Exploiting Polish Workers by the UK businesses

blaze:

My friend was sacked in the end for no reason. He just left and expected to go find a new job which is very hard now. I asked him if he realises being sacked for no reason is completely illegal and he didn't even realise.

blaze:

If you are polish and working in the UK, you have the exact same rights as everyone else.

Juche:

if you thinks thats bad, how about how Polish are treated by Polish employers in Poland, where the govt coudnt care less. for example not paying for compulsory overtime, and the legendary story of how women cashi9ers at a supermarket chain were given pampers so as not to waste productivity for going on bathroom breaks...

blazeThreads: 1 Posts: 1 Joined: Aug 31, 09	Aug 31, 09, 16:21 / #
It makes me angry how polish are treated here in the UK by businesses. The government may treat them well but when it comes to working, it's a whole different story. My polish friends sometimes work for UNDER MINIMUM WAGE which is illegal! I wish the polish could learn the laws of employment here in the UK as they are treated like crap. My friend was sacked in the end for no reason. He just left and expected to go find a new job which is very hard now. I asked him if he realises being sacked for no reason is completely illegal and he didn't even realise. You can screw these companys over for tens of thousands of pounds if they mistreat you, and quite right too! If you are polish and working in the UK, you have the exact same rights as everyone else. I suggest you know those rights so nobody tries anything just because you are foreign. Visit: etasdirect.com/faq_employment_law.php

JucheThreads: 13 Posts: 356 Joined: Feb 17, 09	Edited by: Juche Aug 31, 09, 16:24 / #
if you thinks thats bad, how about how Polish are treated by Polish employers in Poland, where the govt coudnt care less. for example not paying for compulsory overtime, and the legendary story of how women cashi9ers at a supermarket chain were given pampers so as not to waste productivity for going on bathroom breaks...

OsiedleRuda	Edited by: OsiedleRuda Aug 31, 09, 16:51 / #
blaze: My friend was sacked in the end for no reason. He just left and expected to go find a new job which is very hard now. I asked him if he realises being sacked for no reason is completely illegal and he didn't even realise. There probably was a reason; in any case, I'm sure the employer could find one if they needed to. blaze: If you are polish and working in the UK, you have the exact same rights as everyone else. True. British workers are unlikely to win an unfair dismissal case if they have not worked for their employer for more than 12 months, so stop whining - things are just as bad for many British workers. But at least Polish workers have the option of "going home" if they don't like it - we're stuck here! Juche: if you thinks thats bad, how about how Polish are treated by Polish employers in Poland, where the govt coudnt care less. for example not paying for compulsory overtime, and the legendary story of how women cashi9ers at a supermarket chain were given pampers so as not to waste productivity for going on bathroom breaks... Exactly! :)

Mister HThreads: 11 Posts: 845 Joined: Jan 4, 08	Aug 31, 09, 18:51 / #
blaze: It makes me angry how polish are treated here in the UK by businesses. The government may treat them well but when it comes to working, it's a whole different story. My polish friends sometimes work for UNDER MINIMUM WAGE which is illegal! Apart from what happened to your friends, do you have any real information to back up what you are saying ? Did your friends read what they were signing when they signed their employment contracts ? Often people get ripped off because they have left themselves vulnerable to being ripped off. I'm not saying it is right, but you have to be wise before event rather than whinge about it afterwards. There will always be someone ready and waiting to rip you off if you let them, whether you're Polish, British or anything else. You have to be able to see them coming.

MrBubblesThreads: 13 Posts: 768 Joined: Nov 13, 07	Aug 31, 09, 19:18 / #
blaze: I wish the polish could learn the laws of employment here in the UK as they are treated like crap. What goes around comes around. They do just the same in Poland

NoimmigThreads: - Posts: 13 Joined: Aug 16, 09	Sep 1, 09, 00:20 / #
Slavs are nothing like we western europeans. They simply do not deserve the same rights as us.

SeanBMThreads: 41 Posts: 8,726 Joined: Mar 10, 08	Sep 1, 09, 00:22 / #
Noimmig: Slavs are nothing like we western europeans. They simply do not deserve the same rights as us. Are you trying to say they are harder workers and deserve more rights??? ;)

ShawnHThreads: 9 Posts: 3,056 Joined: Jul 2, 09	Sep 1, 09, 00:24 / #
SeanBM: Are you trying to say they are harder workers and deserve more rights??? I tried to wiki the subject, but I couldn't find references to the hierarchy he was speaking of.

SeanBMThreads: 41 Posts: 8,726 Joined: Mar 10, 08	Edited by: SeanBM Sep 1, 09, 00:26 / #
ShawnH: I tried to wiki the subject, but I couldn't find references to the hierarchy he was speaking of. well of course that was my first and only reference place, as you know, oh you did know that hahahahahaha :) Noimmig: Nope, I am saying they are inferior eastern europeans. Bringing in people from inferior countries and cultures degrades this country. Link please hahahahaha bed i calling :)

peter_olsztynThreads: 8 Posts: 760 Joined: Apr 18, 07	Sep 1, 09, 21:15 / #
Noimmig: Nope, I am saying they are inferior eastern europeans. Bringing in people from inferior countries and cultures degrades this country. This guy with scythe considers they are equal ;)

RevokeNiceThreads: 21 Posts: 2,765 Joined: Jun 20, 09	Sep 2, 09, 17:51 / #
mvefa: We are all equal, any race, any religion, any gender, any sexual orientation, any believe. Thats bollocks. Prove it. You forgot to mention all cultures are equal too. Go back and read your multiculti bible. As for the OP, if you have proof that workers are being underpaid, go to the relevant authorities. I do not know the system in the UK, so I cannot advise you.

mvefaThreads: 11 Posts: 972 Joined: Jul 21, 09	Sep 2, 09, 18:18 / #
RevokeNice: You forgot to mention all cultures are equal too. geez i forgot one, thanks for reminding me ;) But you got my message right? i'm glad i can touch at least one heart...

RevokeNiceThreads: 21 Posts: 2,765 Joined: Jun 20, 09	Sep 2, 09, 18:31 / #
mvefa So, some mud hut dwelling tribe in sub saharan Africas culture is on par with French culture?

mvefaThreads: 11 Posts: 972 Joined: Jul 21, 09	Edited by: mvefa Sep 2, 09, 18:46 / #
RevokeNice: some mud hut dwelling tribe in sub saharan Africas culture is on par with French culture? habits, customs, does it matter? A french man, drinks wine, eats fine cuisine, ( but a wife-beater) A sub-saharan man, drinks water (if he has it), eats raw meat, (also a wife-beater) Which one is worse??

Mister HThreads: 11 Posts: 845 Joined: Jan 4, 08	Sep 1, 09, 21:58 / #
Noimmig: Slavs are nothing like we western europeans. They simply do not deserve the same rights as us. Oh good lawd ! Looks who's back !

mvefaThreads: 11 Posts: 972 Joined: Jul 21, 09	Sep 2, 09, 15:53 / #
Noimmig: Slavs are nothing like we western europeans. They simply do not deserve the same rights as us. Noimmig: Nope, I am saying they are inferior eastern europeans. Bringing in people from inferior countries and cultures degrades this country. Pff, Inferior your a.r.s.e, they are all the same as us, the fact that they were held back by communism for some time does not make them inferior. We are all equal, any race, any religion, any gender, any sexual orientation, any believe. When are we gonna understand this? when are we gonna leave our medieval past behind? WHEN?

RevokeNiceThreads: 21 Posts: 2,765 Joined: Jun 20, 09	Sep 2, 09, 18:51 / #
Both scum. A french man, drinks wine, eats fine cuisine, ( works hard but only has one child as that is all he can afford to provide for) A sub-saharan man, drinks water (if he has it), eats raw meat, (no source of income but has 9 children) Which culture is better?

mvefaThreads: 11 Posts: 972 Joined: Jul 21, 09	Sep 2, 09, 18:55 / #
RevokeNice: Both scum. You get my point, scum is scum, no matter what nationality they are... There is no better culture but different, the fact that the western culture developed mighty empires (due to certain facts in history) helped them spread their ideals, ideas, religion, culture, in other words, westernized the world (for good or bad i dont know) So we take that as a standard of good and proper. It would be the same if the chinese or japanesses would have ruled over the world. You would be thinking now that the western culture is backwards. This is relative.

blazeThreads: 1 Posts: 1 Joined: Aug 31, 09	Sep 7, 09, 19:13 / #
Right now there is reasonable peace in comparison to 500 years ago. But let's look forward.

RevokeNiceThreads: 21 Posts: 2,765 Joined: Jun 20, 09	Sep 8, 09, 00:18 / #
blaze: Right now there is reasonable peace in comparison to 500 years ago. But let's look forward. Yes, lets all look forward to the EU susperstate. http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/sep/07/us-german-afghan-rift Remind me again, I am meant to feel some common bond with all these European Colonial adventurists, I am meant to feel European with all the brutal history of invasion murder colonialism that goes with it? Well sorry but I do not. I am proud to be from a country with no history of colonising, invading or attacking anywhere else. You can stick your "solidarity" up for your hole. The krauts should be tried for war crimes.

MareGaeaThreads: 45 Posts: 5,527 Joined: Feb 6, 08	Sep 8, 09, 00:27 / #
RevokeNice: Well sorry but I do not. I am proud to be from a country with no history of colonising, invading or attacking anywhere else. Well, that's only because you have been colonized yourself. There is no way of telling if Ireland wouldn't have done the same were it independent all that time. M-G (Germany 17% vote, Ireland 0.8% vote - and it should be like that: they paid more than Ireland, hence should have a bigger say. Also they have nearly 20 times as many ppl)

RevokeNiceThreads: 21 Posts: 2,765 Joined: Jun 20, 09	Sep 8, 09, 00:31 / #
MareGaea: Well, that's only because you have been colonized yourself. There is no way of telling if Ireland wouldn't have done the same were it independent all that time. It still does not take away from my point, we never colonised any country. It is a simple fact. If my auntie had balls she would be my uncle. MareGaea: Germany 17% vote, Ireland 0.8% vote - and it should be like that: they paid more than Ireland, hence should have a bigger say. Also they have nearly 20 times as many ppl Two tiered E.U? :)

SeanBMThreads: 41 Posts: 8,726 Joined: Mar 10, 08	Edited by: SeanBM Sep 8, 09, 00:39 / #
RevokeNice: A french man, drinks wine, eats fine cuisine, ( works hard but only has one child as that is all he can afford to provide for) A sub-saharan man, drinks water (if he has it), eats raw meat, (no source of income but has 9 children) Which culture is better? An English man, drinks ale, has many fine musicians, ( works hard but only has one child as that is all he can afford to provide for) An Irish man, drinks water (if he has it), eats raw meat, (no source of income but has 9 children) Which culture is better?

RevokeNiceThreads: 21 Posts: 2,765 Joined: Jun 20, 09	Sep 8, 09, 00:40 / #
SeanBM: An Irish man, drinks water (if he has it), eats raw meat, (no source of income but has 9 children) You are some tool.

MareGaeaThreads: 45 Posts: 5,527 Joined: Feb 6, 08	Edited by: MareGaea Sep 8, 09, 00:43 / #
RevokeNice: It still does not take away from my point, we never colonised any country. When a prisoner who has been in jail for 10 years says: "hey, but I didn't commit a crime in those 10 years", does this make him a good man? Don't think so. You never colonized any country (although it were Irish priest who went to christen Europe, I would say that's also a form of colonization, but heck) because you never got the chance. Only when you have the chance and don't do it, then you can rightfully say that you're proud of not having done so. Not saying that you cannot be proud now, but it's a different pride. A pride for being barred from the opportunity. There's a difference there. RevokeNice: Two tiered E.U? :) Don't know, it's what I see on some of the boards that hang on the lampposts throughout the city. A fairer EU means equal rights for everybody, however I do support the idea that those who have invested more than others should have a bigger say. And we all know which countries those are. SeanBM: An English man, drinks ale, has many fine musicians, ( works hard but only has one child as that is all he can afford to provide for) An Irish man, drinks water (if he has it), eats raw meat, (no source of income but has 9 children) Which culture is better? LOL M-G (going to sleep)

MareGaeaThreads: 45 Posts: 5,527 Joined: Feb 6, 08	Sep 8, 09, 00:58 / #
SeanBM: What makes you say that? That's what I hear grosso modo from my Irish friends. Of course it's not gonna happen, but yet I sense this growing dissatisfaction among ppl who were pretty much in favor of the EU before. Maybe it's just the influx of foreigners which is going extremely fast, where as we (and I take my home country as example as I cannot speak for other countries) got decades and decades to get used to foreigners coming in and taking their place within our society. Maybe they just need to get used to the new circumstances. M-G (is really off to bed now)

BritishEmpireThreads: - Posts: 195 Joined: Apr 26, 09	Sep 8, 09, 15:11 / #
There is no need for the EU, a simple set of trade agreements would be enough. We dont need political union, for all those that think it will work then i suggest you take a look at the ussr which had a similar system and we all know what happened there. As for polish workers being mistreated so what, people from all races are mistreated every day in the uk, thats life but at the end of the day if you cant stand the heat get out of the kitchen. We have enough issues to resolve with our own people to care about a group of people that have come here to work.

mvefaThreads: 11 Posts: 972 Joined: Jul 21, 09	Sep 8, 09, 15:16 / #
BritishEmpire: As for polish workers being mistreated so what, people from all races are mistreated every day in the uk, thats life but at the end of the day if you cant stand the heat get out of the kitchen. We have enough issues to resolve with our own people to care about a group of people that have come here to work. That's rather primitive thinking, the fact that people comes to your country, does not mean they do not have any rights. If they come legally to work, and they are accepted in your country, guess what, they are your problem and you will have to punish the criminals who take advantage of them. Criminals are not excused by only being local.

BritishEmpireThreads: - Posts: 195 Joined: Apr 26, 09	Sep 8, 09, 15:35 / #
mvefa: That's rather primitive thinking, the fact that people comes to your country, does not mean they do not have any rights. If they come legally to work, and they are accepted in your country, guess what, they are your problem and you will have to punish the criminals who take advantage of them. They are only accepted by the government and business, if you ask the population if they wanted them to come then you would find that the overwhelming majority dont want them here. So guess what they are not my problem because they are not from my country, they have a choice, shut up or pack up. We could go on all day about the problems that polish workers encounter in and out of work, they are not liked its as simple as that, from having problems renting a flat to being dismissed from they're job over something that is trivial is proof that they are shown little respected because people dont like them. Iam not interested in the subject of if its right or wrong as i cant change the minds of millions of people.