Another girl murdered in uk

Quoting: Sammy

What about all the english posts which giving bad comments to polish people. I notice that u brits like talk alot about other nations bad things rudness etc when someone pointg u guys u get upset. Maybe its your natural arogancy am I wrong?

Patrycja19Threads: 76 Posts: 3,877 Joined: Oct 31, 06	Oct 26, 07, 10:06 / #
MY condolences to the family of this girl. but , and there is a but. does anyone see whats happening.. someone is manageing to spread hate over this. who else was killed or murdered that same day? anyone british? scottish? Itialian? black? it just goes to show you how the focus can be only on one thing and cause a major blowout of racism and hate. yes this was tragic.. just as tragic as any other murder that takes place in a city where so many people live crowded .. does anyone know if anyone else died that day from a gun? knife? I am sure that more then one murder occured, but the paper decided those other murders werent front page news... as if there isnt enough to contend with for both Polish and british and they keep adding salt in the wounds over and over again, till both nations just start killing each other.. mass genocide by their own hands.. for once, open up your minds and see the real reasons.. anyone who can perform murder or kill is sick,, and doesnt deserve to live walk this earth. but please people see truth, not media causing hate.. I feel for anyone who lost a loved one that day, its ashame that more of the women arent taking classes of self defense to be able to protect themselfs more in these situations , especially in a country with so much crime going on as of late due to the mass crowding. why isnt anyone teaching self defense classes?? this would be helpful and save lives!! sorry folks this is my heartfelt opinion, no offense to anyone, its frustrating to see this happening.

AvJoeUK	Oct 26, 07, 10:09 / #
Quoting: ShelleyS In some ways yes we are arogant - hell whats wrong with that - we didnt get the title Great Britain for being polite to everyone :) Too bad we bend over backwards for everyone else in the world these days :(

ShelleySThreads: 18 Posts: 3,647 Joined: Jun 26, 07	Oct 26, 07, 10:11 / #
Quoting: AvJoeUK Too bad we bend over backwards for everyone else in the world these days :( yeah well all good things comes to an end - the empire is gone and now we are in danger of being out numbered! Time to pack me bags I think :)

BubbaWooThreads: 46 Posts: 4,438 Joined: Sep 26, 06	Oct 26, 07, 10:13 / #
ive got a polish orphanage that is yours for a little over a fiver - ill throw in ola the peasent cleaner for free

Patrycja19Threads: 76 Posts: 3,877 Joined: Oct 31, 06	Oct 26, 07, 10:16 / #
Quoting: BubbaWoo ive got a polish orphanage that is yours for a little over a fiver - ill throw in ola the peasent cleaner for free what NO jeeves the butler?

jareck8	Oct 26, 07, 10:24 / #
Quoting: Patrycja19 MY condolences to the family of this girl. well said... overcrowding is a key note, but the govt doesnt care they ant to fill their pockets... i think we need to get back to the drawing board and tackle this.. in regards to women doing self defence that is good to give them confidence, the only thing to note is that if there is a confrontation men who usualy dont hit women may becasue they feel they are on the same level... but we should collectively pray for this and any other human being or gods creation who has returned to their rightful owner.. peace and blessings..

MatyjaszThreads: 2 Posts: 1,786 Joined: Jul 20, 06	Oct 26, 07, 10:27 / #
Quoting: Sammy What about all the english posts which giving bad comments to polish people. I notice that u brits like talk alot about other nations bad things rudness etc when someone pointg u guys u get upset. Maybe its your natural arogancy am I wrong? Good point Sammy. As for the poor girl. [']

Patrycja19Threads: 76 Posts: 3,877 Joined: Oct 31, 06	Oct 26, 07, 10:37 / #
Quoting: Matyjasz Good point Sammy. both say things about each other.. its up to the individual to learn respect and just move on.. we all know the media wont go out in public without a good story. so lets stir up the fire.

telefonitika	Oct 26, 07, 10:50 / #
Quoting: ShelleyS Time to pack me bags I think :) I will be doing same in a few years .. not really keen on a nanny state Patrycja19 there probably was some other crimes commited same day against Brit, Irish etc etc here in the UK .. i watched the report on TV Polonia today before reading the news piece on BBC Leeds website Media is responsible at times for causing mass panic in society ... ! Senseless loss of life in my opinion about the young Polish lass :(

jareck8	Oct 26, 07, 10:58 / #
Quoting: telefonitika Media is responsible at times for causing mass panic in society ... ! u can say that again... they have to meet an agenda

Annie-nonimous	Oct 31, 07, 11:42 / #
I think this board is outrageous... I have just popped in to read the views about the brutal unforgiving death of this poor girl, Never mind whether she was Polish, british or a martian,, she was the daughter , the friend and collegue of people who will miss her whole heartedly.. And most of you people find it ammunition to throw at each other about who is from what better country...Grow up the lot of you !!! Try to stick to the original reason why you where reading this post in the first place.. A 19 year old girl has been brutally murdered in a place where she should be able to feel safe...Where another Human being is sick enough to without any kind of thought kill another ...... Does it really matter where the people are from ??....The issue should be Humanity...not race, religion etc...

jareck8	Edited by: Administrator Oct 31, 07, 12:12 / #
the state of the british justice system.. // please provide a small quote and link to the article; not the whole copy-paste of the article. Thanks. Admin

jareck8	Oct 31, 07, 12:18 / #
Quoting: szarlotka Guilty and punished - your problem is? State of British society that has allowed the proliferation of weapons would be a more valid criticism 3 years and 2 years detention... that is disgraceful.. what kind of justice to that poor soul.... and how come she had a gun... and the woman told her son.... what kind of nonsense

Barr_2009Threads: 1 Posts: 280 Joined: Oct 11, 09	Oct 20, 09, 04:20 / #
I hope people blaming the brits for this, saw she was killed by an Iraqi, did they?

Patrycja19Threads: 76 Posts: 3,877 Joined: Oct 31, 06	Oct 26, 07, 11:07 / #
Quoting: telefonitika Media is responsible at times for causing mass panic in society ... ! Senseless loss of life in my opinion about the young Polish lass :( agree totally on the mass panic. and its always news when it causes problems..

wildroverThreads: 180 Posts: 8,143 Joined: Jun 7, 07	Oct 26, 07, 11:46 / #
Here is an idea for the moderators....Why don,t they put all the Brits who hate Poles , and all the Poles who hate brits in one seperate section.That way the rest of us can have a decent adult dialogue without being drawn into pathetic personal insults that lose track of the original post.....They in the meantime can insult each other without having to worry about silly things like good sense and reasoned argument......

AvJoeUK	Oct 31, 07, 11:48 / #
Quoting: Annie-nonimous Thank you for your common sense annie

Patrycja19Threads: 76 Posts: 3,877 Joined: Oct 31, 06	Oct 31, 07, 12:15 / #
Quoting: Annie-nonimous Does it really matter where the people are from ??....The issue should be Humanity...not race, religion etc... annie, some of us have been saying this all along.. but people want to create hate from posts.. if you look carefully, a good portion of people have given condolences.. and that still stands.. this was horrible. and we all feel very saddened by the senseless brutality that exists in our world today.

BubbaWooThreads: 46 Posts: 4,438 Joined: Sep 26, 06	Oct 31, 07, 12:15 / #
whats the average jail term in poland for accidental manslaughter?

szarlotkaThreads: 14 Posts: 3,340 Joined: Feb 20, 07	Oct 31, 07, 12:15 / #
Quoting: jareck8 the state of the british justice system.. Guilty and punished - your problem is? State of British society that has allowed the proliferation of weapons would be a more valid criticism

szarlotkaThreads: 14 Posts: 3,340 Joined: Feb 20, 07	Oct 31, 07, 12:22 / #
Quoting: jareck8 that is disgraceful.. It was manslaughter not murder FFS. It was an accident.

SeanusThreads: 22 Posts: 30,160 Joined: Dec 25, 07	Oct 20, 09, 13:20 / #
As Szarly said, the man was brought to justice. The courts followed the relevant evidential requirements. OK, it was a British conspiracy, was it? Right, let's blame the entire Polish nation for what that weirdo Tomczak did, shall we? How irrational!

KindereggThreads: - Posts: 2 Joined: Oct 16, 09	Edited by: Kinderegg Oct 20, 09, 13:34 / #
Another Pole on trial for murder in Britain. Is this some kind of competition? Can the Poles wipe out more people - or can the Brits? ermatati-rodgers.gonetoosoon.org

SeanusThreads: 22 Posts: 30,160 Joined: Dec 25, 07	Oct 20, 09, 13:58 / #
As long as it doesn't descend into an international farce.

Lodz_The_BoatThreads: 57 Posts: 2,316 Joined: Sep 7, 08	Edited by: Lodz_The_Boat Oct 20, 09, 15:35 / #
tornado2007: should we bring back capital punishment Yes ShelleyS: Great Britain Whats so GREAT about it? Everyone is great if your britian is great...GREAT POLAND!

MareGaeaThreads: 45 Posts: 5,529 Joined: Feb 6, 08	Edited by: MareGaea Oct 20, 09, 15:48 / #
Ppl are murdered every freaking day of the year all over the world. It's nonsense to put up a thread just because one young female got iced and lament over it when you don't even know her personally? Sorry, don't mean to be harsh, but that is just plain sentimental nonsense. While I do feel sorry for the girl, I just don't think it makes sense to stop, think, weep and lament every person that gets killed in the UK or elsewhere in the world. It happens too often, sadly enough. What you want to do about it then? More police officers in the street? What do you think everybody's been crying out for for years now? Right, more police to end the general sense of unsafety. Put more lights in dim areas? Do you really think that's gonna stop the scum harrassing ppl or worse? Oh, and I don't believe ppl who have a job and income are forced to live in slums. Not in the Western world anyway. It's all a matter of choice. They want to take most of their money back to the motherland and don't want to spend anything in the country they live in. It's all about choices, for a few tenners more per month you wouldn't have to live in slums. But I doubt if anybody here sees that logic. However, with this I of course don't condone murder, violence and any other despiccable acts. Edit: there was a time when they lived with 30 ppl in a 3 bedroomed house, paid about 10 Euros per month rent, bought the cheapest of the cheapest cr*p food and didn't go out or anything, just to be able to take as much money pssbl home to the motherland. That's fine with me, but don't pity them and cry out here that the Poles are living in such deplorable situations and blame the West for it. It's their own choice to do so, nobody else's. >^..^< M-G (tiens)

Lodz_The_BoatThreads: 57 Posts: 2,316 Joined: Sep 7, 08	Oct 20, 09, 15:55 / #
MareGaea: What you want to do about it then? Call Hercule Poirot

SeanusThreads: 22 Posts: 30,160 Joined: Dec 25, 07	Oct 20, 09, 16:10 / #
You have Wielkopolska, Łódź. Only one part of Poland is great ;) ;) ;)