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Patrycja19Threads: 76
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  Oct 26, 07, 10:06 /  #
MY condolences to the family of this girl.

but , and there is a but. does anyone see whats happening..

someone is manageing to spread hate over this.

who else was killed or murdered that same day? anyone british? scottish? Itialian?
black?

it just goes to show you how the focus can be only on one thing and cause a
major blowout of racism and hate.

yes this was tragic.. just as tragic as any other murder that takes place in a city
where so many people live crowded .. does anyone know if anyone else died that
day from a gun? knife? I am sure that more then one murder occured, but the
paper decided those other murders werent front page news...

as if there isnt enough to contend with for both Polish and british and they keep
adding salt in the wounds over and over again, till both nations just start killing
each other.. mass genocide by their own hands..

for once, open up your minds and see the real reasons.. anyone who can perform
murder or kill is sick,, and doesnt deserve to live walk this earth. but please people
see truth, not media causing hate..

I feel for anyone who lost a loved one that day, its ashame that more of the women
arent taking classes of self defense to be able to protect themselfs more in these
situations , especially in a country with so much crime going on as of late due to the
mass crowding. why isnt anyone teaching self defense classes?? this would be
helpful and save lives!!

sorry folks this is my heartfelt opinion, no offense to anyone, its frustrating to see
this happening.

AvJoeUK   Oct 26, 07, 10:09 /  #
Quoting: ShelleyS
In some ways yes we are arogant - hell whats wrong with that - we didnt get the title Great Britain for being polite to everyone :)


Too bad we bend over backwards for everyone else in the world these days :(
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  Oct 26, 07, 10:11 /  #
Quoting: AvJoeUK
Too bad we bend over backwards for everyone else in the world these days :(


yeah well all good things comes to an end - the empire is gone and now we are in danger of being out numbered! Time to pack me bags I think :)
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  Oct 26, 07, 10:13 /  #
ive got a polish orphanage that is yours for a little over a fiver - ill throw in ola the peasent cleaner for free
Patrycja19Threads: 76
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  Oct 26, 07, 10:16 /  #
Quoting: BubbaWoo
ive got a polish orphanage that is yours for a little over a fiver - ill throw in ola the peasent cleaner for free


what NO jeeves the butler?
jareck8   Oct 26, 07, 10:24 /  #
Quoting: Patrycja19
MY condolences to the family of this girl.

well said... overcrowding is a key note, but the govt doesnt care they ant to fill their pockets...

i think we need to get back to the drawing board and tackle this..

in regards to women doing self defence that is good to give them confidence, the only thing to note is that if there is a confrontation men who usualy dont hit women may becasue they feel they are on the same level...

but we should collectively pray for this and any other human being or gods creation who has returned to their rightful owner.. peace and blessings..
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  Oct 26, 07, 10:27 /  #
Quoting: Sammy
What about all the english posts which giving bad comments to polish people. I notice that u brits like talk alot about other nations bad things rudness etc when someone pointg u guys u get upset. Maybe its your natural arogancy am I wrong?



Good point Sammy.

As for the poor girl. [']
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  Oct 26, 07, 10:37 /  #
Quoting: Matyjasz
Good point Sammy.


both say things about each other.. its up to the individual to learn respect and just
move on..

we all know the media wont go out in public without a good story. so lets stir up
the fire.
telefonitika   Oct 26, 07, 10:50 /  #
Quoting: ShelleyS
Time to pack me bags I think :)


I will be doing same in a few years .. not really keen on a nanny state

Patrycja19 there probably was some other crimes commited same day against Brit, Irish etc etc here in the UK .. i watched the report on TV Polonia today before reading the news piece on BBC Leeds website

Media is responsible at times for causing mass panic in society ... !

Senseless loss of life in my opinion about the young Polish lass :(
jareck8   Oct 26, 07, 10:58 /  #
Quoting: telefonitika
Media is responsible at times for causing mass panic in society ... !

u can say that again... they have to meet an agenda
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  Oct 26, 07, 11:07 /  #
Quoting: telefonitika
Media is responsible at times for causing mass panic in society ... !

Senseless loss of life in my opinion about the young Polish lass :(


agree totally on the mass panic. and its always news when it causes problems..
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  Oct 26, 07, 11:46 /  #
Here is an idea for the moderators....Why don,t they put all the Brits who hate Poles , and all the Poles who hate brits in one seperate section.That way the rest of us can have a decent adult dialogue without being drawn into pathetic personal insults that lose track of the original post.....They in the meantime can insult each other without having to worry about silly things like good sense and reasoned argument......
Annie-nonimous   Oct 31, 07, 11:42 /  #
I think this board is outrageous...
I have just popped in to read the views about the brutal unforgiving death of this poor girl, Never mind whether she was Polish, british or a martian,, she was the daughter , the friend and collegue of people who will miss her whole heartedly..
And most of you people find it ammunition to throw at each other about who is from what better country...Grow up the lot of you !!!

Try to stick to the original reason why you where reading this post in the first place..
A 19 year old girl has been brutally murdered in a place where she should be able to feel safe...Where another Human being is sick enough to without any kind of thought kill another ......
Does it really matter where the people are from ??....The issue should be Humanity...not race, religion etc...
AvJoeUK   Oct 31, 07, 11:48 /  #
Quoting: Annie-nonimous


Thank you for your common sense annie
jareck8 Edited by: Administrator   Oct 31, 07, 12:12 /  #
the state of the british justice system..

// please provide a small quote and link to the article; not the whole copy-paste of the article. Thanks. Admin
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  Oct 31, 07, 12:15 /  #
Quoting: Annie-nonimous
Does it really matter where the people are from ??....The issue should be Humanity...not race, religion etc...


annie,

some of us have been saying this all along.. but people want to create hate from
posts..

if you look carefully, a good portion of people have given condolences.. and that
still stands.. this was horrible. and we all feel very saddened by the senseless
brutality that exists in our world today.
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  Oct 31, 07, 12:15 /  #
whats the average jail term in poland for accidental manslaughter?
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  Oct 31, 07, 12:15 /  #
Quoting: jareck8
the state of the british justice system..


Guilty and punished - your problem is?

State of British society that has allowed the proliferation of weapons would be a more valid criticism
jareck8   Oct 31, 07, 12:18 /  #
Quoting: szarlotka
Guilty and punished - your problem is?

State of British society that has allowed the proliferation of weapons would be a more valid criticism

3 years and 2 years detention... that is disgraceful.. what kind of justice to that poor soul.... and how come she had a gun... and the woman told her son.... what kind of nonsense
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  Oct 31, 07, 12:22 /  #
Quoting: jareck8
that is disgraceful..


It was manslaughter not murder FFS. It was an accident.
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  Oct 20, 09, 04:20 /  #
I hope people blaming the brits for this, saw she was killed by an Iraqi, did they?
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  Oct 20, 09, 13:20 /  #
As Szarly said, the man was brought to justice. The courts followed the relevant evidential requirements.

OK, it was a British conspiracy, was it? Right, let's blame the entire Polish nation for what that weirdo Tomczak did, shall we? How irrational!
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Edited by: Kinderegg   Oct 20, 09, 13:34 /  #
Another Pole on trial for murder in Britain. Is this some kind of competition? Can the Poles wipe out more people - or can the Brits?
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  Oct 20, 09, 13:58 /  #
As long as it doesn't descend into an international farce.
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Edited by: Lodz_The_Boat   Oct 20, 09, 15:35 /  #
tornado2007:
should we bring back capital punishment

Yes
ShelleyS:
Great Britain

Whats so GREAT about it?

Everyone is great if your britian is great...GREAT POLAND!
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Edited by: MareGaea   Oct 20, 09, 15:48 /  #
Ppl are murdered every freaking day of the year all over the world. It's nonsense to put up a thread just because one young female got iced and lament over it when you don't even know her personally? Sorry, don't mean to be harsh, but that is just plain sentimental nonsense.
While I do feel sorry for the girl, I just don't think it makes sense to stop, think, weep and lament every person that gets killed in the UK or elsewhere in the world. It happens too often, sadly enough. What you want to do about it then? More police officers in the street? What do you think everybody's been crying out for for years now? Right, more police to end the general sense of unsafety. Put more lights in dim areas? Do you really think that's gonna stop the scum harrassing ppl or worse?

Oh, and I don't believe ppl who have a job and income are forced to live in slums. Not in the Western world anyway. It's all a matter of choice. They want to take most of their money back to the motherland and don't want to spend anything in the country they live in. It's all about choices, for a few tenners more per month you wouldn't have to live in slums. But I doubt if anybody here sees that logic. However, with this I of course don't condone murder, violence and any other despiccable acts.

Edit: there was a time when they lived with 30 ppl in a 3 bedroomed house, paid about 10 Euros per month rent, bought the cheapest of the cheapest cr*p food and didn't go out or anything, just to be able to take as much money pssbl home to the motherland. That's fine with me, but don't pity them and cry out here that the Poles are living in such deplorable situations and blame the West for it. It's their own choice to do so, nobody else's.

>^..^<

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  Oct 20, 09, 15:55 /  #
MareGaea:
What you want to do about it then?

Call Hercule Poirot
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  Oct 20, 09, 16:10 /  #
You have Wielkopolska, £ód¼. Only one part of Poland is great ;) ;) ;)

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