Some Poles burning American flag

Quoting: FISZ

Our right to burn a flag is not centered on the flag itself or who it belongs to, but our right to make a statement without being regulated. In the US, flag burning is protected by the first amendment of the Constitution, which says inpart:“Congress shall make no law abridging freedom of speech.”Our first amendment freedom of speech is protected no matter what nation’s flag is involved.

freebirdThreads: 3 Posts: 638 Joined: Jun 8, 07	Edited by: Administrator Jun 13, 07, 13:00 / #
I saw it today on TV. Do you think it's OK?

shopgirlThreads: 7 Posts: 1,446 Joined: Apr 6, 07	Jun 13, 07, 13:01 / #
Where did you see it, what network? Why were they doing it? Protest of missile base?

slwkkThreads: 3 Posts: 249 Joined: Mar 31, 07	Edited by: slwkk Jun 13, 07, 13:03 / #
I'm sure they were antiglobalists protesting against the visit of George Bush. Just ignore them ;-)

freebirdThreads: 3 Posts: 638 Joined: Jun 8, 07	Edited by: freebird Jun 13, 07, 13:07 / #
Quoting: shopgirl Where did you see it, what network? Why were they doing it? Protest of missile base? Can't name the network but it was sent today. I believe it was about Bush visit in Poland. Sorry was too short to get the sense out of it. I understand, some people or even many people don't like Bush but to burn the US flag, that's bull..........

freebirdThreads: 3 Posts: 638 Joined: Jun 8, 07	Jun 13, 07, 13:07 / #
Quoting: slwkk antiglobalists you might be right about that, I'm not sure, was too short

shopgirlThreads: 7 Posts: 1,446 Joined: Apr 6, 07	Jun 13, 07, 13:13 / #
I think flag burning happens all the time....it makes for a bold statement for those you have an issue with the US. I believe in free speech, so it doesn't really bother me. I take it as a comment that they don't like what they perceive our country is representing...an opinion if you will. And I really did not like the backlash the Dixie Chicks got for dissing George. The vicious, hate filled backlash, in my opinion, was far worse than anything Natalie said.

helloThreads: 37 Posts: 1,104 Joined: Dec 5, 06	Jun 13, 07, 13:13 / #
Quoting: freebird I understand, some people or even many people don't like Bush but to burn the US flag, that's bull.......... Name a country in which there were no US or whatever country flags burnt. Just because there are some radical people in Poland who did that doesn't mean all Poles burn American flags. Same with hooligans - if some British hools attacked black people, a normal person would not write "British people attacking black people", would it? Please don't create anotyer hype/stereotype. The topic of this thread should be: "A few Poles burnt American flag".

freebirdThreads: 3 Posts: 638 Joined: Jun 8, 07	Jun 13, 07, 13:19 / #
Quoting: hello that doesn't mean all Poles burn American flags did I say that all Poles burn US flags? :-)

slwkkThreads: 3 Posts: 249 Joined: Mar 31, 07	Jun 13, 07, 13:19 / #
Quoting: freebird you might be right about that, I'm not sure, was too short Not good, now some Americans because of that news can think that burning USA flag is normal thing in Poland :P Anybody should know that we don't burn any flags, even Russian or Iraqi ones.

freebirdThreads: 3 Posts: 638 Joined: Jun 8, 07	Jun 13, 07, 13:21 / #
Quoting: hello The topic of this thread should be: "A few Poles burnt American flag". take a good look at the name of the topic one more time .....please

FISZThreads: 31 Posts: 2,607 Joined: Jun 14, 06	Jun 13, 07, 13:31 / #
We've even burned our own flag during Vietnam. Who cares?

FISZThreads: 31 Posts: 2,607 Joined: Jun 14, 06	Edited by: FISZ Jun 13, 07, 13:33 / #
Quoting: freebird you're full of it fisz Full of what? It's a right. What type of reply is this? They say it's a "Desecration". What say you? Me? Since when can the Govt say something is sacred? We do have seperation of church and state....no?

daffyThreads: 40 Posts: 2,119 Joined: Feb 5, 07	Edited by: daffy Jun 13, 07, 13:35 / #
flag burning is the right of the people. it is a symbol for their dissatisfaction with the state. while i wouldn't do it myself I believe blind obedience to the state is foolish and asking for trouble (removal of freedom, the patriot act) I appreciate there is a 'war on terror' but its also been a good way for the US gov't to pry into the homes of every US citizen at there will and leisure

FISZThreads: 31 Posts: 2,607 Joined: Jun 14, 06	Jun 13, 07, 13:35 / #
Quoting: freebird you obviously don't fisz with your "difficult times" Ok....go educate yourself then come back and chat.

polishcanuckThreads: 10 Posts: 583 Joined: Feb 11, 07	Jun 13, 07, 13:24 / #
I don't have a picture of the burning of the flag, but here is a pic of the aftermath:

freebirdThreads: 3 Posts: 638 Joined: Jun 8, 07	Jun 13, 07, 13:25 / #
Quoting: slwkk Not good, now some Americans because of that news can think that burning USA flag is normal thing in Poland :P Anybody should know that we don't burn any flags, even Russian or Iraqi ones. Thank you for your statement. I realize that most of Poles don't burn flags :-)

Grzegorz_Threads: 81 Posts: 6,213 Joined: Nov 16, 06	Jun 13, 07, 13:28 / #
Quoting: polishcanuck I don't have a picture of the burning of the flag, but here is a pic of the aftermath: When that happened and why ?

FISZThreads: 31 Posts: 2,607 Joined: Jun 14, 06	Jun 13, 07, 13:29 / #
Quoting: slwkk Not good, now some Americans because of that news can think that burning USA flag is normal thing in Poland Not at all. Flag burning is the right of the people.

freebirdThreads: 3 Posts: 638 Joined: Jun 8, 07	Jun 13, 07, 13:30 / #
Quoting: polishcanuck don't have a picture of the burning of the flag, but here is a pic of the aftermath: OK....and your statement to it is....?

freebirdThreads: 3 Posts: 638 Joined: Jun 8, 07	Jun 13, 07, 13:32 / #
Quoting: FISZ Not at all. Flag burning is the right of the people. you're full of it fisz

freebirdThreads: 3 Posts: 638 Joined: Jun 8, 07	Jun 13, 07, 13:34 / #
Quoting: FISZ We've even burned our own flag during Vietnam. Who cares? you obviously don't fisz with your "difficult times"

freebirdThreads: 3 Posts: 638 Joined: Jun 8, 07	Jun 13, 07, 13:35 / #
you know fisz what I'm talking about lol

Grzegorz_Threads: 81 Posts: 6,213 Joined: Nov 16, 06	Jun 13, 07, 13:36 / #
Quoting: FISZ Flag burning is the right of the people. Not everywhere. I don't know about others, but burning Polish in Poland is a crime. And we don't use to burn even Russian or German, so I'm very surprised.

FISZThreads: 31 Posts: 2,607 Joined: Jun 14, 06	Edited by: Moderator Jun 13, 07, 13:37 / #
Quoting: freebird you know fisz what I'm talking about lol ? Wha? Quoting: daffy while i wouldn't do it myself I agree. Our right to burn a flag is not centered on the flag itself or who it belongs to, but our right to make a statement without being regulated. In the US, flag burning is protected by the first amendment of the Constitution, which says inpart:“Congress shall make no law abridging freedom of speech.”Our first amendment freedom of speech is protected no matter what nation’s flag is involved.

freebirdThreads: 3 Posts: 638 Joined: Jun 8, 07	Jun 13, 07, 13:46 / #
Quoting: Grzegorz_ Not everywhere. I don't know about others, but burning Polish in Poland is a crime. And we don't use to burn even Russian or German, so I'm very surprised. thanks Grzegorz and besides burning a national flag of one country deeply touches millions of people even if they disagree with current politics and certainly doesn't solve any national or international problems.

MatyjaszThreads: 2 Posts: 1,786 Joined: Jul 20, 06	Edited by: Matyjasz Jun 13, 07, 13:46 / #
Quoting: Grzegorz_ Not everywhere. I don't know about others, but burning Polish in Poland is a crime. And we don't use to burn even Russian or German, so I'm very surprised. Well, those people where anty-glob..... ermm pardon me, alter-globalists. I guess it explains everything. :)

FISZThreads: 31 Posts: 2,607 Joined: Jun 14, 06	Jun 13, 07, 13:47 / #
So....you don't care about the right's we DO have? People in Iran burn our flag on a daily basis...why aren't you out protesting this?

freebirdThreads: 3 Posts: 638 Joined: Jun 8, 07	Jun 13, 07, 13:50 / #
Quoting: FISZ why aren't you out protesting this? are you comparing Iran with Poland?

FISZThreads: 31 Posts: 2,607 Joined: Jun 14, 06	Edited by: Moderator Jun 13, 07, 13:52 / #
Quoting: freebird are you comparing Iran with Poland? ok...forget it. It's beyond you. At this point you're looking for an arguement. I never said anything like that. I just appreciate my First Ammendment right. Sad as an American you don't. I will post this again: Quoting: FISZ Our right to burn a flag is not centered on the flag itself or who it belongs to, but our right to make a statement without being regulated. In the US, flag burning is protected by the first amendment of the Constitution, which says inpart:“Congress shall make no law abridging freedom of speech.”Our first amendment freedom of speech is protected no matter what nation’s flag is involved.

espanaThreads: 40 Posts: 2,233 Joined: Feb 28, 07	Jun 13, 07, 13:59 / #
Quoting: FISZ People in Iran burn our flag on a daily basis... is only a flag in the end