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Catholic church experience for Poles in England



niwkaThreads: 1
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Im doing my dissertation on the increase in Catholic church attendence in England, specifically the North-East since the increase in Polish migration here. Any thoughts on the difference in praticising catholicism in the UK to that in Poland would be appreciated. Do you go to church the same amount as you did in poland? what differences do you notice? what do you go to mass for? any thoughts on the subject will be gratefully received!
postieThreads: 9
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I'm a total athiest... and today, I went for a smoke break while at a kids "play-zone" ... and it overlooked the only Catholic church in my town.

First smoke break was with my mate, i mentioned that the church nearby was Catholic.. he siad not to mention it to his missus...

2nd smoke break.. i wnt out with his missus, I didn't mention it.

But.,.. I'll ask.. next week when I see them ( I work out of town all week, so only see them at weekends now)
EurolaThreads: 6
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niwka wrote:
what do you go to mass for?


to pray for lost souls in this world and to check out the men. I like the 2nd part better.
(btw, I'm not really religious) :)
MichalThreads: -
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The Polish is England will become less and less religious as they earn and make more and more money. I never go to church in England or in Poland for that matter. A total wast of time if you ask me. In Poland religion does more for the rich vicars than the congregation on the whole. Big new flashy cars and girl friends in the countryside. Hopefully as the population becomes more and better educated, the church and its hold will diminish. In the rural areas of Poland there are still a lot of very uneducated people.
davidpeakeThreads: 18
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michal,
Michal wrote:
In the rural areas of Poland there are still a lot of very uneducated people.


thats not very nice
BubbaWooThreads: 46
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davidpeake wrote:
thats not very nice


but undeniably true - just like rural areas the world over
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yes i know..
krysiaThreads: 26
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My aunt was a nun in London and we always went to church and I always checked out the organs. The Westminister Abby has the coolest pipe organ. I always wanted to touch them....
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i used to sneak in some wine and bread when i was an alter boy..
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krysia wrote:
The Westminister Abby has the coolest pipe organ. I always wanted to touch them....


why dont you draw us a picture of westminister abbey's huge organ being played with by a nun...
krysiaThreads: 26
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BubbaWoo wrote:
why dont you draw us a picture of westminister abbey's huge organ being played with by a nun...

hehehe...that's funny..
I always look around at church. Some sculptures are awesome, the frescos and stained glass is beautiful, the architecture which could be classical or venetian depending on when the church was erected. And of course you look around at people. In Europe they dress up for church more than they do in the US.
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religious architecture can be awsome. my cuz wrote his doctoral thesis on the relationship between religious and military architecture, in particular, military insignia in religious architecture in britain, which was very interesting, but of very little use to the vast majority and probably a waste of tax payers money

oh well
sapphireThreads: 28
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Im not Polish but my partner is and we regularly attend Catholic church in London. I have noted a huge increase in both Polish speaking churches and also masses and other specific services being conducted in Polish, especially over the Lent period. Sorry I dont have stats. thats just my observation. I reckon the Poles are swelling the numbers of the UK churches. However, I'm sure there are also those who may choose not to attend once away from their families.. guess its all up to the individual. I cant speak for difference in types of services as Ive not yet been to church in Poland, but I understand that there are some significant differences.
krysiaThreads: 26
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When I went to church in London after mass they served coffee, tea and biscuits. Never came across that in Poland.
MichalThreads: -
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krysia wrote:
ass they served coffee, tea and biscuits. Never came across that in Poland.

Where do you think Polish vicars get the money to buy their brand new B.M.W.s from? They are not going to waste money on tea and biscuits.
polski_zydThreads: 2
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Michal wrote:
Where do you think Polish vicars get the money to buy their brand new B.M.W.s from? They are not going to waste money on tea and biscuits.


They didn't buy the BMW or the tea & biscuits. They stole them. Because the Poles are all thieves, right? Unlike the honest Russians, of course...

Michal wrote:
opefully as the population becomes more and better educated, the church and its hold will diminish


After which, we all know which religion will take over. Poland beware! Don't become like the UK!
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polski_zyd wrote:
After which, we all know which religion will take over. Poland beware! Don't become like the UK!

I dont know..please enlighten me as to which religion will take over and why it is you want to come to the UK if you dislike it so much.
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polski_zyd wrote:
hey stole them. Because the Poles are all thieves, right? Unlike the honest Russians, of course...

I think on the whole, the Russians are definitely more honest but i do remember all the help Poland showed towards the Soviet Union, sometimes even giving ships to Russia for free after their construction in Gdansk. I am sure these acts of Polish kindness will never be forgotten in Russia and the mutual respect each country has for one another will continue for a long time to come.
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Russians more honest? Heh that made me laugh out loud.
MichalThreads: -
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I think that they are less two faced than the Poles. The Russians are not so friendly but at least you know more or less what you are getting with them.
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Michal wrote:
The Russians are not so friendly but at least you know more or less what you are getting with them.

A bullet in your head, sooner or later?
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