Another girl murdered in uk

Quoting: wildrover

Please lets not make too much of the fact she was a Polish girl who was killed in Uk , possibly by an English person.....Whats important is that she was a young girl murdered in a strange country a long way from home....She was not killed because she was Polish , she just happened to meet a scumbag who killed her....I made the first posting in the hope it would make Polish girls heading to the UK a liitle bit carefull in a strange city a long way from home , and not to fuel the anti British feelings of some Polish people......I am an English man who was quite happy to have eight Polish people living in my house in UK , most English people i knew were quite happy about Polish people living and working in the UK.....Posting anti British comments on here is not doing any favours for the Poles who are in the UK....Most get on just fine with the Brits , don,t spoil it.......

wildroverThreads: 180 Posts: 8,143 Joined: Jun 7, 07	Edited by: Administrator Oct 25, 07, 16:28 / #
Detectives investigating the death of a 19-year-old woman in a Leeds alleyway said she died in a "brutal" attack. Lidia Aleksandra Motylska was found after police were called to reports of a woman being attacked in the Lincoln Green area on Tuesday evening. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/england/west_yorkshire/7062702.stm 19 year old Lidia aleksandra motylska from Poland who was working in Leeds UK as a waitress was found brutally murdered....As yet nobody has been charged with this crime.....Lidia had only been in the Uk for a few months , and was living there with her mother....I feel such sorrow for her family.....Another young life taken away......You can read about this terrible event by looking at yorshire post newspapers...

osiolThreads: 59 Posts: 4,714 Joined: Jul 25, 07	Oct 25, 07, 16:47 / #
It sounds like a tragic story, but without knowing what happened, all I can say is condolences to her friends and family, and I hope whoever carried out this murder gets caught and punished. May she rest in peace.

tornado2007Threads: 20 Posts: 3,497 Joined: Jul 11, 07	Oct 25, 07, 16:49 / #
I too feel sorry for her family and friends. Every time i hear of a brutal murder i think of question tossed about daily, should we bring back capital punishment, seeing this like this makes me feel 'YES' we should

BubbaWooThreads: 46 Posts: 4,438 Joined: Sep 26, 06	Oct 25, 07, 16:57 / #
tragic RIP

wildroverThreads: 180 Posts: 8,143 Joined: Jun 7, 07	Oct 25, 07, 17:07 / #
It was around 6.30pm in the evening when it happened , perhaps she was on her way home from work....The place where it happened was a dimly lit alleyway , perhaps not the best place for a young woman to be walking alone.....I just wonder if she was from some quiet Polish village where it is probably safe to walk alone in such places , sadly in many cities around the world it just isn,t safe to do this...I am sure the police will soon catch the person responsible , but that won,t bring her back to her family.....Cities are good places to earn money , but they are not always good places to live...This girl like the other girl who was murdred in Leeds was living in one one the less desirable area,s of the city....Unfortunatly many Polish workers end up living in these kind of places because its cheaper , or because they have friends already living there...Leeds was my home for twenty years , and i was lucky to live in a nice area....My small house became home to eight Polish workers that i had to rescue from a dangerous situation in the same area where this girl was killed....Go to the UK girls , make your money , but for gods sake be carefull , come back home in one piece........

telefonitika	Oct 26, 07, 05:11 / #
Thread attached on merging: polish female leeds tragedy Just listened to this via the news on TV Polonia online here is the BBC Leeds link about it http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/west_yorkshire/7062702.stm

ShelleySThreads: 18 Posts: 3,647 Joined: Jun 26, 07	Oct 26, 07, 05:16 / #
My thoughts are with her family and I hope that the guy they have got serves a very long time behind bars!

jareck8	Oct 26, 07, 05:56 / #
this si britian.. what a great place it is..............where there is no respect for humans especailly a young lady who had so much to live for... thats unfair on her, on her family and her community... a life for a life.. but as we knwo the british legal system has idiota there... i think there should be a protest about this,, this is another tragedy involving people from poland and we need to get together and do soemthing about it... once more detaisl fo the case are shown it would be helpful. god bless her and give her a place in his kingdom.. amen

BubbaWooThreads: 46 Posts: 4,438 Joined: Sep 26, 06	Edited by: Moderator Oct 26, 07, 05:58 / #
jareck you really are a pain

AvJoeUK	Oct 26, 07, 06:09 / #
Yeah seriously just pay your Respects and move on Jareck, no-one wants to hear your incoherent rambling.

AvJoeUK	Oct 26, 07, 06:43 / #
Quoting: jareck8 my dear cpaitalistic fredom humaistic brits just trying to make a point just liek you guys.. but i respect your veiws regardless of the content... thats what we are taught inpoland, but in england life is very selfish... i just want to point out that there is a porblem in our society and we should be able to deal with it.. maybe you have not expereinced a young lve one being taken away from you.. you feel helpess and beleive its your fault... but this can change... togehter as one community... sooryy to keep on rambling.. i just feel distrught Now in English, oh and maybe you want a reality check. Murders happen in every country; Oh Wait! whats THIS

BubbaWooThreads: 46 Posts: 4,438 Joined: Sep 26, 06	Oct 26, 07, 07:12 / #
its understandable that you might feel disraught jarek but to suggest the british have no respect for humans is just a tad on the silly side, especially as amnesty international, the world leader in promoting human rights, was founded by brits crime in the uk is an every day occurance and violence frequently plays an unfortunate part of this. it is hardly suprising, given the number of poles that have entered britain in recent years, that some of them experience the impact of crime whilst here, occasionally with tragic results. you would do well to remember that poles, as with all other immigrants, are guests in the uk. whilst polish custom holds that a guest is god in your house this is not the same in the uk . guests, whilst welcome, are expected to behave as such - nobody wants a guest that causes upset, regardless of who they are or where they are from... is there not another polish saying that claims a guest after 3 days begins to smell...?

BubbaWooThreads: 46 Posts: 4,438 Joined: Sep 26, 06	Edited by: BubbaWoo Oct 26, 07, 07:20 / #
Quoting: Yogibear Possibly the most sensible thing I have heard since Martin Luther Kings I had a dream speach. agreed - but nothing that wildrover has written falls outside the confines of everyday common sense... why does it need to be spelt out...? wildrover makes his post... half a dozen brits pay their respect and then some pole comes along and stirs up crap... again...

YogibearThreads: 1 Posts: 63 Joined: Oct 23, 07	Oct 26, 07, 07:52 / #
Quoting: BubbaWoo wildrover makes his post... half a dozen brits pay their respect and then some pole comes along and stirs up crap... again... There's always one bad apple in evry basket.

BubbaWooThreads: 46 Posts: 4,438 Joined: Sep 26, 06	Edited by: Moderator Oct 26, 07, 06:10 / #
thats not quite the meaning i intended you're intened meaning ran the chance of breaking forum rules. It still communicats your displeasure.

jareck8	Oct 26, 07, 06:33 / #
Quoting: AvJoeUK Yeah seriously just pay your Respects and move on Jareck, no-one wants to hear your incoherent rambling. my dear cpaitalistic fredom humaistic brits just trying to make a point just liek you guys.. but i respect your veiws regardless of the content... thats what we are taught inpoland, but in england life is very selfish... i just want to point out that there is a porblem in our society and we should be able to deal with it.. maybe you have not expereinced a young lve one being taken away from you.. you feel helpess and beleive its your fault... but this can change... togehter as one community... sooryy to keep on rambling.. i just feel distrught

sapphireThreads: 28 Posts: 1,418 Joined: Dec 7, 06	Oct 26, 07, 06:54 / #
Quoting: jareck8 this si britian.. what a great place it is..............where there is no respect for humans especailly a young lady who had so much to live for... thats unfair on her, on her family and her community... a life for a life.. but as we knwo the british legal system has idiota there... well anyone who is not happy here can always go home! cos there is no crime anywhere else in the world.. right?

wildroverThreads: 180 Posts: 8,143 Joined: Jun 7, 07	Oct 26, 07, 06:57 / #
Please lets not make too much of the fact she was a Polish girl who was killed in Uk , possibly by an English person.....Whats important is that she was a young girl murdered in a strange country a long way from home....She was not killed because she was Polish , she just happened to meet a scumbag who killed her....I made the first posting in the hope it would make Polish girls heading to the UK a liitle bit carefull in a strange city a long way from home , and not to fuel the anti British feelings of some Polish people......I am an English man who was quite happy to have eight Polish people living in my house in UK , most English people i knew were quite happy about Polish people living and working in the UK.....Posting anti British comments on here is not doing any favours for the Poles who are in the UK....Most get on just fine with the Brits , don,t spoil it.......

YogibearThreads: 1 Posts: 63 Joined: Oct 23, 07	Edited by: Yogibear Oct 26, 07, 07:18 / #
Quoting: wildrover Please lets not make too much of the fact she was a Polish girl who was killed in Uk , possibly by an English person.....Whats important is that she was a young girl murdered in a strange country a long way from home....She was not killed because she was Polish , she just happened to meet a scumbag who killed her....I made the first posting in the hope it would make Polish girls heading to the UK a liitle bit carefull in a strange city a long way from home , and not to fuel the anti British feelings of some Polish people......I am an English man who was quite happy to have eight Polish people living in my house in UK , most English people i knew were quite happy about Polish people living and working in the UK.....Posting anti British comments on here is not doing any favours for the Poles who are in the UK....Most get on just fine with the Brits , don,t spoil it....... Possibly the most sensible thing I have heard since Martin Luther Kings I had a dream speach. :-) Everbody take note of this post. RIP to the young Polish girl.

telefonitika	Oct 26, 07, 07:20 / #
Quoting: wildrover I am an English man who was quite happy to have eight Polish people living in my house in UK , most English people i knew were quite happy about Polish people living and working in the UK.....Posting anti British comments on here is not doing any favours for the Poles who are in the UK....Most get on just fine with the Brits , don,t spoil it....... I would be the same wildrover :)

jareck8	Oct 26, 07, 08:26 / #
Quoting: Yogibear There's always one bad apple in evry basket. is it possible to puchase a basket that does not have bad apples... Quoting: BubbaWoo half a dozen brits pay their respect and then some pole comes along and stirs up crap... again... i would disagree, the britsh have a cultural trait that is distinct tto them and i beleive it is part of their socialisation process.. they are the first to moan and complain at others... but when it comes down to them they become defensivce and turn the tables... this murder is not a polish or russian or british agenda.. its soemthing all of the uk public. regardless of gender, class, religion, occupation, need to address, i apologise if i blamed england, this was not my intention, i only wanted to highlight the immense problems becasue on the one hand it is regarded as the most civiised society and brtian interfers in many other nations business but when there is an issue in brtiiain we do not adress it appropriately.. all i wanna say is lets sjoin forces and make an issue, of evry wrong doing, together we can make it happen, make peace, make harmony, make each other smile. Quoting: wildrover I am an English man who was quite happy to have eight Polish people living in my house in UK be careful what you say the coucil can fine you... the ratio of residents and bedrooms is somehting landlords should be aware of... civil matter

BubbaWooThreads: 46 Posts: 4,438 Joined: Sep 26, 06	Oct 26, 07, 09:07 / #
Quoting: jareck8 all i wanna say is lets sjoin forces and make an issue, of evry wrong doing, together we can make it happen, make peace, make harmony, make each other smile. this is a wonderful idea jarek and its great that as an immigrant you want to contribute positively to all the people of the uk in the uk we have many people working tirelessly in the fight against crime, and in support of those who have suffered at the hands of criminals... if you really want to contribute why not volunteer for victim support or some other organisation

wildroverThreads: 180 Posts: 8,143 Joined: Jun 7, 07	Oct 26, 07, 09:11 / #
Quoting: jareck8 careful what you say the coucil can fine you... This was a tempory measure after i rescued these Poles from a dodgy landlord that had used a gang to commit violence against the Poles.....I managed to find a safe place for half of them....Some of them remained living with me.....The first few days we were a bit crowded out , but they were nice people , i had to help....Before anyone asks.....the dodgy landlord was a Kurd living illegally in UK......

Grzegorz_Threads: 80 Posts: 6,103 Joined: Nov 16, 06	Edited by: Administrator Oct 26, 07, 09:48 / #
wiadomosci.onet.pl/1630863,12,item.html The only suspect left free.

Sammy	Oct 26, 07, 09:54 / #
Quoting: Yogibear .....Posting anti British comments on here is not doing any favours for the Poles who are in the UK....Most get on just fine with the Brits , don,t spoil it....... What about all the english posts which giving bad comments to polish people. I notice that u brits like talk alot about other nations bad things rudness etc when someone pointg u guys u get upset. Maybe its your natural arogancy am I wrong?

Grzegorz_Threads: 80 Posts: 6,103 Joined: Nov 16, 06	Edited by: Grzegorz_ Oct 26, 07, 09:55 / #
Screw them busterds.

BubbaWooThreads: 46 Posts: 4,438 Joined: Sep 26, 06	Oct 26, 07, 09:59 / #
as leaders of the civilised western world we are often mistaken as arrogant. this is understandable and largely we forgive those who accuse us

ShelleySThreads: 18 Posts: 3,647 Joined: Jun 26, 07	Oct 26, 07, 10:00 / #
Quoting: Sammy I notice that u brits like talk alot Blimey, the words pots kettle and black springs to mind here Sammy. Quoting: Sammy arogancy am I wrong? In some ways yes we are arogant - hell whats wrong with that - we didnt get the title Great Britain for being polite to everyone :) Can everyone remembe this is a thread about the death of an inocent girl - who was in the wrong place at the wrong time and I very much doubt her nationality had anything to do with her death.

jareck8	Oct 26, 07, 10:00 / #
Quoting: BubbaWoo leaders of the civilised western world i agree.... not... misconceptions

ShelleySThreads: 18 Posts: 3,647 Joined: Jun 26, 07	Oct 26, 07, 10:05 / #
Quoting: jareck8 misconceptions not at all, just the truth, we are Great :)