's all about invaders after invaders. Has anything ever stopped it? They come from Asia and Africa if you are European. North and South America got theirs from Asia and Europe. Native Americans originated in Asia and crossed the Bering Strait thousands of years before the first Europeans, Vikings, arrived. Right now Britain is being peacefully invaded and if you are going to be invaded, peacefully is the best way. Britain has done it's share of invading, lest you forget. Nation states are successionist anyway. We are one world, one people.

mrlolThreads: 1 Posts: 15 Joined: Apr 13, 09	Edited by: mrlol Apr 13, 09, 00:53 / #
Well.. in Britain most people do not care about the British people being a minority. I am wondering if Polish people care about being a minority. Our government tells us that we are racist to request lower immigration. This is not a rant at Polish immigrants to the UK btw.. I am 1/4 Polish myself (My Grandfather was Polish and he fought in Italy with the British)

niejestemcapitaThreads: 3 Posts: 666 Joined: Jan 3, 09	Edited by: niejestemcapita Apr 13, 09, 00:54 / #
HatefulBunch397: Britain has done it's share of invading, lest you forget. yes HB, they forget this easily

HatefulBunch397Threads: - Posts: 1,018 Joined: Nov 5, 08	Apr 13, 09, 00:55 / #
mrlol: Well.. in Britain most people do not care about the British people being a minority. If you are a minority you get special priviledges anyway so why complain?

mrlolThreads: 1 Posts: 15 Joined: Apr 13, 09	Apr 13, 09, 00:57 / #
Because Britain is our ethnic homeland. Britain is nothing more than land on a map if it is not inhabited by the British people. What would Poland be without Polish people ? Just another area of land on a map.

HatefulBunch397Threads: - Posts: 1,018 Joined: Nov 5, 08	Edited by: HatefulBunch397 Apr 13, 09, 00:59 / #
You cannot compare Britain to Poland anyway because Poland wasn't the imperial power Britain was. How can you compare the two? Aren't many of your "minorities" from countries that were once colonies of Britain? Sorry, but I chuckle at the incredible irony whenever I see British complaining about immigrants.

moothecowThreads: - Posts: 2 Joined: Apr 11, 09	Apr 13, 09, 01:03 / #
I love that you mention ethnic English - what century are you starting that from? 100, 500, 1600, 1800? You'll get a very different answer from each sample...

niejestemcapitaThreads: 3 Posts: 666 Joined: Jan 3, 09	Edited by: niejestemcapita Apr 13, 09, 01:06 / #
HatefulBunch397: Aren't many of your "minorities" from countries that were once colonies of Britain? yes of course they are, I guess some people didn't study any history.. Birmingham's "minorities" are largely from the sub continent many of whom arrived in Britain after partition, which was a horrible British made human disaster.

moothecowThreads: - Posts: 2 Joined: Apr 11, 09	Edited by: moothecow Apr 13, 09, 01:12 / #
osiol: It is odd that so many people from countries with no historical connection or cultural commonality with Britain end up coming here. It's not odd, it's the history of Britain! I agree that any society should have the right to govern who may and may not join them, but to deny Britain's past - I mean really, c'mon. Edit: just to clarify, when I talk about Britain's past, I'm talking over the last 2,000 years.

osiolThreads: 59 Posts: 4,714 Joined: Jul 25, 07	Apr 13, 09, 01:16 / #
moothecow: but to deny Britain's past - Have I denied Britain's past? mafketis: Past British governments did everything they could to wipe out the languages and cultures of Africa and the Indian sub-continent That is not entirely true. There were no policies to try to convert the entire population of the Indian subcontinent to C of E. You would have thought that the popularity of tea would have been a head start though. The actual policies (rather unpleasant as they were) were more of a kind of "we're better than them but leave them to their peculiar antiquated ways". There seems to be a habit of looking at history through a filter of other things that have happened much more recently.

niejestemcapitaThreads: 3 Posts: 666 Joined: Jan 3, 09	Apr 13, 09, 01:18 / #
mrlol: Historically we have never had net immigration. ummm......The Irish? West Indians? French Hugenots? Russian Jews? and going back further? Danes? Vikings? (repeat til fade)

osiolThreads: 59 Posts: 4,714 Joined: Jul 25, 07	Apr 13, 09, 01:21 / #
mrlol: net immigration The key thing here is the word net. There has been immigration, welcome or otherwise for a very long time indeed. Longer than recorded history. I just think that these days there is a complete lack of rational policy. Why should anyone in the world today be punished for something others did in the past? Why should anyone get a free lunch, supposedly for something that was done by someone else in the past? I detect a bit of schadenfreude going on around here from some.

osiolThreads: 59 Posts: 4,714 Joined: Jul 25, 07	Apr 13, 09, 01:09 / #
It is odd that so many people from countries with no historical connection or cultural commonality with Britain end up coming here. HatefulBunch397: Sorry, but I chuckle at the incredible irony whenever I see British complaining about immigrants. Any country should have control over who enters. Immigration here isn't about a few Anglophilic Indians, Jamaicans who were a kind of British invention to start with and some similarly minded Poles. It's about letting anyone in who feels like it. Worthy of a chuckle?

mafketisThreads: 17 Posts: 1,880 Joined: Mar 31, 08	Apr 13, 09, 01:10 / #
mrlol: Because Britain is our ethnic homeland. Britain is nothing more than land on a map if it is not inhabited by the British people. Considering how much Britain has f**ked up the rest of the world, it's hard to be too upset at the rest of the world returning the favor and screwing up Britain. Past British governments did everything they could to wipe out the languages and cultures of Africa and the Indian sub-continent, why should Africans and Southern Asians show British culture and the English language any more consideration than they were given? I kind of sympathise with what's going on in Britain, but it's hard not to connect it with past British policies. Maybe the British voting public should start making better choices than they have for the last 30 or so years.

mrlolThreads: 1 Posts: 15 Joined: Apr 13, 09	Apr 13, 09, 01:14 / #
Considering how much Britain has f**ked up the rest of the world, it's hard to be too upset at the rest of the world returning the favor and screwing up Britain. Past British governments did everything they could to wipe out the languages and cultures of Africa and the Indian sub-continent, why should Africans and Southern Asians show British culture and the English language any more consideration than they were given? I kind of sympathise with what's going on in Britain, but it's hard not to connect it with past British policies. Maybe the British voting public should start making better choices than they have for the last 30 or so years. Just because our ancestors colonised the savages of the third world does not mean the current British people should become a minority in our own country. This is genocide of the British people.

niejestemcapitaThreads: 3 Posts: 666 Joined: Jan 3, 09	Apr 13, 09, 01:15 / #
mrlol: Just because our ancestors colonised the savages of the third world does not mean the current British people should become a minority in our own country. This is genocide of the British people. Dont be silly

mrlolThreads: 1 Posts: 15 Joined: Apr 13, 09	Edited by: mrlol Apr 13, 09, 01:15 / #
img26.imageshack.us/my.php?image=immigrations.jpg Britain - A nation of emigrants. Historically we have never had net immigration.

mrlolThreads: 1 Posts: 15 Joined: Apr 13, 09	Apr 13, 09, 01:18 / #
Dont be silly Who is being silly? You would call the people Britain colonised as civilised people?

mafketisThreads: 17 Posts: 1,880 Joined: Mar 31, 08	Apr 13, 09, 01:22 / #
mrlol: Just because our ancestors colonised the savages of the third world does not mean the current British people should become a minority in our own country. This is genocide of the British people. You had more sympathy from before that little outburst. Part of me likes the idea of a culturally British Britain but karma is what it is and Britain is now enjoying the karma of its colonial adventures. And vote more intelligently in the future!

CoolMoonThreads: 1 Posts: 71 Joined: Jan 10, 08	Apr 13, 09, 01:23 / #
mrlol: This is not a rant at Polish immigrants to the UK Clearly not. It appears to be a rant against those with a whisper - different skin colour. mrlol - please, define 'British'. What makes someone 'British'? If you wouldn't mind.

niejestemcapitaThreads: 3 Posts: 666 Joined: Jan 3, 09	Apr 13, 09, 01:24 / #
mafketis: Britain is now enjoying the karma of its colonial adventures yeh exactly....hardly "ancient history" mafketis: vote more intelligently in the future! pffff!!

mrlolThreads: 1 Posts: 15 Joined: Apr 13, 09	Apr 13, 09, 01:25 / #
You had more sympathy from before that little outburst. Part of me likes the idea of a culturally British Britain but karma is what it is and Britain is now enjoying the karma of its colonial adventures. And vote more intelligently in the future! If they were civilised .. Why are all our former colonies still following the same law and political structure which Britain gave them ? Pakistan.. India... South Africa.. every country loves the British legal system which we gave them.

niejestemcapitaThreads: 3 Posts: 666 Joined: Jan 3, 09	Apr 13, 09, 01:26 / #
mrlol: Pakistan.. India... South Africa.. every country loves the British legal system which we gave them. ahh but they love the cricket more......

mrlolThreads: 1 Posts: 15 Joined: Apr 13, 09	Apr 13, 09, 01:27 / #
rlol - please, define 'British'. What makes someone 'British'? If you wouldn't mind. British born (white) parents and significant northern European DNA.

SeanusThreads: 22 Posts: 30,158 Joined: Dec 25, 07	Edited by: Seanus Apr 13, 09, 01:27 / #
The British legal system, what's that exactly? Even the most basic of law students will tell you that the Scottish system is different from the English one. It's not that easy to tinker with legal systems, let alone wholly replace one. White parents? LOL, what about those that are British through naturalisation and are not white?

mrlolThreads: 1 Posts: 15 Joined: Apr 13, 09	Apr 13, 09, 01:29 / #
White parents? LOL, what about those that are British through naturalisation and are not white? Which ethnic group is home to Europe? Various white ethnic groups. The British are not Africans or Asians. They are European. What colour are Europeans? White. Simple as that really.

niejestemcapitaThreads: 3 Posts: 666 Joined: Jan 3, 09	Apr 13, 09, 01:30 / #
mrlol: British born (white) parents and significant northern European DNA. and fourth generation Black British?

CoolMoonThreads: 1 Posts: 71 Joined: Jan 10, 08	Apr 13, 09, 01:31 / #
mrlol: British born (white) parents and significant northern European DNA. This is what makes someone British is it? It's just not entirely true though. Is it? You don't have to be white to be born British and you haven't for a LONG LONG time. You don't have to have any European DNA. You've just a very mixed up person mrlol who has read the article you posted the wrong way. I've read it three or four times now and it doesn't back up your arguements at all. Seanus: The British legal system, what's that exactly? Even the most basic of law students will tell you that the Scottish system is different from the English one. That is true.