The difference in family life England and Poland.

blinker:

could anyone tell me the differences between unmarried couples in poland and couples in england? In Poland does the father of children if he has not been named on birth certificate have any rights over what happens to the children ? Can he take the children on holiday ? both mother and father of children live together in poland but mother advised father it was better if they accepted a one off payment when the first child was born as it would be much wors financially if the father registered himself on certificate he is self employed and therefore does not work for a company. is it possible to have his name put on the children's birth certificates now even though the oldest is nearly 3 and the youngest is 1 year old ?

blinkerThreads: 1 Posts: 3 Joined: Aug 1, 09	Aug 1, 09, 17:50 / #
could anyone tell me the differences between unmarried couples in poland and couples in england? In Poland does the father of children if he has not been named on birth certificate have any rights over what happens to the children ? Can he take the children on holiday ? both mother and father of children live together in poland but mother advised father it was better if they accepted a one off payment when the first child was born as it would be much wors financially if the father registered himself on certificate he is self employed and therefore does not work for a company. is it possible to have his name put on the children's birth certificates now even though the oldest is nearly 3 and the youngest is 1 year old ?

ShelleySThreads: 18 Posts: 3,647 Joined: Jun 26, 07	Aug 1, 09, 17:56 / #
blinker: could anyone tell me the differences between unmarried couples in poland and couples in england? In Poland does the father of children if he has not been named on birth certificate have any rights over what happens to the children ? Can he take the children on holiday ? both mother and father of children live together in poland but mother advised father it was better if they accepted a one off payment when the first child was born as it would be much wors financially if the father registered himself on certificate he is self employed and therefore does not work for a company. is it possible to have his name put on the children's birth certificates now even though the oldest is nearly 3 and the youngest is 1 year old ? You mean mother was claiming benefits! As for putting his name on the birth cert. I very much doubt it, a child has to be registered within weeks in the UK I imagine its the same in Poland. What a pittyful thing to do for money, to have "father unknown" on your childs birth cert.!

PierogiThreads: - Posts: 64 Joined: Aug 1, 09	Aug 1, 09, 19:50 / #
ShelleyS: You mean mother was claiming benefits! As for putting his name on the birth cert. I very much doubt it, a child has to be registered within weeks in the UK I imagine its the same in Poland. What a pittyful thing to do for money, to have "father unknown" on your childs birth cert.! Sickening. Looks like nowhere is safe from chav culture these days.

blinkerThreads: 1 Posts: 3 Joined: Aug 1, 09	Aug 1, 09, 22:05 / #
nobody claiming benefits, father supporting family totally on his own. needed to know information due to mother being akward and father now realising he has been too trusting by beleiving what mother told him they are living in poland, and he was not familiar with procedures, think legal brain may be needed if there is one out there.

ShelleySThreads: 18 Posts: 3,647 Joined: Jun 26, 07	Aug 2, 09, 14:06 / #
blinker: nobody claiming benefits, father supporting family totally on his own. needed to know information due to mother being akward and father now realising he has been too trusting by beleiving what mother told him they are living in poland, and he was not familiar with procedures, think legal brain may be needed if there is one out there. Well, I dont understand where the money thing comes in then. Sounds like mother has an agenda. As for him going on birth cert....he has no chance other than to legally "adopt" the children or thats how it would work in the UK. He has very little in the way of rights. Pierogi: Sickening. Looks like nowhere is safe from chav culture these days. Well, I don't know an awful lot about Poland's chav life (ive been fortunately to meet nice Polish people), but I very much doubt they are as bad as the scummy chavy parasites we have here! Give it time though!

WroclawThreads: 77 Posts: 7,404 Joined: Apr 1, 06 [Moderator]	Aug 2, 09, 15:05 / #
I'm not sure that I understand. If the father is not named then he is not the father. As soon as he says he is the father... he becomes legally responsible. If he is not the father then he can't take the children on holiday without permission. If he is the father then he can play awkward games too. For example, he could block a passport application. This all seems odd. Are you sure he is the father ? I feel I have to ask.

blinkerThreads: 1 Posts: 3 Joined: Aug 1, 09	Aug 2, 09, 19:19 / #
yes he is definitely the father, but was told by the mother of their children that it would cause problems because they are not married but his name was put on certificate. Do u know if there is any legal way he can put this right ? r u Polish ? Does a Polish passport have the name of mother and father on it ? Wouldhe have to get permission from the mother to take the children on holiday to England ? Is there any legal office he could go to for information about this ?

WroclawThreads: 77 Posts: 7,404 Joined: Apr 1, 06 [Moderator]	Aug 2, 09, 20:02 / #
blinker: Does a Polish passport have the name of mother and father on it ? No it doesn't. But of course the legal parent/parents must fill in the application document blinker: Would he have to get permission from the mother to take the children on holiday to England ? If he does not have permission it could lead to serious difficulties. blinker: Do u know if there is any legal way he can put this right ? All I know is that if he is paying child support and claims to be the father... then basically he is the father. But he'll need a lawyer to make it legal. blinker: Is there any legal office he could go to for information about this ? Sorry, I don't know. You'll have to do a wider internet search for an answer. The main point is that it doesn't matter if he is the father or if the children have a passport. The children cannot leave Poland without the mother's permission.

blinkerThreads: 1 Posts: 3 Joined: Aug 1, 09	Aug 2, 09, 20:18 / #
thanks for that i will carry on trying to sort things out. By the way is there any family allowance in Poland ? the father of the children loves Poland and will carry on paying all the bills of the household, he loves his children and is there for them, but i do understand that he will have to go legal to get this sorted out.