Nazism is rising in Germany again!

Quoting: truhlei

Quoting: Crow
It`s a twisted to me to see that Nazism in its vulgarities trying to prove that Germans are descendents of Aryans. No, they are not. Slavs are and, there is nothing anti non-Whites in culture of our Slavic (Proto Slavic/Aryan etc.) ancestors. Thru time, we laerned to survive as unique race thru cooperation with other civuilizations, in competition but in tolerance.

Germans failed, as all Germanics. Slavs are last native Europeans- true children of Gaia.

For Russia it is more important to stay the Third Rome and concentration of New Israel than Slav state

Quoting: shopgirl

Quoting: Crow
there is nothing anti non-Whites in culture of our Slavic

But in the US (and I am also aware of groups in Canada as well from on-line investigating), a lot of groups here are white-supremists.......whether they connect themselves with Nazi imagery or not.

But Crow, from things other posters from Poland have said.....I'm not so sure there is such readliy acceptance of non-whites there, either. I already got the impression that Polish populations is fairly homogeous (?????)

El GamalThreads: 2 Posts: 32 Joined: Jul 1, 07	Jul 16, 07, 16:44 / #
Almost every day I read about German nazis rude behaviour. Yesterday they beatten 16-years old Pole in Berlin: fakty.interia.pl/swiat/europa/news/neofaszysci-pobili-polaka-w- berlinie,944363,3280 Today they attacked people (immigrants) on the beach with guns!! wiadomosci.onet.pl/1572958,12,item.html I often read about nazi-marchces in German cities, where police does nothing. Openly agressive towards foreginers party, NPD, is legal and even partially financed from federal budget. I observe rising fascination of nazi ideology among todays Germans. IMO giving to Germans chance to develop their state after 1945 was one of the biggest mistakes of Allies. That nation will never change - always rude and hating other nationals, always thinking of themselves as better than others. No they see their chance again, like in 1914, 1939...

Wyspianska	Jul 17, 07, 03:14 / #
That sucks buuuuut Quoting: El Gamal That nation will never change - always rude and hating other nationals, always thinking of themselves as better than others. Im not so sure, u shouldnt talk general about all Germans. Every person is different. Even in Poland u can find some crazy Nietsche's fans. And btw, do u know that he was proud of polish kindred? Interesting how absurd can it be sometimes...

shopgirlThreads: 7 Posts: 1,446 Joined: Apr 6, 07	Jul 17, 07, 03:22 / #
This thread needs to float to the bottom of the forum, like a sunken ship, and be left there for coral.

Wyspianska	Jul 17, 07, 03:24 / #
Quoting: shopgirl This thread needs to float to the bottom of the forum, like a sunken ship, and be left there for coral. Heh, its good to talk about such things. Better this than pretend nothing happen.

shopgirlThreads: 7 Posts: 1,446 Joined: Apr 6, 07	Jul 17, 07, 03:28 / #
I don't agree....there have been too many really upset people because of threads like this. I don't like seeing ppl in here, that I care about, getting all twisted, over an isolated incident that could happen anywhere. :(

El GamalThreads: 2 Posts: 32 Joined: Jul 1, 07	Edited by: El Gamal Jul 17, 07, 12:01 / #
<div class="quoting">Quoting: shopgirl I don't agree....there have been too many really upset people because of threads like this. I don't like seeing ppl in here, that I care about, getting all twisted, over an isolated incident that could happen anywhere. :( </div> Oh yes, let's pretend that nothing is happening, let's pretend that Nazi Aumarches hadn't taken place even once, let's pretend that NPD isn't dangerous and fact it is legal is nothing bad, let's pretend that Steinbach has nothing to do with German policy, let's pretend that ... In 1930s people from the west also pretended that everything was OK. Now few of them even realises what had really happened in Poland in 1940s. They think, that all happened was that "nazis were killing the Jews". Typical ignorance. I live close to that all and see more than you. ------------ Newest data: wiadomosci.onet.pl/1573516,11,item.html Last sentence says that German ofice forces German citizen to put claims against Poland. Meanwhile Merkel says that German government is against such claims. LIARS.

ZgubionyThreads: 21 Posts: 2,037 Joined: Oct 20, 06	Jul 17, 07, 13:57 / #
It's unfortunate, but nazism has found a place in many countries. These are just the minority in the US. They're similar to the KKK. No one really pays attention to them, so they remain mostly underground. Maybe a few isolated incidents, but these are mostly the "wanna be's".

Patrycja19Threads: 76 Posts: 3,877 Joined: Oct 31, 06	Edited by: Patrycja19 Jul 17, 07, 14:01 / #
Quoting: Zgubiony No one really pays attention to them, Jerry springer does.. lol... they get to go on his show.. they rank up there with all those cheaters and slimey trailer park trash.. drum roll.. ta ta ta... forgot to slap my knee !! haw haw...

shopgirlThreads: 7 Posts: 1,446 Joined: Apr 6, 07	Jul 17, 07, 14:10 / #
Quoting: El Gamal Oh yes, let's pretend that nothing is happening I'm not pretending that "nothing is happening" but you are in fact, being alarmist in sensationalizing a phenomenon that happens everywhere.....even in North America. The sky is not falling, chicken little, so calm down!

ZgubionyThreads: 21 Posts: 2,037 Joined: Oct 20, 06	Jul 17, 07, 14:19 / #
He's entitled to post his opinion. We do have this freedom here. If someone isn't interested in reading it because they're sensitive, then they don't have to click on the link. If he want's to point out the wrondoings by modernday nazi's, then he's entitled to do so. Take a look at some of the other topics in this forum. At least this isn't about PL women.

EurolaThreads: 6 Posts: 2,647 Joined: Dec 2, 06	Jul 17, 07, 20:50 / #
Many people prefer to put any uncomfortable subject under the lid, but it does not solve the problem. I agree, that present day nazis, wherever they are, are just wannabes and pose no danger in general. However, they should not be ignored either. The world ignored Hitler in the 30's, and we know what happened. It's nice to live in la la land, but reality knock now and then never hurts. Sure, KKK has its meetings, the freedom of speech and expression of their believes allows them to exist, but they would not dare to put into action what they preach, nowadays. The same goes for nazi punks.

truhleiThreads: 14 Posts: 612 Joined: Jul 15, 07	Edited by: truhlei Jul 18, 07, 08:21 / #
Quoting: Zgubiony I don't suspect danger as these are only a minority living among us. They do exost, but are rarely seen because they know that they're a minority. I'm sure this is more a psycological challenge than political one. The majority of such extremists should be young boys with complex usually from divourced families or with problems with parents. They are sure nobody takes them seriously and they usually need to attract attention. Extremist conduct attracts attention, public starts discussing the point. They are able to provoke fright of foreigners and even protests of politicians abroad. Too much for a young boy who usually by the schoolar preparation and successes in studying is behind many oter boys of his age. I think psycologists should comment on this. I'm sure there are no reasons for a conclusion that "giving to Germans chance to develop their state after 1945 was one of the biggest mistakes of Allies". El Gamal, I think such conclusion is something this young extremists want to achieve: We take them seriously, as seriously as we can never take a goor-mannered and much studying cultural German boy despite all his assets. That's the mail submental psycological goal of such young lumpens or boys with psycological problems and complexes

dannyboyThreads: 24 Posts: 298 Joined: Feb 15, 07	Jul 18, 07, 09:09 / #
Just so you know, there are more nazis in Moscow than the rest of Europe combined. 100,000 at latest estimates and growing. Plus they are exteremely violent, have killed several to many non-whites.

truhleiThreads: 14 Posts: 612 Joined: Jul 15, 07	Jul 18, 07, 09:31 / #
Quoting: dannyboy 100,000 at latest estimates and growing 100 000 is too much for Moscow only (1 percent of population). I think the figure is exagerated. No more than some 5000 that can be accused of extremism. Not more. Besides that the qualifying of Nazi extremisnt is quite uneasy in Russia. There are few nazi more skinheads but the most strong and organized group is nacional-bolszewiki lead by Eduard Limonow. They have in my opinion a mix of communism and naci images Their banner is red with a white circle in the center as nazist one but in the center of a white circle former communist symbols. You can see it here: http://limonka.nbp-info.ru/limonka_1163588054_article_1163588741.html Although nazi and even italian fashist symbols are forbidden by Russian legislature, they manage to wear banners using judicial loopholes (they state its not pure nazi banner). I find them nacis of SA type before 1933 (Rem troops). The point is that Russian "democratic" opposition to Putin united with them. I think by need to have youngstears for battles.

Patrycja19Threads: 76 Posts: 3,877 Joined: Oct 31, 06	Jul 17, 07, 17:57 / #
Quoting: Zgubiony He's entitled to post his opinion. SG was only saying that in respect to the many arguments that arise with this subject.. which your right, discussing it calmly is the better way.. but certain People have went out of their way to accuse and call people nazi's ..so that is why SG Pointed out that this thread should go to the bottom of the pile..

truhleiThreads: 14 Posts: 612 Joined: Jul 15, 07	Jul 17, 07, 18:08 / #
Quoting: Zgubiony It's unfortunate, but nazism has found a place in many countries. These are just the minority in the US. They're similar to the KKK. No one really pays attention to them, so they remain mostly underground. Maybe a few isolated incidents, but these are mostly the "wanna be's". The same question to El Gamal. Are you sure this is no-marginal behaviour in Germany today? What are the reasons why you suspect danger?

ArturSzastakThreads: 6 Posts: 828 Joined: Feb 16, 07	Jul 17, 07, 20:53 / #
Quoting: El Gamal No they see their chance again, like in 1914, 1939... Yeah too bad they won't have the balls to do anything this time. Because Poland is a very good ally of the USA and UK now, but we have had our differences with France. They'll get stomped faster than ever.

ZgubionyThreads: 21 Posts: 2,037 Joined: Oct 20, 06	Jul 18, 07, 07:49 / #
Quoting: truhlei What are the reasons why you suspect danger? I don't suspect danger as these are only a minority living among us. They do exost, but are rarely seen because they know that they're a minority.

El GamalThreads: 2 Posts: 32 Joined: Jul 1, 07	Jul 18, 07, 16:16 / #
Topic attached on merging: Why talking about nazism in Germany is forbidden here? I ask again

Bratwurst BoyThreads: 11 Posts: 14,563 Joined: Apr 2, 07	Jul 18, 07, 16:17 / #
Okay...let's talk...

AdminThreads: 74 Posts: 3,059 Joined: Oct 31, 05 [Administrator]	Jul 18, 07, 16:18 / #
Feel free to talk about it at your own thread you started at http://www.polishforums.com/nazism_rising_germany_again-16_11574_0.htm l Admin

El GamalThreads: 2 Posts: 32 Joined: Jul 1, 07	Edited by: Administrator Jul 18, 07, 16:20 / #
I see thread has been merged to "Nazism in Poland - A recipe for mass suicide?" - OK.

AdminThreads: 74 Posts: 3,059 Joined: Oct 31, 05 [Administrator]	Jul 18, 07, 16:21 / #
Quoting: El Gamal I see thread has been merged to "Nazism in Poland - A recipe for mass suicide?" - OK. So are you interested in nazism in Poland or in Germany? Either way, you can find them both.

CrowThreads: 365 Posts: 7,189 Joined: Feb 14, 07	Edited by: Crow Jul 27, 07, 12:17 / #
Quoting: El Gamal Nazism is rising in Germany again! It`s a twisted to me to see that Nazism in its vulgarities trying to prove that Germans are descendents of Aryans. No, they are not. Slavs are and, there is nothing anti non-Whites in culture of our Slavic (Proto Slavic/Aryan etc.) ancestors. Thru time, we laerned to survive as unique race thru cooperation with other civuilizations, in competition but in tolerance. Germans failed, as all Germanics. Slavs are last native Europeans- true children of Gaia.

truhleiThreads: 14 Posts: 612 Joined: Jul 15, 07	Jul 27, 07, 12:58 / #
Quoting: Crow It`s a twisted to me to see that Nazism in its vulgarities trying to prove that Germans are descendents of Aryans. No, they are not. Slavs are and, there is nothing anti non-Whites in culture of our Slavic (Proto Slavic/Aryan etc.) ancestors. Thru time, we laerned to survive as unique race thru cooperation with other civuilizations, in competition but in tolerance. Germans failed, as all Germanics. Slavs are last native Europeans- true children of Gaia. For Russia it is more important to stay the Third Rome and concentration of New Israel than Slav state

shopgirlThreads: 7 Posts: 1,446 Joined: Apr 6, 07	Jul 27, 07, 13:01 / #
Quoting: Crow there is nothing anti non-Whites in culture of our Slavic But in the US (and I am also aware of groups in Canada as well from on-line investigating), a lot of groups here are white-supremists.......whether they connect themselves with Nazi imagery or not. But Crow, from things other posters from Poland have said.....I'm not so sure there is such readliy acceptance of non-whites there, either. I already got the impression that Polish populations is fairly homogeous (?????)

CrowThreads: 365 Posts: 7,189 Joined: Feb 14, 07	Edited by: Crow Jul 28, 07, 16:14 / #
Quoting: truhlei Quoting: Crow It`s a twisted to me to see that Nazism in its vulgarities trying to prove that Germans are descendents of Aryans. No, they are not. Slavs are and, there is nothing anti non-Whites in culture of our Slavic (Proto Slavic/Aryan etc.) ancestors. Thru time, we laerned to survive as unique race thru cooperation with other civuilizations, in competition but in tolerance. Germans failed, as all Germanics. Slavs are last native Europeans- true children of Gaia. For Russia it is more important to stay the Third Rome and concentration of New Israel than Slav state Good that you are not tipical Russian that I sow on the Net. I mean, there are Russians which would suggest that all Slavs need to share Orthodoxy, or that only unity of Orthodox Slavs can secure sustain unity. Most of Russians that I had opprortunity to talk with (not only on the Net) are on the first place Slavs and then Orthodox Slavs. But (one example), no matter slavophilia, many of those Russians are very surprised when become aware of close and honest relation between Orthodox Serbs of Balkan and Catholic/Protestant Serbs (Sorbs) of Lusatia. I think that majority of Poles is surprised, too (especily if considered results of enormous anti-Serbian propaganda of false West). Czechs (i think) are aware of it, from long time ago. Lusatian Serbs are greatly integreted in Polish nation (could be considered as part of Polish nation) and I think that they today represent bridge between Poles and Balkan Serbs. Mutual `Serbian feelings` (some kind of pan-Serbian feelings) which exists between Lusatian and Balkan Serbs interestingly coexist with national feelings which Lusatians share with Poles. I would like to see that Russians share similar feelings with Lusatians and Poles because of close connections between Russians and Balkan Serbs. I look forward in united Slavic civilization. Only that way... our languges, culture and people can survive and we can prosper. Quoting: shopgirl Quoting: Crow there is nothing anti non-Whites in culture of our Slavic But in the US (and I am also aware of groups in Canada as well from on-line investigating), a lot of groups here are white-supremists.......whether they connect themselves with Nazi imagery or not. But Crow, from things other posters from Poland have said.....I'm not so sure there is such readliy acceptance of non-whites there, either. I already got the impression that Polish populations is fairly homogeous (?????) I will show you (as ilustration) what my friend from Poland, which share pan-Slavic orrientation with me, sent to me for information (sorry if somebody already posted this information)... Polska tylko dla Słowian? wiadomosci.onet.pl/1577714,11,item.html "Dziennik": Rząd chce już w przyszłym roku otworzyć granice Polski dla tysięcy imigrantów. Mają zrekompensować zapaść demograficzną w naszym kraju. Ale mile widziani będą tylko ci, którzy najbardziej przypominają rdzennych Polaków: Słowianie zza wschodniej granicy. SG I like Poland`s move I mean, nothing (realy not!) against any one of non-Slavic ethnic group but, please human rights includes right that one survive as Pole/Slav/White, to look same or at least similar as his/her ancestors. Japan is also considered to be a `Western Nation`, and I think their policy is pretty similar to this. It is extremely hard to become a Japanese citizen. If you aren't Japanese, you are NOT Japanese. I don't hear about Western liberals bashing Japan but expect that liberals of false west soon start to shouting `fascists Poland`, and demanding that Poland adapts to the ideals of `western democracies`. It is part of their new/old `drang nach osten` just this time behind big words of democracy, human rights and multiculturalism. I will tell to you and to all my Polish brothers and sisters hire. THEY are not democrats; they killed thousands and thousands of Serbs togather with arabic mujaheedines and croatian ustashe. Guess who they are but, THEY aren`t West. God forbid!

truhleiThreads: 14 Posts: 612 Joined: Jul 15, 07	Jul 28, 07, 18:40 / #
Quoting: Crow I will tell to you and to all my Polish brothers and sisters hire. THEY are not democrats; they killed thousands and thousands of Serbs togather with arabic mujaheedines and croatian ustashe. Crow, I'm sure Russia won't confirm Kosovo separation despite the desire of Serbia. That can provoke a chain reaction of separatism all over the world. But I don't think Russia will move longer. At least I'm not interested because West expansion will conduce to the lack of force and Russia will become stronger if concentrates its force within its own territory. Serbia can choose the same way. Don't be crazy! Agree to separate some Kosovo territory! You will be concentrated in the rest of Serbia. You will be stronger. The West will have problems with Albanian Kosovo and it will use you and pay for your friendship. As to today your position, are you able to live among 90% of Alban population? I know Kosovo is very old Serbian region. I know there were few Albanians in past centuries. Even in Albania at the beginning of 19 century the majority were Christians and now only 30%. I know that all. But we have already lost Jerusalem and Constantinopolis. Orthodox people have already lost Rome, London, Paris, and many oter former Orthodox places where many our Saints lived before. We still exist if we are concentrated and strong within our adecuate borders. Admit separation of part of Kosovo. Are any Serbs who also think as I?

blackadderThreads: 4 Posts: 403 Joined: Jun 28, 07	Jul 30, 07, 00:30 / #
Serb slav nazism began around 1900 and flourished in the 1920's after the creation of unstable, multi-ethnic Yugoslavia. Numerous influential Serb writers and academics, notably Vaso Cubrilovic and Radivoje Pesic, proclaimed Serbs racial supermen, and Serbia the true cradle of western civilization. . Serb nazis urged ethnic cleansing of all `racially inferior' Hungarians, Croats, Jews, Albanians, Catholics and Muslims from a purified Greater Serbia, stretching from Italy to the Aegean. Some elements of the Serb Orthodox Church eagerly cooperated - and still do - with these ideas. Mother Theresa, an Albanian from southern Yugoslavia, ended up in Calcutta because her family was driven from its home by Serb nazis in the 192O's during a campaign of ethnic cleansing. Back then, as now, Serb nazis warned of the fertility of non-Serb women, and called for the mass expulsion, extermination or sterilization of `racial inferiors.' The Serb slavo-nazi, Cubrilovic, wrote, `If Germany could deport tens of thousands of Jews, the expulsion of a few hundreds of thousands of Albanians would not lead to a world war.' Interestingly, his remark mirrors Hitler's observation that since the world ignored the genocide of Armenians during World War I, it would react similarly to his planned extermination of Jews. Crow this is THE TRUTH about serbs.don't point finger at others,you have your luggage too,and what a luggage it is. in other hand Crow,perhaps you think that without serbian ''help'',mother theresa wouldn't help all these people in india... are you familiar with this FACTS?

blackadderThreads: 4 Posts: 403 Joined: Jun 28, 07	Jul 30, 07, 00:35 / #
OOPS...I FOUND MORE The first experiments in mass executions of camp inmates by poison gas were carried out in Serbia. Serbia was the first country to proudly declare itself "Judenfrei" ("cleansed" of Jews). In August 1942, Dr. Harald Turner (the chief of the German civil administration in Serbia) announced that Serbia was the only country in which the "Jewish question" was solved and that Belgrade was the "first city of a New Europe to be Judenfrei." Turner himself attributed this success to Serbian help. The fight against the Jewish influence had actually started six months before the German invasion when the government of Serbia issued legislation restricting Jewish participation in the economy and university enrolment. SO I BET SERBIA STILL HAVE LARGE GAS BILL FROM WW2,SINCE SERBS INVENTES GAS CHAMBERS AND HOLOCAUST BEFORE NAZIS.